PRO ONE DVD: Answering Questions

PoolSharkAllen said:
Perhaps you and Spidey and other CTE/Pro1 proponents could engage in a scientific experiment in comparing the "easiness and exactness" of using CTE/Pro1 against another aiming system?

Here's the drill I'm proposing that we compare systems with:
On a regulation sized table, put the 1-ball on the foot spot. Place the cue ball on the head string about 5 inches from the right rail. Now attempt to pocket the ball. After 10 attempts, tally up your score. Repeat exercise but this time place the cue ball on the head string about 5 inches from the left rail. After 10 attempts, tally up your score. No cheating! :wink:

If Dr. Dave (or anyone else) could perform the same exercise above using whatever aiming system he wishes, we might then have a basis for comparing the "easyness and exactness" of different aiming systems.

I'm sure that other posters can think of other ways to test different aiming systems. I think it's about time we make an attempt to pit one aiming system against another...and see which one is really better.
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If you guys can come up with a definitive test, I'd love to pit my CTE technique against Dr. Dave's "DAM."

Set it up.
 
dr_dave said:
Thank you. I am happy to stay involved in meaningful discussion concerning the CTE approach and Stan's version in particular.

One thing I still hope will be discussed more is the position of the vision center during the entire process.

It seems like Stan suggests the vision center should start along the center-to-edge line (CTEL). But it seems unclear whether or not one should shift while sighting the CB-edge to OB-point line (i.e., the sighting line or SL). Also, should the vision center remain over the CTEL or SL (or some other line) when the cue tip is placed 1/2-tip off center? And where should the vision center be during and after the pivot? It would seem to me that you might want the vision center over the cue (and not the CTEL or SL) after the pivot so you can verify if the aim looks good or not (e.g., to make sure you didn't use the wrong sighting or pivot), and to make sure the cue tip is on the vertical center-line of the CB (so you don't get unintentional English, squirt, swerve, and throw).

Obviously, the key to the entire process is where you actually place your bridge hand on the table. This totally dictates the final aiming line of the cue (after the pivot). And it seems to me that the location of the eyes, and how you drop and slide into your stance and form your bridge can have a big impact here.

I think these are important questions, because how you perceive the CTEL, SL, cue direction, tip position, and bridge placement relative to the CB can be influenced by where your eyes are. Also, where you place the bridge hand is critical. Your sighting and alignment can be perfect, but if you place the bridge hand in the wrong place (slightly left or right of where it should be), the aim will be off.

Regards,
Dave
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Care to explain why you edited Stan's section of your site yesterday with a nice review and removed the details of his DVD just to replace it back to the way it was today? You even had "at the request of Stan" in the title - but now all of that is gone and it's the way it was.

I wasn't the only one who saw it--- so I'm just curious as to why you did that?
 
SpiderWebComm said:
dr_dave said:
Thank you. I am happy to stay involved in meaningful discussion concerning the CTE approach and Stan's version in particular.

One thing I still hope will be discussed more is the position of the vision center during the entire process.

It seems like Stan suggests the vision center should start along the center-to-edge line (CTEL). But it seems unclear whether or not one should shift while sighting the CB-edge to OB-point line (i.e., the sighting line or SL). Also, should the vision center remain over the CTEL or SL (or some other line) when the cue tip is placed 1/2-tip off center? And where should the vision center be during and after the pivot? It would seem to me that you might want the vision center over the cue (and not the CTEL or SL) after the pivot so you can verify if the aim looks good or not (e.g., to make sure you didn't use the wrong sighting or pivot), and to make sure the cue tip is on the vertical center-line of the CB (so you don't get unintentional English, squirt, swerve, and throw).

Obviously, the key to the entire process is where you actually place your bridge hand on the table. This totally dictates the final aiming line of the cue (after the pivot). And it seems to me that the location of the eyes, and how you drop and slide into your stance and form your bridge can have a big impact here.

I think these are important questions, because how you perceive the CTEL, SL, cue direction, tip position, and bridge placement relative to the CB can be influenced by where your eyes are. Also, where you place the bridge hand is critical. Your sighting and alignment can be perfect, but if you place the bridge hand in the wrong place (slightly left or right of where it should be), the aim will be off.
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Care to explain why you edited Stan's section of your site yesterday with a nice review and removed the details of his DVD just to replace it back to the way it was today? You even had "at the request of Stan" in the title - but now all of that is gone and it's the way it was.
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Spidey,

I honestly don't have a clue what you are talking about. I have never removed my summary, interpretation, and "review" of Stan's method.

