Read my post. Calling foul is bogus. The break is how play commences. It is the refs function to assure everything is in spec before the first shot. Was the ref even equipped with the means to prove the pinpoint location of the ball? It seems all he had was the notion the ball was out of place and without having established that, there is no call possible on the break.
Premier League Pool (PLP) 6-13 March2023, Leicester- Earl makes his debut !
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Alex has to win one more match than Naoyuki to get into the semifinals and since they don’t play each other…it has a true Premier League feeling where they will be playing the last two matches on different tables AT THE SAME TIME watching each other to see who progresses. DRAMAA
Does every single push have to be into a tough jump shot? This is boredom itself and it's painful to watch. Once upon a time, devising a pushout required great imagination in both nine ball and ten ball.
For the many who want to litigate luck from our game, is there any shot that involves more luck than the missed jump shot, in which it is rare that the shooter has any idea where either the cue ball or object ball is going? It's just amazing how many unintended safeties arise from the missed jump shot.
Rotation pool would be a far better game if use of the jump cue was disallowed on the shot immediately following the push out.
For the many who want to litigate luck from our game, is there any shot that involves more luck than the missed jump shot, in which it is rare that the shooter has any idea where either the cue ball or object ball is going? It's just amazing how many unintended safeties arise from the missed jump shot.
Rotation pool would be a far better game if use of the jump cue was disallowed on the shot immediately following the push out.
of course it is his notion that is the basis of the call. as with all referees and umpires. calling foul is his job, not preventing it.
Except in this instance the condition for the foul has to be clearly established.
The ref places the rack, sets the balls; in snooker, places a half dozen other balls individually. In billiards all balls are positioned by the referee. There are no stricter requirements to start a game than those. If the cue ball is detected outside of the box or D or break spot, the ref must interrupt and establish the error otherwise the entire rule is purposeless and void.
it should be disallowed completely.
the conditions for fouls are established at the players meeting, not at the table. and for the snooker analogy, if ronnie o'sullivan would put the cue ball outside the D, the ref would let him shoot, then call foul.
I'm not 100% sure of how the rankings get determined, and since both Alex and Oi now have the same number of wins, does this mean that Oi is ahead in a tiebreaker involving games won (as opposed to matches)?
This wasn't case of <outside> the box.
It's frustrating to see a lot of the players looking really uninterested at times -this coming from players that are or were very much in it. Do they have some legitimate gripes with the event? Hard to make a marketable product when you've got players acting that way.
Would you prefer safeties need to be called and any safety that results from a missed shot (good hit, no safety called), can be passed back to the original shooter?
Just curious. I've seen the game played both ways.
The market for jump cues is so large, we will not get the sponsors to promote rule changes that cut into their sales imo.
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Close. It goes first by matches won (so 16 for both of them) then the tiebreaker is total racks differential (won - lost). It’s slightly different than using only the total won since your opponents racks won matter as well. So it’s possible that a 5-0 blowout in the first day is what breaks the tie. You could say this is what keeps people striving for better throughout the seven days.
An example: (5-0, 5-4, 3-5) for three matches is (+5, +1, -2) for a final differential of +4.
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I wish I could find out when the next matches were scheduled to start. The website simply says "Not before 5:30PM (UK Time)".
Yes, and that is about 13 minutes from now.
YukonCornelius
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AH, Ok. I was an hour off from GMT. Thank you, AtLarge. Appreciate it.
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It seems strange that Matchroom can post up an "upcoming" video that starts in 20hrs but no "upcoming" vid for the PLP live matches that are about to start. Sometimes they do it and sometimes they don't. 
I think Alex Lely is a very good commentator and very knowledgeable coach. He said after one shot where the player had to do a slow stun to get position “much easier to do with the black shaft(meaning carbon”. How is that so, I didn’t think the carbon shafts made an improvement in your play that way?
I agree that the the jump cue is a bastardization of the game. However, I feel that the real problem is inherent in the push out rule to begin with.
If I break the balls and successfully make a ball why am I punished by having to push out. Everybody knows that when you are the pusher you are taking the worst of it. The problem is I haven't thought of a solution to this problem.