Pro vs. Joe 9-ball spot

[Andrew Manning]

Say, hypothetically, there's a guy in the poolroom who's hypothetically an enormous pool geek and will jump at the chance to match up with a pro player regardless of how bad of a money-making proposition it is, as long as the stakes are affordable.

Let's further posit that said purely hypothetical player is a run-out 9-ball player, perhaps A- level.

What kind of spot might make a relatively even game between this anonymous (not to mention handsome) gentleman and a pro? For the sake of purely hypothetical argument, let's say the pro in question is Mike Davis.

-Andrew

 

[Black-Balled]

Talk to your financial advisor first.

 

[TimKrazyMon]

Say, hypothetically, there's a guy in the poolroom who's hypothetically an enormous pool geek and will jump at the chance to match up with a pro player regardless of how bad of a money-making proposition it is, as long as the stakes are affordable.

Let's further posit that said purely hypothetical player is a run-out 9-ball player, perhaps A- level.

What kind of spot might make a relatively even game between this anonymous (not to mention handsome) gentleman and a pro? For the sake of purely hypothetical argument, let's say the pro in question is Mike Davis.

-Andrew

you're from north VA? However you would match up against Matt Clatterbuck, add another ball and a half minimum.

 

[Andrew Manning]

Talk to your financial advisor first.

That would defeat the purpose entirely.

-Andrew

 

[Andrew Manning]

you're from north VA? However you would match up against Matt Clatterbuck, add another ball and a half minimum.

But I wouldn't know how to match up against Matt either, even though I've played him even in tournaments.

-Andrew

 

[vapoolplayer]

.................

 

[lastdimetaker]

Speaking for joe, i want the break an ball in hand after break. I think i got a chance.

 

[Black-Balled]

I say an AZB signature recently:

There's 2 kinds of people: day people and night people.

The night people's job is to try and get the day people's money.

 

[Andrew Manning]

Pretty much whatever the pro has to give to get the guy to play. At a pro level ball spots they give up don't really matter much if they are playing well.

If the hypothetical player is smart, they would take games on the wire and/or the break before they take ball spots.

So, for a typical run out A player....to make it competitive, probably 2-3 on the wire racing to 9, preferably with the breaks. Though having breaks might swing it in the A player's favor if they have a good break.

The break's a good idea, at least preventing sitting in the chair for multiple racks in a row. This could make it more competitive AND more enjoyable for our hypothetical protagonist.

The breaks and a ball spot (perhaps the 7) would probably be more palatable to the pro than the breaks and games on the wire.

For added information, by the way, the hypothetical match is on a pro-cut diamond that plays pretty tight, which I think actually helps our A player by helping him get to the table more, even though it challenges his ability to run out.

-Andrew

 

[Andrew Manning]

Speaking for joe, i want the break an ball in hand after break. I think i got a chance.

So like the ghost, except you can play safe if you want, and the ghost will probably make a mistake once in a while and let you get one back after you don't get out?

If the pro's smart and our hypothetical player is in stroke, the pro wouldn't bet on that.

-Andrew

 

[Andrew Manning]

I say an AZB signature recently:

There's 2 kinds of people: day people and night people.

The night people's job is to try and get the day people's money.

Right. But our hypothetical player isn't going to bet any amount he doesn't consider a worthwhile price for lessons. So losing every set is an acceptable outcome here.

-Andrew

 

[Masayoshi]

7-out and the breaks with the magic rack should be a reasonably even spot. You might need more weight without the MR.

If you want lessons and are looking to donate, just play even for cheap. Spots change the strategy of the game too much.

 

[RunoutJJ]

Play em even up or pack your cues and hit the door. Its the only way imo.

 

[jhanso18]

The breaks and the orange crush should even it fairly well...

 

[vapoolplayer]

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[poolguy4u]

Say, hypothetically, there's a guy in the poolroom who's hypothetically an enormous pool geek and will jump at the chance to match up with a pro player regardless of how bad of a money-making proposition it is, as long as the stakes are affordable.

Let's further posit that said purely hypothetical player is a run-out 9-ball player, perhaps A- level.

What kind of spot might make a relatively even game between this anonymous (not to mention handsome) gentleman and a pro? For the sake of purely hypothetical argument, let's say the pro in question is Mike Davis.

-Andrew

Go back to the old way. You're allowed to push out on every shot, no 3 foul rule, and you get the wild eight.

Then if you win, Mike gets to arm wrestle you double or nothing in the end.

 

[Andrew Manning]

Then if you win, Mike gets to arm wrestle you double or nothing in the end.

Mike's one of the few pro players I would be afraid of if it came to arm wrestling. I'm a big guy, and I work out, but he's bigger and it looks like he works out more.

-Andrew

 

[Matt]

So like the ghost, except you can play safe if you want, and the ghost will probably make a mistake once in a while and let you get one back after you don't get out?

If the pro's smart and our hypothetical player is in stroke, the pro wouldn't bet on that.

-Andrew

I was thinking the same thing. I know a lot of A players that can handle the ghost on a standard cut table, so I would think that those extra benefits would be enough to give them a win on a tight table. Then again, they might just fold under the pressure of playing a pro.

 

[poolguy4u]

Mike's one of the few pro players I would be afraid of if it came to arm wrestling. I'm a big guy, and I work out, but he's bigger and it looks like he works out more.

-Andrew

:yes:

Oh...you talk about arm wrestling and his ears will perk up.

It's a lot easier and quicker than shooting pool.:thumbup:

 

[jamesroberts]

How much you are betting plays a big factor in the spot as well.