I think the only things I did to my website yesterday was add a link to Stan's DVD, allow a direct link to my summary and interpretation of Stan's version of CTE, and add a brief description of what I think Pro One is. I also corrected the error I had with the bridge length changes at the bottom of my summary.

Are you trying to make some sort of joke or point I am too dense to see?

Regards,
Dave
 
dr_dave said:
Spidey,

I honestly don't have a clue what you are talking about. I have never removed my summary, interpretation, and "review" of Stan's method.

I think the only things I did to my website yesterday was add a link to Stan's DVD and allow a direct link to my summary and interpretation of Stan's version of CTE. I also corrected the error I had with the bridge length changes at the bottom of my summary.

Are you trying to make some sort of joke or point I am too dense to see?

Regards,
Dave
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That's what I thought and couldn't figure out...

Maybe you do get credit for the greatest Jedi Mind Trick of All Time :-)

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
dr_dave said:
Spidey,

I honestly don't have a clue what you are talking about. I have never removed my summary, interpretation, and "review" of Stan's method.

I think the only things I did to my website yesterday was add a link to Stan's DVD, allow a direct link to my summary and interpretation of Stan's version of CTE, and add a brief description of what I think Pro One is. I also corrected the error I had with the bridge length changes at the bottom of my summary.

Are you trying to make some sort of joke or point I am too dense to see?
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That's what I thought and couldn't figure out...

Maybe you do get credit for the greatest Jedi Mind Trick of All Time :-)
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I guess I need to be more careful with my "Jedi Vulcan-Salute Peace-Sign Spell." It is even more powerful than I thought! I just align my fingers, visualize my victim (from any sighting direction), and pivot my hand, and all sorts of magical stuff happens. DAM! :grin-square:

Regards,
Dave
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
I think you guys are trying to find the correct line instead of relying on the system to do so. When you have the correct visual, flip your eyes down to the CB and slide directly into the visual face of the CB with your tip offset. Pivot to center and the ball goes in the hole. If the ball doesn't go in the hole, you're not sighting your visual accurately enough.
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I never used CTE/PRO-ONE before the DVD come out!! I was a contact point to contact point shooter.. I worked at it for about eight to ten hours a day. Frustration set in at the beginning but I kept working at it!! I eventually started getting close!! I was pocketing balls more than ever but not quite center pocket all of the time(nothing like that sound of hitting the back of the pocket)! When I felt I was close I phoned Stan and with one call he locked me in!! As Dave has mentioned time and time again it's about your perception..You have to concentrate on center cueball!! Left and/or right of center.. For those of you with the DVD, try setting up Steve's 4-way shot and look at the visuals from 31/21!! See how slight the visual is from one shot to the next!! Hopefully this helps!! If not please phone Stan! He will be more than willing to help!!
 
pablocruz said:
I never used CTE/PRO-ONE before the DVD come out!! I was a contact point to contact point shooter.. I worked at it for about eight to ten hours a day. Frustration set in at the beginning but I kept working at it!! I eventually started getting close!! I was pocketing balls more than ever but not quite center pocket all of the time(nothing like that sound of hitting the back of the pocket)! When I felt I was close I phoned Stan and with one call he locked me in!! As Dave has mentioned time and time again it's about your perception..You have to concentrate on center cueball!! Left and/or right of center.. For those of you with the DVD, try setting up Steve's 4-way shot and look at the visuals from 31/21!! See how slight the visual is from one shot to the next!! Hopefully this helps!! If not please phone Stan! He will be more than willing to help!!
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i see that as a 5 way shot but have not tried it to see if the 5th is a scratch.
 
dr_dave said:
Thank you. I am happy to stay involved in meaningful discussion concerning the CTE approach and Stan's version in particular.

One thing I still hope will be discussed more is the position of the vision center during the entire process.

It seems like Stan suggests the vision center should start along the center-to-edge line (CTEL). But it seems unclear whether or not one should shift while sighting the CB-edge to OB-point line (i.e., the sighting line or SL). Also, should the vision center remain over the CTEL or SL (or some other line) when the cue tip is placed 1/2-tip off center? And where should the vision center be during and after the pivot? It would seem to me that you might want the vision center over the cue (and not the CTEL or SL) after the pivot so you can verify if the aim looks good or not (e.g., to make sure you didn't use the wrong sighting or pivot), and to make sure the cue tip is on the vertical center-line of the CB (so you don't get unintentional English, squirt, swerve, and throw).

Obviously, the key to the entire process is where you actually place your bridge hand on the table. This totally dictates the final aiming line of the cue (after the pivot). And it seems to me that the location of the eyes, and how you drop and slide into your stance and form your bridge can have a big impact here.

I think these are important questions, because how you perceive the CTEL, SL, cue direction, tip position, and bridge placement relative to the CB can be influenced by where your eyes are. Also, where you place the bridge hand is critical. Your sighting and alignment can be perfect, but if you place the bridge hand in the wrong place (slightly left or right of where it should be), the aim will be off.

Regards,
Dave
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It seems like Stan suggests the vision center should start along the center-to-edge line (CTEL). But it seems unclear whether or not one should shift while sighting the CB-edge to OB-point line (i.e., the sighting line or SL).

As I am walking over to shot I do a quick compute with the brain as to which pivot L/R and what aim point I need to use, then I get myself in position using the ctel, I then use the aim line to adjust myself (adjust my body L or R) for the angle of my cut. My focus now goes back to the ctel and I drop down, pivot and shoot.


Also, should the vision center remain over the CTEL or SL (or some other line) when the cue tip is placed 1/2-tip off center? And where should the vision center be during and after the pivot?

My vision remains on the ctel when im in the 1/2-tip off center position and I will give a quick check on the aim line while holding my 1/2-tip off center position and then pivot if feels right to me. After the pivot im pretty much just looking at what I think will be the contact point on the ob, mostly.

It would seem to me that you might want the vision center over the cue (and not the CTEL or SL) after the pivot so you can verify if the aim looks good or not (e.g., to make sure you didn't use the wrong sighting or pivot), and to make sure the cue tip is on the vertical center-line of the CB (so you don't get unintentional English, squirt, swerve, and throw).

I do this and agree.

Obviously, the key to the entire process is where you actually place your bridge hand on the table. This totally dictates the final aiming line of the cue (after the pivot). And it seems to me that the location of the eyes, and how you drop and slide into your stance and form your bridge can have a big impact here.

For me the ctel tells me where to place my bridge on the table after what i wrote in the above first part.

I think these are important questions, because how you perceive the CTEL, SL, cue direction, tip position, and bridge placement relative to the CB can be influenced by where your eyes are. Also, where you place the bridge hand is critical. Your sighting and alignment can be perfect, but if you place the bridge hand in the wrong place (slightly left or right of where it should be), the aim will be off.

Where you place the bridge hand is critical, wrong placement and you miss the shot. This is why I think the ctel is so important and the aim line is just a body adjustment line. i kinda see this system as your body,cue and vision as one movement into the ball, hard for me to explain it lol

this is how i see it and do anyway.
 
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Originally Posted by dr_dave
Thank you. I am happy to stay involved in meaningful discussion concerning the CTE approach and Stan's version in particular.

One thing I still hope will be discussed more is the position of the vision center during the entire process.

It seems like Stan suggests the vision center should start along the center-to-edge line (CTEL). But it seems unclear whether or not one should shift while sighting the CB-edge to OB-point line (i.e., the sighting line or SL). Also, should the vision center remain over the CTEL or SL (or some other line) when the cue tip is placed 1/2-tip off center? And where should the vision center be during and after the pivot? It would seem to me that you might want the vision center over the cue (and not the CTEL or SL) after the pivot so you can verify if the aim looks good or not (e.g., to make sure you didn't use the wrong sighting or pivot), and to make sure the cue tip is on the vertical center-line of the CB (so you don't get unintentional English, squirt, swerve, and throw).

Obviously, the key to the entire process is where you actually place your bridge hand on the table. This totally dictates the final aiming line of the cue (after the pivot). And it seems to me that the location of the eyes, and how you drop and slide into your stance and form your bridge can have a big impact here.

