Problems with Pierce cues

$650. Pretty sad. This internet is a tough world, but at least you didn't pay sales tax.

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What I can tell you for sure, is that Mr. Pierce is in far greater need of a grade school English teacher than he is an attorney .. lol

Seriously, if I received an e-mail like the ones Mr. Pierce sent to the OP, I would not be interested in speaking with him again either.

He sounds like he is 13 years old. :eek:
 
I have no horse in this thing, but I would not accept a $650 cue with that kind if wobble as brand new. There is no such thing as a tiny wobble in a brand new cue. Also, I would call that a small wobble, not a tiny one.

Every pool player I've known that sees that kind of wobble as a huge fn problem turns out to be the kind of pool player with a real pretty cue collection. A daily player, that's as expensive as it is pretty, usually $600.00-3k, a bar only cue ($300-1200) because they don't wanna dirty up their nice cue,lol. Then they get on a table and tell everyone about their CTE system as they shoot balls directly into the rails. Excuse after excuse and then when you get away from them you can't remover the last time you heard ".....is/was the nutz" so many times in your life.

You that guy? The a hole in the pool room with a custom case cost more than most peoples cues, shoots balls straight into the rail the whole time they're around, won't shut up about CTE, and is always about to leave anyway when someone asks to play for something (even something cheap)
 
I'm the seller

I agreed to send a refund once the cue was in my possession..
I should of been contacted, and this thread never should of been submitted..

You didn't do anything wrong at all. I don't know if are the country you are in or the Virazon but honestly it could just be the moisture content changing from state to state that caused the wobble. Don't know about the threads problem tho
 
I'm the seller

I agreed to send a refund once the cue was in my possession..
I should of been contacted, and this thread never should of been submitted..

I don't understand what the op's beef is then. You offered a refund. Pierce bent over backward to make the guy happy.

I have a old Schon SL-5 I'd like to sell but I haven't posted it on this website precisely because I don't want the hassle from something like this happening. I'd rather sit on a cue I'm not using than go though all the headaches.
 
I don't understand what the op's beef is then. You offered a refund. Pierce bent over backward to make the guy happy.
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The problem is what Pierce did while he was waiting for a call-back from J-Flo, who was indisposed at the time. Basically, he pumped vitriol out on the wires while he was waiting for J-Flo to respond, and when J-Flo saw that, it was a case of "ok, time out, enough's enough." He (Pierce) scuttled his own ship.

-Sean
 
I'm the seller

I agreed to send a refund once the cue was in my possession..
I should of been contacted, and this thread never should of been submitted..

your post is accurate and mis leading at the same time.

according to your previous posts . in your 1st contact with j-flo after he received the cue he expressed his disatisfaction with the cue you decided you had 2 options.

a. do nothing and let j-flo sell the cue to some other sucker as was his 1st thought.

b. try to make it right.

kudos to you for choosing your option b.

instead of offering a refund your method of trying to make it right was to call the cue maker and asking for a favor. why did you not offer a refund instead ?

after 2 weeks passed j-flo calls you asking for a refund saying he was not happy with what jim offered.

your response was to call jim again . why did you not give j-flo a refund then ?

after getting off the phone with jim the 2nd time where you apparently got in to a pissing contest with jim you demanded " your words " the cue back and would give a refund.

why j-flo did not take you up on your " demand " for the cue back and finally get the refund is beyond me.

maybe he decide not to deal with you and your apparent attitude like he decided not to deal with jims attitude ?

NOW FOR THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION FROM ME FOR THE 5TH TIME .

did you know the shaft had issues when you sold it to j-flo. ?

if not why not ? dont you check your cues out before you flip them ?

well actually 3 questions . :grin-square:
 
I don't understand what the op's beef is then. You offered a refund. Pierce bent over backward to make the guy happy.

I have a old Schon SL-5 I'd like to sell but I haven't posted it on this website precisely because I don't want the hassle from something like this happening. I'd rather sit on a cue I'm not using than go though all the headaches.

you gotta wade through all the b s in the entire thread to figure out the time line of events. . according to snowmon he finally offered a refund and " demanded " the cue back when he got into a pissing contest with jim.

maybe j-flo was taken aback by snowmons attitude also ? snowmon should have offered a refund the day he found out j-flo was not happy with the cue instead of dragging jim into this mess.
 
your post is accurate and mis leading at the same time.

according to your previous posts . in your 1st contact with j-flo after he received the cue he expressed his disatisfaction with the cue you decided you had 2 options.

a. do nothing and let j-flo sell the cue to some other sucker as was his 1st thought.

b. try to make it right.

kudos to you for choosing your option b.

instead of offering a refund your method of trying to make it right was to call the cue maker and asking for a favor. why did you not offer a refund instead ?

after 2 weeks passed j-flo calls you asking for a refund saying he was not happy with what jim offered.

your response was to call jim again . why did you not give j-flo a refund then ?

after getting off the phone with jim the 2nd time where you apparently got in to a pissing contest with jim you demanded " your words " the cue back and would give a refund.

why j-flo did not take you up on your " demand " for the cue back and finally get the refund is beyond me.

maybe he decide not to deal with you and your apparent attitude like he decided not to deal with jims attitude ?

