Pro Players That Teach charge 2 much

Johnnyt

Johnnyt

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If I was a pro that just earned his/her living from pool, I believe I would just charge about $30 to $40 an hour for lessons to new to "B+" players... they pay the time. I believe the pro charges too much for the lessons for a game 98% will never make a living on. Most people that want to get better for league, fun, and play in non-major tournaments are turned off by $75 to $200 an hour. I believe they would get more people for lessons and get way more of them coming back for more lessons.

Spend some of their down time to market themselves for lessons instead of barking at air and looking for a stakehorse for a $200 set. Johnnyt
 
Most people will never play golf for a living but lessons in my area range from $75-$200 and this is from teaching professionals not tour pro's.

I recently had my car worked on and the average going rate for labor was between $90-130 per hour.

So as long as the professional is competent at teaching I don't see their rates as being that far out of line.
 
Shenanigans said:
Most people will never play golf for a living but lessons in my area range from $75-$200 and this is from teaching professionals not tour pro's.

I recently had my car worked on and the average going rate for labor was between $90-130 per hour.

So as long as the professional is competent at teaching I don't see their rates as being that far out of line.
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You don't see a lot of people flocking to them either. Most of the ones that pay $100 or more for 1 hour never go back. The ones I've met that brag about all the lessons they've taken from top pros, still can't play worth a darn. Throwing top pro names around won't make you play even a ball better.

Lower prices mean more lessons=more players getting better, having more fun, more playing in tournaments, and life long prayers. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
If I was a pro that just earned his/her living from pool, I believe I would just charge about $30 to $40 an hour for lessons to new to "B+" players... they pay the time. I believe the pro charges too much for the lessons for a game 98% will never make a living on. Most people that want to get better for league, fun, and play in non-major tournaments are turned off by $75 to $200 an hour. I believe they would get more people for lessons and get way more of them coming back for more lessons.

Spend some of their down time to market themselves for lessons instead of barking at air and looking for a stakehorse for a $200 set. Johnnyt
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https://youtu.be/M-S7V_ZgBrw?t=882
 
I personally think those rates are pretty high too, but its the pros right to choose their pricing and their business model, and the students right to decide whether they want to pay. Maybe the pros prefer less clients at higher pricing, i.e, less hours invested toward teaching, who knows...

If I were a pro, I'd charge less like the op suggests too, as long as I'm not hopping flights to get to the student.
 
If people were not willing to pay $200 then the professionals wouldn't charge it. Your post is aimed at the teachers, but I strongly believe it is the people who pay X amount that you should take issue with. And at the end of the day, it's their money so they can do what they want with it.
You can't put a price on improving your game. Some would pay $1000 to improve from C+ to a B, others wouldn't pay $10 for that because they understand they play for fun... And whilst beating more plays and winning is fun to some, to others the social aspect and getting away from the wife is just as fun.
I remember my dad paying Steve Davis to give me a few hours of lessons when I was a kid. I can't remember the cost but it won't have been cheap. When I got home he asked me what I learned. I said I learned that his favourite colour was blue, he liked my cue and he has made hundreds of 147s in his life. He went crazy saying I wasted my time with him. I didnt. I bombarded him with question after question about his life. We spent hardly any time at the table. I was more interested in talking with my hero as a child that I didn't care about the other stuff. This is also why people pay through the roof prices for pro lessons. It's a chance to hang out with your hero and someone you have nothing but respect for. That is priceless.
 
the idea that there is value from a top pro at crazy rates is insane

you don't need Michael Jordan to teach you basketball

some pros get this, some don't

some amateur players get this, some don't

Karen corr charges more than Efren, Dennis, Shane, Earl, and many others

her choice, to each his own

I can get world class instruction from any number of wold champs for $30-40 hourly max, I spent half a day with Ray Martin once for a hundy,

there are many sports and games and hobbies where world champs cannot command much for instruction, it is what it is, too many people see the millions earned by a very select few in the few big money sports out there and think the world follows suit
 
Karen Corr

smashmouth said:
the idea that there is value from a top pro at crazy rates is insane

you don't need Michael Jordan to teach you basketball

some pros get this, some don't

some amateur players get this, some don't

Karen corr charges more than Efren, Dennis, Shane, Earl, and many others

her choice, to each his own

I can get world class instruction from any number of wold champs for $30-40 hourly max, I spent half a day with Ray Martin once for a hundy,

there are many sports and games and hobbies where world champs cannot command much for instruction, it is what it is, too many people see the millions earned by a very select few in the few big money sports out there and think the world follows suit
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She gives the majority of her lessons at Champions in Frederick MD which is a 100 mile round trip drive from her home in Arlington VA. $100 per hour is reasonable. I can assure you she gets many repeat lessons as she is a great instructor.

Wedge
 
30 an hour is below the low end of any wage for any kind of pro plus they get benefits and get paid for full time not someone using them for two hours and then never comes back.

a standard school teacher makes more than that for full time work.

an electrician gets 100 an hour so does a plummer. carpenters get 30 plus an hour.

unfortunately many people do work for minimum wage.
 
I am always amazed by people who while standing in line at the movies complain about the price of popcorn. Why do theaters charge so much? Because people pay it.
If some one can get $100-200, why would they charge less?
One pro told me ne charges $200 an hour. I said thanks and walked away.
If your kid was a tennis or golf prodigy there is a potentially a large return. Even it is only a college scholarship.
If your child was a pool prodigy you might be proud, but where is the return on your investment if you spe t thousands on lessons and table time.
 
Tony_in_MD said:
Johnny,

What happened to your New Years resolution?

;)
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I don't see this as a neg post. I simply want to see pros that teach get more comebacks and make more of a living. The more lessons, the more better players there will be. IMO it would be a win for the whole industry. If someone can charge $100 to $200 for lessons and get as many people as he/she wants, that's cool too.

Maybe it's because I hung with and played pros like Buddy, Allen, Mike S, Steve Cook and many more that I don't faint when one walks in the door. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
I don't see this as a neg post. I simply want to see pros that teach get more comebacks and make more of a living. The more lessons, the more better players there will be. IMO it would be a win for the whole industry. If someone can charge $100 to $200 for lessons and get as many people as he/she wants, that's cool too.

Maybe it's because I hung with and played pros like Buddy, Allen, Mike S, Steve Cook and many more that I don't faint when one walks in the door. Johnnyt
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I think you already stated the answer to your question. They charge what they want. Balancing how much they want to teach, what the market will bare and what they feel their time is worth.

A pro player does not automatically translate to being a good instructor. Who knows if they even like teaching. They might do it selectively.
 
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