I think these are important questions, because how you perceive the CTEL, SL, cue direction, tip position, and bridge placement relative to the CB can be influenced by where your eyes are. Also, where you place the bridge hand is critical. Your sighting and alignment can be perfect, but if you place the bridge hand in the wrong place (slightly left or right of where it should be), the aim will be off.

Regards,
Dave


cookie man said:
You may think the dvd is unclear, but I however think it is very clear and all of the questions you pose are answered. You make a big deal about the bridge hand and Stan clearly covers this.
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Cookie man, you seem like a straight shooter. If you truly can answer Dr. Dave's questions, please do so. Surely you, and others in your camp, would like to see ProOne vindicated - that is how you can do it. Your reply,which I've quoted here, provides absoultely no useful information.
 
shankster8 said:
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Originally Posted by dr_dave
Thank you. I am happy to stay involved in meaningful discussion concerning the CTE approach and Stan's version in particular.

One thing I still hope will be discussed more is the position of the vision center during the entire process.

It seems like Stan suggests the vision center should start along the center-to-edge line (CTEL). But it seems unclear whether or not one should shift while sighting the CB-edge to OB-point line (i.e., the sighting line or SL). Also, should the vision center remain over the CTEL or SL (or some other line) when the cue tip is placed 1/2-tip off center? And where should the vision center be during and after the pivot? It would seem to me that you might want the vision center over the cue (and not the CTEL or SL) after the pivot so you can verify if the aim looks good or not (e.g., to make sure you didn't use the wrong sighting or pivot), and to make sure the cue tip is on the vertical center-line of the CB (so you don't get unintentional English, squirt, swerve, and throw).

Obviously, the key to the entire process is where you actually place your bridge hand on the table. This totally dictates the final aiming line of the cue (after the pivot). And it seems to me that the location of the eyes, and how you drop and slide into your stance and form your bridge can have a big impact here.

I think these are important questions, because how you perceive the CTEL, SL, cue direction, tip position, and bridge placement relative to the CB can be influenced by where your eyes are. Also, where you place the bridge hand is critical. Your sighting and alignment can be perfect, but if you place the bridge hand in the wrong place (slightly left or right of where it should be), the aim will be off.

Regards,
Dave






Cookie man, you seem like a straight shooter. If you truly can answer Dr. Dave's questions, please do so. Surely you, and others in your camp, would like to see ProOne vindicated - that is how you can do it. Your reply,which I've quoted here, provides absoultely no useful information.
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If I really thought DR. Dave was interested I would. If your interested and bought the dvd call Stan.
 
I will make a brief statement to this quote by Dr. Dave
"but if you place the bridge hand in the wrong place (slightly left or right of where it should be), the aim will be off."
If I am correct and since I watched and listened to Stan very intently. Stan said that you should not just put your bridge hand down , but slide it to the position.
Placing your hand arbitrarily anywhere in the wrong place the aim will be off. This is true.
If you move in toward the shot , sliding your bridge hand down before the CB you should be in correct position.
Remember this is a visual system.
You must be able to perceive center and edges
Also must have a good reasonable straight stroke.
These are some of Stan's quotes
Sorry after 22 pages of this thread..guess I just joined the sewing circle.
So ...with that said.....TASTE GREAT....LESS FILLING !!!!
 
Thank you for your answers. I will be curious to see if others agree.

Regards,
Dave

champ2107 said:
It seems like Stan suggests the vision center should start along the center-to-edge line (CTEL). But it seems unclear whether or not one should shift while sighting the CB-edge to OB-point line (i.e., the sighting line or SL).

As I am walking over to shot I do a quick compute with the brain as to which pivot L/R and what aim point I need to use, then I get myself in position using the ctel, I then use the aim line to adjust myself (adjust my body L or R) for the angle of my cut. My focus now goes back to the ctel and I drop down, pivot and shoot.


Also, should the vision center remain over the CTEL or SL (or some other line) when the cue tip is placed 1/2-tip off center? And where should the vision center be during and after the pivot?

My vision remains on the ctel when im in the 1/2-tip off center position and I will give a quick check on the aim line while holding my 1/2-tip off center position and then pivot if feels right to me. After the pivot im pretty much just looking at what I think will be the contact point on the ob, mostly.