NOW FOR THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION FROM ME FOR THE 5TH TIME .

did you know the shaft had issues when you sold it to j-flo. ?

if not why not ? dont you check your cues out before you flip them ?

well actually 3 questions . :grin-square:

The answers to these questions will sum up the ordeal.
I dont understand why everyone is knocking Jim's work. This shouldve never happened like this.
 
Why the F()@& do you feel I owe you some sort of response..

Your a troll, a nobody with zero I-trader acting like your some sort of expert in this hobby of cue collectiong.. It's obvious your just a little drama queen with nothing better to do than keep this waste of bandwidth alive..

I'm going to answer your questions, and when I'm done go climb back into the hole you came from..

your post is accurate and mis leading at the same time.

according to your previous posts . in your 1st contact with j-flo after he received the cue he expressed his disatisfaction with the cue you decided you had 2 options.

a. do nothing and let j-flo sell the cue to some other sucker as was his 1st thought.

This isn't my response, but of course you'll take any opportunity to modify my post so your trollish personality can shine..

b. try to make it right.

kudos to you for choosing your option b.

Your approval means nothing to me..

instead of offering a refund your method of trying to make it right was to call the cue maker and asking for a favor. why did you not offer a refund instead ?

John never asked for a refund initially, he wanted the cue as he has admitted..
Jim is a friend, I've purchased, and ordered many cues from him, and knew he would have no problem helping out..



after 2 weeks passed j-flo calls you asking for a refund saying he was not happy with what jim offered.

your response was to call jim again . why did you not give j-flo a refund then ?

Jim had the cue in his possession when j-flo requested a refund.
I called Jim to find out why j-flo was not happy, and demanded Jim send the cue back to me..
Do you expect me to issue a refund on a cue that's not in my possession.. Really????It's obvious your an expert..



after getting off the phone with jim the 2nd time where you apparently got in to a pissing contest with jim you demanded " your words " the cue back and would give a refund. You have the amazing command for the obvious



why j-flo did not take you up on your " demand " for the cue back and finally get the refund is beyond me. I can't answer that question, I wasn't apart of John, and Jim's conversation

maybe he decide not to deal with you and your apparent attitude like he decided not to deal with jims attitude ? My apparent attitude lol My attitude towards John was 100% professional, Not once did I verbally attacked him..

NOW FOR THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION FROM ME FOR THE 5TH TIME .



did you know the shaft had issues when you sold it to j-flo. ?

No I didn't know the shaft had issues.. I purchased the cue new from Jim, took it out for a spin, and put it in my collection with the rest of my cues..

if not why not ? dont you check your cues out before you flip them ?

Oh yes, you use the term " FLIP" just like a hen in a knitting circle..
The cue was in pristine condition..I only sell, trade, and buy NEW, or pristine condition cues..
I don't collect projects. I only collect 95% + condition cues..


well actually 3 questions . :grin-square:

Here's a summary just incase you got lost reading my responses..

John wanted the cue, and didn't want a refund..
If he would of asked for a refund he would of got one.
I went to work to satisfy John..

John and Jim had a miscommunication by text, and John requests a refund..
Jim had the cue in his possession at this time..
I called Jim to find out what happened, and demanded the cue be sent back to me.
Once the cue arrived in my possession I would issue a refund to John..

John and Jim decided to work this out, and decided to ignore my demand to send the cue back to me for a refund..

John isn't happy with the results, doesn't contact me, and puts Jim, and I on blast
starting this thread.. I don't think John started this hoping for a resolution..


 
John isn't happy with the results, doesn't contact me, and puts Jim, and I on blast
starting this thread.. I don't think John started this hoping for a resolution..

No, he didn't put you there, you did. The agreement between Jim and John was breached, Jim has admitted as such. John is still seething that someone behaved as such. You interjected three different accounts of the problem, and have changed your story each time you repeat it. Whatever is the true version of events, it doesn't matter. The continual problem is Jim Pierce. And you're right, John didn't start this thread for resolution. Any chance of that happening disappeared long ago, along with Jim Pierce's credibility.
 
Why the F()@& do you feel I owe you some sort of response..

Your a troll, a nobody with zero I-trader acting like your some sort of expert in this hobby of cue collectiong.. It's obvious your just a little drama queen with nothing better to do than keep this waste of bandwidth alive..

I'm going to answer your questions, and when I'm done go climb back into the hole you came from..



Here's a summary just incase you got lost reading my responses..

John wanted the cue, and didn't want a refund..
If he would of asked for a refund he would of got one.
I went to work to satisfy John..

