preserving autograph on cue
- Thread starter Q-Street
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yes, it willQ-Street said:
i did a cue that sarah rousey signed for guy
i was concerned that the ink may bleed, especilly since i didn't know what kind of pen/ink it was
i mixed my clear without any reducer, just sprayed it straight for the first couple coats to seal the ink, then went with my normal mix after that
it worked in that instance
the cue i'm talking about was pretty beat up, so it needed to be refinished anyway
sanding around the autograph,
before clearcoated was a pain in the rump :smile:
Q-Street said:
I have sealed them using super Glue, without any problem. To do this you have to apply the super glue like you would use it for finish. Three or four coats, and it is ready to finish sand and buff out. I have done this more than twenty times with no problems to date. One thing that I can say is super seems to adhere to and blend into every type of finish I have every seen.
Take care
hey craig, have you ever run into a situation where the super glue was much much more shinier than the existing finish on the cue?manwon said:
i did a little patch job on a cue for a friend
the super glue stood out so much more,
that i ended up redoing the whole cue
BHQ said:
Was the finish You were patching epoxy or UV by any chance? If so it can show a difference and doesn't always buff out with the same shine.
I've used CA to fill chipouts in Buttsleeves, and It usually worked out well.I did have one cue that was stained red, and It had really lightened up in the spots where the chips were, so I had to touch the color up before filling them, but in the end You couldn't even tell the work had been done. I've Had To do similar when replacing broken buttcaps that caused chipping around the bottom end of the sleeves. It works, but probably wouldn't blend with every finish out there.
To answer the poster's question, It depends some autographs will wipe away easily, so the best bet would probably be to spray over.
If I wanted to save an autograph correctly, I would probably want to lightly sand the area of the finish to be signed with at least 600 grit to help It adhere some, then have It signed, and spray over to lock It in, but what often happens is someone just brings you a cue that has been signed over a buffed out finish and wants it preserved. If It had been waxed then that only creates more issues to deal with.
I had one person that had the same cue signed 2 or 3 times because every time before they could get the cue to me, the autograph ended up getting wiped out By someone's hand. That one was done in sharpie I believe.
If I wanted to save an autograph correctly, I would probably want to lightly sand the area of the finish to be signed with at least 600 grit to help It adhere some, then have It signed, and spray over to lock It in, but what often happens is someone just brings you a cue that has been signed over a buffed out finish and wants it preserved. If It had been waxed then that only creates more issues to deal with.
I had one person that had the same cue signed 2 or 3 times because every time before they could get the cue to me, the autograph ended up getting wiped out By someone's hand. That one was done in sharpie I believe.
How is the super glue applied?
Others apparently have but I've never had success nor any trust in Super glue for anything other than putting on tips and the only reason that I use it there is because it is quick and if it fails it is an easy repair. I've tried it for a finish and it cracked and grazed later. I tried it as a sealer and found many finishes later failed as they never made a good bond to it and they would lift. I used it once to seal a decal on a Predator shaft and it caused the black decal to fade and almost disappear. I seal my cues normally with an epoxy that I spray on, I then coat with a U.V. finish, sand, clean with Prep and then sign cue and put on an automotive finish. When a cue is brought in with the signature already on a glossy finished cue you are put in a real conundrum as the cue is dirty, oily and actually to slick for a finish to be applied. In this case I clean as close as possible to the signature and spray on an auto finish and advise them to put up the cue and handle it as little as possible.
Dick
Dick
rhncue said:
I will agree Dick Super Glue can be very tough to use for some people. Many people have all the problems you have mention, however, once the suface preparation technique, finish application and polishing is mastered it is pretty simple to apply. I will certainly admit it took me some time to figure out my own techniques, but now I have none of the problems you have identified.
Craig
Unless the signature is from a water based pen I do not see the acrylic hurting the signature. However to be sure spray a couple mist/dry coats on before you hit it with a good wet coat. I don't know if acrylic will stick to a uv or urathan finish either. If I am understanding correctly you do not have a signature yet.
If I wanted to have a signature preserved:
I would first clean the cue with a prep chemical and then sand with 1500 grit. Take a little bottle of prep with you and before they sign wipe the cue down and let dry. Sign and put the cue someplace where it will stay free of oil bring back to the shop and start with a couple mist coats over the sig let flash and start shooting.
If I wanted to have a signature preserved:
I would first clean the cue with a prep chemical and then sand with 1500 grit. Take a little bottle of prep with you and before they sign wipe the cue down and let dry. Sign and put the cue someplace where it will stay free of oil bring back to the shop and start with a couple mist coats over the sig let flash and start shooting.
Q-Street said:
1. Figure out who made the cue
2. Figure out what type of finish was used.
3. Send the cue to that cue maker or someone that can use a finish compatible with the original finish.
That's what I would do. If not, you run a risk of finish failure where it is signed.
check your pm's bud
Q-Street said:
Someone else here may know better then I, but you may have a problem with the finish on that cue (Mcdermott). If I remember correctly the finish they use is hard to buff out with some compounds. I have been able to buff them, but only one compound that I had would even work at all, and It was not easy. Even prepping the area for the signature could possibly turn into a nightmare on You.
Greg
I just had my nephew's cue signed by Mike Massey tonight, and he used a sharpie. I made the cue, and used a super glue finish on it when it was made. Should I light sand the cue (except the signature area) and hit it with spray clear, or finish it again with the super glue?