It would seem to me that you might want the vision center over the cue (and not the CTEL or SL) after the pivot so you can verify if the aim looks good or not (e.g., to make sure you didn't use the wrong sighting or pivot), and to make sure the cue tip is on the vertical center-line of the CB (so you don't get unintentional English, squirt, swerve, and throw).

I do this and agree.

Obviously, the key to the entire process is where you actually place your bridge hand on the table. This totally dictates the final aiming line of the cue (after the pivot). And it seems to me that the location of the eyes, and how you drop and slide into your stance and form your bridge can have a big impact here.

For me the ctel tells me where to place my bridge on the table after what i wrote in the above first part.

I think these are important questions, because how you perceive the CTEL, SL, cue direction, tip position, and bridge placement relative to the CB can be influenced by where your eyes are. Also, where you place the bridge hand is critical. Your sighting and alignment can be perfect, but if you place the bridge hand in the wrong place (slightly left or right of where it should be), the aim will be off.

Where you place the bridge hand is critical, wrong placement and you miss the shot. This is why I think the ctel is so important and the aim line is just a body adjustment line. i kinda see this system as your body,cue and vision as one movement into the ball, hard for me to explain it lol

this is how i see it and do anyway.
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dr_dave said:
Thank you for your answers. I will be curious to see if others agree.

Regards,
Dave
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Maybe you ought to call Stan if you have any questions about the video instead of reveling in a shit pool of ignorance? I'm lost as to how anyone could have questions with that video because it's so thorough, but if you did--- Stan offered to answer questions via the phone.

Care to comment why you wouldn't call him for a REAL answer versus prolonging these internet fights? You're not afraid to call him are you?

Dave
 
Falcon Eddie said:
I will make a brief statement to this quote by Dr. Dave
"but if you place the bridge hand in the wrong place (slightly left or right of where it should be), the aim will be off."
If I am correct and since I watched and listened to Stan very intently. Stan said that you should not just put your bridge hand down , but slide it to the position.
Placing your hand arbitrarily anywhere in the wrong place the aim will be off. This is true.
If you move in toward the shot , sliding your bridge hand down before the CB you should be in correct position.
Remember this is a visual system.
You must be able to perceive center and edges
Also must have a good reasonable straight stroke.
These are some of Stan's quotes
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The point I was trying to make (in the full context of my post) is that the way you "slide" can change the outcome quite a bit, especially if you aren't willing or able to make slight corrections after the pivot.

What wasn't clear to me after watching the DVD several times is where the vision center should be during the slide. Also, it wasn't totally clear if the slide should be guided more by the sighting line (SL) or the center-to-edge line (CTEL). Stan says you should be able to "see" both lines from the same eye position, but I don't buy this. Stan also seems to demonstrate a slight shift, which I assume is to align the vision center away from the CTEL and along the SL, but I'm not sure.

Obviously, the location of the vision center and the exact direction of the slide are critically important to where the bridge hand will end up.

Thanks for your comments,
Dave
 
dr_dave said:
The point I was trying to make (in the full context of my post) is that the way you "slide" can change the outcome quite a bit, especially if you aren't willing or able to make slight corrections after the pivot.

Thanks for your comments,
Dave
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You're wrong. There are two ways you place your hand on the table (only two). You can drop your hand down to the cloth or you can slide your hand into position. Dropping your hand is random for the most part while sliding your hand into final position allows the players to align the hand more accurately. I believe it was Tom Simpson who refers to this as a helicopter landing versus an airplane landing.

The slide has the LEAST variation between the two.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Maybe you ought to call Stan if you have any questions about the video instead of reveling in a shit pool of ignorance? I'm lost as to how anyone could have questions with that video because it's so thorough, but if you did--- Stan offered to answer questions via the phone.

Care to comment why you wouldn't call him for a REAL answer versus prolonging these internet fights? You're not afraid to call him are you?
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I would prefer if Stan would answer the questions here. That way, everybody can benefit ... not just me.

I'd also rather have a written answer that is well thought out. Phone conversations can take a very long time, and don't always lead to clear answers. Putting something is writing and offering it publicly takes skill and courage, but I think it is appropriate here. Many people have the same questions and want to read clear and simple answers. "Just buy the DVD, keep on watching it, and keep calling Stan until you get it" isn't very good advice, IMO.

