You are funny, Sir....and I do respect older people because that's how I was brought up and I've spent a lot of time around the "seniors" in the pool hall where I grew up.... you are so clever to throw propaganda at me and anyone with an open mind that thinks pool can change.....how precious. :joyful: Did you work for Monsanto? Why are you so determined for pool and it's players to stay oppressed.....does it give you a feeling of "revenge" or something else?
Only the naive' would think that "TV" puts things like pool on TV....it's people (promoters) that put sports and games on TV, and unless they think there's a huge benefit ESPN would not get involved.....and these days there's no huge upside obviously....that's what we're determined to change......and I predict we will because I work with REAL PEOPLE, not fantasize about "TV" suddenly waking up and saying "you know what's not on my station? Pool, pool's not on and I want to go investigate it and see how it can happen"....(Matt Braun is the one that's been putting "Challenge of Champions" on ESPN for over 20 years.....is he the only one that can do it? He's a Western Writer, he's doesn't even have a TV background for goodness sake)
This is fantasy indeed, TV doesn't care what's on as long as it makes money, like a bar owner doesn't care what beer, wine, or whiskey it carries as long as it makes them money....and liquor representatives are the ones that come in and sell the "Newest, Latest, Greatest" products........who does this for the "Pool World"? That's right, no one......and the results are obvious in this respect as well.
How many TV events have you done? 0? And you speak with authority. LMAO!!! That's like someone that's never been out of Kansas trying to explain the ocean to someone......what a humorous man you are.....gotta love your spunk though.
It's really cute that you think the future of pool is your lawn and you insist on telling everyone to "Stay Off"!~!! I've never laughed this much since I Joe Rogan told me about how he got his start in the Men's locker room.
This was my original pool mentor that ran the three table pool room where I grew up in Green City Missouri. I started visiting the pool hall when 7 years old and had to stand on Pepsi crates to reach the table. Orrin took me under his wing and assured my mother I'd be safe and he'd make sure I just played pool while in the building. That wasn't much of a task, I loved that game and it become a big part of my life.....it was my sport, my escape, and yes, the game was also my teacher. Thanks, Orrin for all you did for me, RIP my friend, you will always be a part of my pool career and I'm sure you would have been pleasantly surprised to witness the journey the game has taken me on......and now it continues.
Boy oh Boy....CJ's persistence has grown on me. It should be abundantly clear to everyone why this guy was a champion on the pool table -- the guy just doesn't give up. You have to admire the guy for that much.
(Did I just say "Boy oh Boy"? How old am I? This place is turning me into an old man).
Oh and I still think championship level 9 ball is more difficult than championship level one-pocket....but of course I've played neither so what do I know??? Don't answer that SJD.
For many of us, it boils down to this -- pool in all of its forms is NOT rocket science. Even one-pocket, with all of its intricacies, still isn't all that difficult. It doesn't take a genius to identify all the possible shots from any given one-pocket lay out. Sure it takes more thought that good old fashioned 9 ball, but half of the time you’re thinking about "what can I do here to avoid having to actually shoot at something."
So for people that view the game the way I do, we are not so impressed with the creativity of players but with their ability to execute. This is where I think CJ has it right, in that HIS version of 9 Ball forces players to bring it! You have to execute to win. Actually, I'm such a simple guy -- I'm still more impressed watching powerful old fashioned 9 ball or 10 ball than one-pocket.
'The Magic Bullet will be the Teacher'Yes, we obviously do "Real Eyes" this --- why do you continue to point out the obvious? If it was interesting in the present form there would be no need for this conversation. Obviously a change must occur to make it interesting....we all know it is, we just don't understand how to present it appropriately.
If pool's boring, then why on earth aren't we out fishing, bowling, hunting or at the rodeo? .:groucho:...the answer is "it's not boring" that's just the way it's presented currently, we all know there's MUCH more to pool than what's presently displayed.....much more.
Poker was exactly the same way before they started showing the "hole card".....and then they "saw the light" and some REAL PEOPLE started promoting the game on TV with all the whistles, bells, and understood the essential component......developing the characters....and the rest is history.
Pool has the same "magic bullet," and I'll give everyone a little hint --- it has nothing to do with the "hole card".
SJDinPHX said:
Yes, apparently you know all about how not to do TV events. I'm impressed.Maybe you can advise us how to run a "one flavor" sno cone stand as well? Everything you say is obvious, and what we are doing is not obvious, as a matter of fact it's......how do you say........hmmmm.....oh, yeah, it's different.....yes, that's the word d i f f e r e n t.
Whom ever has tried their "Plan A" long enough, maybe, just maybe it's time for "Play B".
You never seem to quite get it do you ?..Read my emboldened response, to your "naïve" comment...please !..I know all about how promoters have to get a TV station, to air their product. They have to get a producer, finance it, and offer the pkg to the TV entity, (in this case, ESPN) That's exactly what I said in shorthand, thinking YOU would comprehend what I was saying..(I should have known better) :banghead:
If its a proven product, like MLB, NFL, etc... ESPN (or NBC) will enter into a contract, and just film it 'LIVE'..with an agreement to share advertising revenue !....Like Super Bowl..what is it, about a million dollars per minute to advertise ?.. And the advertiser STILL has to foot the bill for their own costs, in making the commercial !...Obviously you will be going the FORMER route, and I wish you luck..You are REALLY, REALLY, REALLY gonna need it !
Things are a little different these days, but George Jansco must have been a "LITTLE" sharper operator than you !...He got "Wide World of Sports" to come and film his 1962 tournament, on their OWN dime !..And they even provided professional commentary. (Jim McKay)... He was also first to get the Casino's to start fronting the prize money !...Smart cookie that Georgie !
I guess we are into 'funny pictures' again, huh ?..I thought you cried "uncle" on that stuff ?. Don't make me resurrect Mr. Coyote and Mr. RoadRunner again ???
Heres one for ya, 'whippersnapper'..very appropo, I'd say !
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:smile:Here's a news flash its 2013 and there is 300 channels not 3 and if pool was played at that pace with talking and running out of balls it would not be where it is today but its not people loved the commercials but the live version resembling grass growing in a church like setting appeals to very very few
Your color's are starting to show....maybe you should give yourself a time out.:smile:
