Pros and Cons Gambling

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Last night a friend said that gambling on pool in the usa "hurts" the sport.
I understand why this is often claimed, but is it true?
Does gambling "hurt" poker? Or Blackjack? Does gambling "hurt" football?

I love to play One Pocket for $10 or $20 a game. Maybe some golf on the snooker table. These games don't really play "right" without a little wager to keep from shooting silly shots.
I think a gambling on pool has given it a unique culture and history. The name "pool" itself comes from people "pooling" their money together to wager on the games. I've loved hearing the old gambling stories from Ronnie Allen, Luther Lassiter, and Grady Matthews ect.
Hearing something like Chohan is playing someone for $10k or whatever makes me want to see the action.
For me a little gambling makes this a unique and fun sport.
 
Does a player play pool because he likes to gamble or does he gamble because he likes to play pool? If the main interest is gambling, there's no real reason to improve -- just match up better.
 
I think it has hurt the pool scene. It has caused it to be associated with seediness in public opinion. I don't know that it's the only reason but I think that public opinion contributes to the fact the us has no Federation,, no government funding of players/youth academies, not even an official league, it's all done by private for profit companies.

If you look at the gambling cultures in eu vs us over pool, it clearly doesn't seem to produce mentally stronger players, as so many gamblers I know claim.
 
1pocketguru said:
Last night a friend said that gambling on pool in the usa "hurts" the sport.
I understand why this is often claimed, but is it true?
Does gambling "hurt" poker? Or Blackjack? Does gambling "hurt" football?

I love to play One Pocket for $10 or $20 a game. Maybe some golf on the snooker table. These games don't really play "right" without a little wager to keep from shooting silly shots.
I think a gambling on pool has given it a unique culture and history. The name "pool" itself comes from people "pooling" their money together to wager on the games. I've loved hearing the old gambling stories from Ronnie Allen, Luther Lassiter, and Grady Matthews ect.
Hearing something like Chohan is playing someone for $10k or whatever makes me want to see the action.
For me a little gambling makes this a unique and fun sport.
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Gambling doesn't hurt a thing. If someone tells you they don't gamble in Europe they're lying or clueless.
 
1pocketguru said:
Last night a friend said that gambling on pool in the usa "hurts" the sport.
I understand why this is often claimed, but is it true?
Does gambling "hurt" poker? Or Blackjack? Does gambling "hurt" football?

I love to play One Pocket for $10 or $20 a game. Maybe some golf on the snooker table. These games don't really play "right" without a little wager to keep from shooting silly shots.
I think a gambling on pool has given it a unique culture and history. The name "pool" itself comes from people "pooling" their money together to wager on the games. I've loved hearing the old gambling stories from Ronnie Allen, Luther Lassiter, and Grady Matthews ect.
Hearing something like Chohan is playing someone for $10k or whatever makes me want to see the action.
For me a little gambling makes this a unique and fun sport.
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I don’t want to digress but since you play one pocket can I ask how do you combat someone that plays one pocket like regular pool?

An example is someone blasting the break to start and turn the one pocket game into pool?

I’ve seen better players do this and their reasoning is to have a shootout and skip the strategic part of the game.
 
shooter_Hans said:
I don’t want to digress but since you play one pocket can I ask how do you combat someone that plays one pocket like regular pool?

An example is someone blasting the break to start and turn the one pocket game into pool?

I’ve seen better players do this and their reasoning is to have a shootout and skip the strategic part of the game.
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That is the argument FOR gambling!
 
shooter_Hans said:
I don’t want to digress but since you play one pocket can I ask how do you combat someone that plays one pocket like regular pool?

An example is someone blasting the break to start and turn the one pocket game into pool?

I’ve seen better players do this and their reasoning is to have a shootout and skip the strategic part of the game.
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Take all their mony is what you do. Anyone that breaks like that in 1p is a sucker usually.
 
My dad and Otto, played $1 a hole golf till they died.
It was more for bragging rights between two men who enjoy competitive sports.
One a Black Hawks hockey player, the other a HOF football player.

But..... When you're out and about, and you don't eat or get a hotel room for the night because of your loss, then your perspective and perception of being ''in the moment'' is quite different.

Never heard of a card player, that enjoyed playing poker for free.
Pool/Poker are pretty much the same, players surrounded by green felt/workin' it late at night.
 
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I know the economy is tough for some but you broke boys need to stop gambling.

It’s not Great Depression bad people and get a job.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Does a player play pool because he likes to gamble or does he gamble because he likes to play pool? If the main interest is gambling, there's no real reason to improve -- just match up better.
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There is always a reason to improve.., to get the same game and steal! Any player that plays the game wants to improve even if they only play for the Money.
 
The pro is that sometimes I make money.

The con is that sometimes I lose money. 😁



I've always said that I would rather win a $5 from one of my golfing or pool buddies than find a $100 bill on the ground.

Pool is like golf. from the earliest days it has been a betting/gambling game. A lot of people think that neither is the same without a little sumpin' sumpin' on the line…

How often does anybody ask the question "has gambling hurt golf"?

So no, I don't think that gambling hurts pool. The perception of the environment in which it's often played has a lot more to do with it than the fact that people often wager on it.

Given the nature of the game itself, one that's most often played in bars, I don't know that you're ever going to be able to do much to change that perception, simply because much of it is true.
 
shooter_Hans said:
I don’t want to digress but since you play one pocket can I ask how do you combat someone that plays one pocket like regular pool?

An example is someone blasting the break to start and turn the one pocket game into pool?

I’ve seen better players do this and their reasoning is to have a shootout and skip the strategic part of the game.
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Can't be a ''better player" if they break like that, just ask Corey Deuel.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Does a player play pool because he likes to gamble or does he gamble because he likes to play pool? If the main interest is gambling, there's no real reason to improve -- just match up better.
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This.

That gambling culture (and the lack of nationally organized, even competition) led to local tournaments almost all being handicapped. Nobody wants to change it, because the players would not come, so they say.

You loose a lot of players who would have the talent and the drive to get better, but give up fighting the handicap. Getting better and not being able to reap the rewards feels wrong.

I am guessing your discussion started while watching the Mosconi Cup, sorry if I diverted. But I believe, the gambling culture + the BCA void does hurt competing with other country's/continent's top players.
 
shooter_Hans said:
I don’t want to digress but since you play one pocket can I ask how do you combat someone that plays one pocket like regular pool?

An example is someone blasting the break to start and turn the one pocket game into pool?

I’ve seen better players do this and their reasoning is to have a shootout and skip the strategic part of the game.
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garczar said:
Take all their mony is what you do. Anyone that breaks like that in 1p is a sucker usually.
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King T said:
Can't be a ''better player" if they break like that, just ask Corey Deuel.
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was going to post about the corey shannon daulton match
 
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