Pathetic Shark
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Cool, that would be good to see. One thing, however; your table appears to play much more generously than CJs (although the pockets could've tightened up considerably from when you first had it recovered).
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Cool, that would be good to see. One thing, however; your table appears to play much more generously than CJs (although the pockets could've tightened up considerably from when you first had it recovered).
Pathetic Shark
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No one is seriously doubting current touring pros could do it. That wasn't the implication of your post.
The statement was that no one else on here could do it. I disagreed. Now you want to only allow those that can't do it......hmmm......
Pathetic Shark
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Um, what???
How do you know he took a five-minute break? The balls aren't even anywhere close to where he left them in their respective pockets. What did he do, take them all out and put them back in again in the lower two pockets and yet not make a shot between the two racks?
Look again. The 14 was the first ball pocketed, then all of a sudden it's up on top of about 8 balls in the same pocket? How'd that happen during a five-minute break? C'mon, get real. I don't care how many racks CJ says he can run consecutively, this is video proof of nothing.
"Real eyes, realize, real lies", right CJ? Or as I always say, "What my eyes see, my heart must believe".
Yup, the "cue ball transition point" (where the cue ball mysteriously appears on the opposite long side of the table near the side pocket) occurs right at 4:32.
Additionally, you notice during the first rack's run:
1. CJ is moving balls out of "his" pocket (the lower left corner pocket as viewed from the head-end of the table -- the corner pocket nearest the camera), he relocates them to the left side pocket (again, "left" as viewed from the head-end of the table), the left head-end corner pocket, and the right foot-end corner pocket (the "opponent's" pocket).
2. However, right after 4:32 in the video -- when the cue ball <poof!> appears on a different location on the table -- *all* of the balls are located only in the foot-end corner pockets. Where were the balls in the left side and left head-end corner pocket?
That's not to say CJ just moved them off-camera in preparation for the next rack, but to say this video -- and this table, for that matter -- were "two seamless runouts of 15-ball racks (minus the break-pocketed ball in the first rack)" is obviously incorrect at best. At worst, it's deceit.
-Sean
Now, now, you know that just pointing out the obvious will be sufficient cause to label you a hater. One must not ever disagree with the pros on here. It's sacrilege to some.
ummm that you are reading into posts what you want to be there, even though it isn't there. John said that he would like to see a video of anyone on here that can do it, no matter what size pocket they use. I stated that there are a number of people on here that can do it. That you want to read that I said " lots of amateurs can do it" is on you, not me. Not my fault you didn't realize that other pros post on here too from time to time. CJ is far from alone in being able to do it, no matter what John thinks, or what CJ wants to imply.
Um, I think he simply read "many here" to mean active members, not pros with accounts that haven't been touched in god knows how long. I know I did.
You know what's coming, though. Right? The finger will be pointed at Mary Avina shooting some balls on this table, and plugging-in that A/C power cord on the floor, in between "takes" during that 5-minute break.
-Sean <-- huffing puffs of his breath on his crystal ball and rubbing the forearm of his shirt on it to polish it
I'm not trying to start a sht storm...just posting what I noticed at first glance in the video when trying to look for differences. I occasionally play the photo game (forget the exact name of it) in a bar when no one is playing pool where you touch the 5 differences between the two pictures so I am a semi expert at this
CJ is implying he is the only one who can do it? I am pretty sure Bartram could do it but I am also pretty sure he is the only who one posts in this thread who can do it. Also maybe he thought frequent posters on here which is how I would have interpreted it as well. If you want to include Earl as a poster on here, how many posts does he have and when was the last to be made. I am interested in that info for Shane as well.
I hope no one is saying CJ didn't run those 29 balls -- gimme a break. The last DCC I went to was the last year they were at the Executive West. I believe they had a one pocket challenge where the high run was something like 54, which I believe was done by Gabe Owen. I know it was in the 50's -- may not be exactly 54. There were a bunch over 30, that's for sure.
CJ is more than capable of running 29 balls into one pocket. That's a super feat with any pocket size - it doesn't matter if it's 4.5 or 4" or 4.25 --- it's a great run. If he edited the video to cut out a pause between racks, big deal.... unless, of course, some of you are claiming he can't run 29 balls. I wouldn't bet he couldn't.
CJ is more than capable of running 29 balls into one pocket. That's a super feat with any pocket size - it doesn't matter if it's 4.5 or 4" or 4.25 --- it's a great run. If he edited the video to cut out a pause between racks, big deal.... unless, of course, some of you are claiming he can't run 29 balls. I wouldn't bet he couldn't.
I would think that you could give ANY of today's TOP players this challenge and you would end up winning in the long run. They may do it every once in a while in a set of 10 tries, but I think the odds are against it.
I don't think any pro would bet he could run that many in 10 tries.
Sir, you are wisest in the "Pocket Knowledge Kingdom"
Sir, you are wisest in the "Pocket Kingdom"
.. That's why I put the balls in the pocket as a reference, they are exactly 4.5" (together) - so the outside of the pocket can't possibly be 4.5". Arguing this fact is a feeble diversionary tactic, no more, no less.
We can "split hairs" as to what I meant when "a hair over 4" pockets" was stated, and what does this accomplish? The pockets are extremely challenging and anyone that's been to my teaching facility (Champion's Way in Ft. Worth Tx) will confirm this fact.
We dislike loose equipment and my forte is playing on super tight tables and preferably a 10' table that has worn cloth and "rolls off" a little bit.
For anyone that doesn't know what KlockDoc was referring to, here's the video so you can see for yourself.
RUNNING 29 BALLS IN A ROW IN ONE POCKET
Sir, you are wisest in the "Pocket Kingdom"
.. That's why I put the balls in the pocket as a reference, they are exactly 4.5" (together) - so the outside of the pocket can't possibly be 4.5". Arguing this fact is a feeble diversionary tactic, no more, no less.We can "split hairs" as to what I meant when "a hair over 4" pockets" was stated, and what does this accomplish? The pockets are extremely challenging and anyone that's been to my teaching facility (Champion's Way in Ft. Worth Tx) will confirm this fact.
We dislike loose equipment and my forte is playing on super tight tables and preferably a 10' table that has worn cloth and "rolls off" a little bit.
For anyone that doesn't know what KlockDoc was referring to, here's the video so you can see for yourself.
RUNNING 29 BALLS IN A ROW IN ONE POCKET
I would think that top players don't mind a roll as much as lesser players. Table roll affects lesser players more than it does players of a higher caliber. Better players know to "power" the ball through the roll to keep it online instead of "babying" the ball and letting the table take over.
Most of the pros put a bit of "zing" in their shots...they DON'T slow roll unless they HAVE to.
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Yes Neil, please name the ones on here who can do it?
That pocket is tighter than 4 1/2.