John and Jim had a miscommunication by text, and John requests a refund..
Jim had the cue in his possession at this time..
I called Jim to find out what happened, and demanded the cue be sent back to me.
Once the cue arrived in my possession I would issue a refund to John..

John and Jim decided to work this out, and decided to ignore my demand to send the cue back to me for a refund..

John isn't happy with the results, doesn't contact me, and puts Jim, and I on blast
starting this thread.. I don't think John started this hoping for a resolution..



i will not bother responding to the insults hurled at me ...just want to say thanks for clarifying a few things though. :wink:

as for my i -trader ? well there have been a few times i thought about pulling the trigger on here for a couple of cues.. didn;t because i thought they were high priced.

if i ever do pull the trigger on here i will use escrow only.....dont want to incur fiascos such as this one.....seems to happen a lot on here lately.

as far as my expertise in cue collecting goes.... no i am no expert. i do have common sense though. :grin-square:

i currently have cues ranging in price from 50.00 to 3,000.00 . i have bought and sold a few cues....heck i have even given away cues to team mates who were not as financially stable as i was.

i am not gonna ask how much of an expert you are at cues....don't want to offend you any more than i have.:wink:

i do wonder how you could play with a cue and not see the issues j-flo and jim did though.

no need to reply to me. your last response told me all i needed to know about this fiasco.
 
No, he didn't put you there, you did. The agreement between Jim and John was breached, Jim has admitted as such. John is still seething that someone behaved as such. You interjected three different accounts of the problem, and have changed your story each time you repeat it. Whatever is the true version of events, it doesn't matter. The continual problem is Jim Pierce. And you're right, John didn't start this thread for resolution. Any chance of that happening disappeared long ago, along with Jim Pierce's credibility.

My replies are consistent..
Your interpretation might be where the inconstancies are..
Why don't you read my posts and show me where I've lied..
 
My replies are consistent..
Your interpretation might be where the inconstancies are..
Why don't you read my posts and show me where I've lied..

You think that, but I suggest you read your replies from the start. You may have since tried to clear up your side of the story, but your original posts remain confusing and misleading. I never said you lied. I said there are inconsistencies. If that's saying you lied, then I know where the true problem with this deal now stands. You are the problem snowman.
 
You think that, but I suggest you read your replies from the start. You may have since tried to clear up your side of the story, but your original posts remain confusing and misleading. I never said you lied. I said there are inconsistencies. If that's saying you lied, then I know where the true problem with this deal now stands. You are the problem snowman.

No your the problem Hits 'em Hard, It's obvious your a troll, and won't let this die...
You thrive on misery, and your reading skills are lacking. My name is Snowmon.

Here's another version for you to enjoy:

John wanted to keep the cue so I put Jim, and John together.. They came to an agreement to resolve the issue..

John sends the cue to Jim, Jim receives the cue.. They have a misunderstanding texting each other.. John texts me and asks for a refund.. I call Jim, we have some words and I tell him to send the cue back to me.. Once I get the cue back I'll send
John his refund..

John and Jim, (Jim, and John who knows) decide they're not going to ship the cue back
and work the problem out themselves..

John, nor Jim inform me there's a problem.
John starts this thread...


I'm sure you'll find issues with this version also.. :grin:
I hope the rest of your day is filled with positive goodness Sir...
 
The prob with Hit Em Hard is he and his best friend Salemander sit around hitting the bong to hard. Then they sit down with their squeeze cheese and ritz then come on here looking to stir the pot.
 
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The prob with Hit Em Hard is he and his best friend Salemander sit around hitting the bong to hard. Then they sit down with their squeeze cheese and ritz and come on here looking to stir the pot.

hahaha..
I didn't put the Colorado connection together..
I think you might be onto something.. :thumbup:

Give me a call when you get a chance..
 
you gotta wade through all the b s in the entire thread to figure out the time line of events. . according to snowmon he finally offered a refund and " demanded " the cue back when he got into a pissing contest with jim.

maybe j-flo was taken aback by snowmons attitude also ? snowmon should have offered a refund the day he found out j-flo was not happy with the cue instead of dragging jim into this mess.

I don't know anybody involved in the transaction but I looked at the first post and the guy was upset because a used cue had a small taper roll in the shaft. Then I found out he was offered and refund and the cuemaker sent his another shaft.

I'll bet I could joint that cue and run 100 balls in equal offense without a problem.

That's why I hesitate to do business on the wanted/for sale forum. Too much bad action.
 
I don't know anybody involved in the transaction but I looked at the first post and the guy was upset because a used cue had a small taper roll in the shaft. Then I found out he was offered and refund and the cuemaker sent his another shaft.

I'll bet I could joint that cue and run 100 balls in equal offense without a problem.

That's why I hesitate to do business on the wanted/for sale forum. Too much bad action.

cue snobs getting nitty about the smallest details. but you know he has a special cue just for the bar and one just for this or that. etc......

you see how he acted when i pointed out that it was real small? he should be happy. now he has an excuse to tell people when he shoots the balls straight into the rail
 
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