I thought the purpose for this thread was for Stan and others to answer questions about topics on the DVD that are unclear.

Spidey, you obviously take great offense to all of my posts in this thread. I don't know why you take it so personally. I'm just trying to help create better understanding. If you don't want to share what you know, that's fine, but why do you feel like you need to keep hurling insults at me (e.g., "shit pool of ignorance")?

Regards,
Dave
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
There are two ways you place your hand on the table (only two). You can drop your hand down to the cloth or you can slide your hand into position. Dropping your hand is random for the most part while sliding your hand into final position allows the players to align the hand more accurately. I believe it was Tom Simpson who refers to this as a helicopter landing versus an airplane landing.

The slide has the LEAST variation between the two.
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I agree that this is excellent advice. However, your body alignment, vision center position, and line-of-slide focus are all important during this process.

Where is your vision center, and what line (the CTEL or SL or something else) do you focus on during the "slide?"

Thanks,
Dave
 
dr_dave said:
I would prefer if Stan would answer the questions here. That way, everybody can know the answers ... not just me.

I'd also rather have a written answer that is well thought out. Phone conversations can take a very long time, and don't always lead to clear answers. Putting something is writing and offering it publicly takes skill and courage, but I think it is appropriate here. Many people have the same questions and want to read clear and simple answers. "Just buy the DVD, keep on watching it, and keep calling Stan until you get it" isn't very good advice, IMO.

I thought the purpose of this thread was for Stan and others to answer questions about topics on the DVD that are not clear.Spidey, you obviously take great offense to all of my posts in this thread. I don't know why you take it so personally. I'm just trying to help create better understanding. If you don't want to share what you know, that's fine, but why do you feel like you need to keep hurling insults at me (e.g., "shit pool of ignorance")?

Regards,
Dave
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Dr. Dave,

You do indeed need to go back and read the original purpose of this thread. The one and only one reason for this thread was for Stan to advise you that he would answer questions one on one over the phone. Now others may have changed that purpose but for you to say that it was for Stan and others to answer questions on AZ is just absolutely false. Sorry you have been working with the wrong assumptions.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Maybe you ought to call Stan if you have any questions about the video instead of reveling in a shit pool of ignorance? I'm lost as to how anyone could have questions with that video because it's so thorough, but if you did--- Stan offered to answer questions via the phone.

Care to comment why you wouldn't call him for a REAL answer versus prolonging these internet fights? You're not afraid to call him are you?

Dave
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I agree with you here,Spider. At this point it would be a good idea for Dr. Dave to call Stan. I honestly think we're closing in on resolution now that Dr. Dave has provided a table which de-mystifies a large part of ProOne.

If Dave can also provide an accurate interpretation of Stan's instructions regarding eye position, I think the ProOne DVD might become a generally usable tool. At present, IMO, Stan's language concerning eye position is nebulous. For example, when he says to shift sight from the CTEL to the SL, while still keeping sight of the CTEL (my words). Does that involve an actual repositioning of the head? IMO, details like this are necessary to transform the ProOne jigsaw puzzle into a systematic procedure.

Remember, this DVD was supposed to make ProOne like cookbook procedure.
 
Murdoch7627 said:
Dr. Dave,

You do indeed need to go back and read the original purpose of this thread. The one and only one reason for this thread was for Stan to advise you that he would answer questions one on one over the phone. Now others may have changed that purpose but for you to say that it was for Stan and others to answer questions on AZ is just absolutely false. Sorry you have been working with the wrong assumptions.
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Good point. I had not read the first post in a long time. You are right ... it does seem like Stan is willing to answer questions only by phone. And it is my impression that people who get answers are vowed to secrecy (i.e., they are not allowed to share what they know with anybody else). I hope Stan will reconsider, because AZB is a place to share ideas and information and learn from each other, IMO. That's why I'm here ... to both share and learn.

The original post also states: Stan absolutely wants his students to understand and be satisfied with his pool instruction
I assume this also applies to the DVD.

I still hope he and others will still consider clearing up some of the questions that have been brought up in the thread.

Regards,
Dave
 
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