Purpleheart, Ebony, Bocote, Money Makers

moxiecues said:
Schmelke Blanks,Purpleheart,Ebony,Bocote,i can build you anything you want out of this Blanks............rings, small inlays, ect, lets see you design your own Sneaky,why pay more,i can build you the same cues others build,and i can build for less.......................and if not, buy from whoever can beat this deal.

moxiecues said:
Varney,Who are u bullshiting,are you telling me and azb'er that you don't buy your Sneaky Blanks, from Schmelke,also are you telling me and others that Schmelke Cues are junk,sooo if you don't buy your blanks from schmelke lets hear who you buy from,or just tell us who else is selling blanks...........like these, thats not to hard of a Question,also i will out build you anyday,lets see you build more then beginner cues,hey how about putting in some Inlays............the cues you make are a dime a dozen,so easy i don't even like to build them,anytime you want to take me up give me a call................but don't try to run me down,put your money were your mouth is.........so you are saying i am buliding junk cues and thats why i can sell them so cheap.... or are you robbing all the guys you sell cues to...............yours truely gsirca, Hey give me a call i would love to here what your smart ass has to say....................


moxiecues said:
Yeah..........He trying to bust my balls.WTF doesn't he know i love a good fight.................ill bet a 1000.00 on Me.............somebody set it up ill be there...............saying i make JUNK cues...............VARNEY BRING YOUR BEST CUE..................HEY I WILL SPOT YOU 4 INLAYS.

gsirca said:
Hey this is my kids Account and you were trying to bust his balls and i didn't think that you have any right to bust anybody balls,we have all seen your work............and well lets just kept it as that,we are not looking for trouble.............there is a lot i can say,but i will keep my mouth shut this time...............look there it a lot of room here for all of us cue builders...............so lets build cues...............also i never said that i didn't like your work.............it is fine for what it is ,i think i said it is beginner cues.............not bad cues....if you want to call them something else OK,if this is the end so be it..............BUT WE ARE JUST TRYING TO BUILD CUE AT A FAIR PRICE ,NOT GIVE ANYBODY ANY SHIT ....................gsirca

gsirca said:
OK,If Kevin wants everybody to think he builds or does not buy his blanks from Schmelke then thats fine,but thats the way he makes players think that they are getting something better...so they will pay more money, so he makes more money,i have been building cues for ten years and any good cue builder makes his own parts...........i only buy pins,i have bought other things but build most of all my own parts,VARNEY'S level of cue buliding is obvious, you need to wake up....................also the blanks are good for what they are, but Schmelke are great people and they give 100% guarantee,i don't use many,because i don't build to many of those kind of cues, not really building them just dressing them up,thats all... Anybody with a lathe can do that,my kid likes to build them so he is building them,and he has learned to build all of his own parts also,some people just need to keep there big hole shut............if Varney thinks he's the best then,let him act like it.dont pick on new guys.............pick on me, i am a big boy and i pick back.IT WASN'T ABOUT THE BLANKS........IT WAS ABOUT THE BUILDER AND THE PRICE.............WAKE UP


Kid's account or not, it sure looks like the same person is writing to me. Now cue making style being picked up I can see, but writing styles? It's very apparent that these two individuals are one in the same. There are just too many similarities The use of capitalization, the use of ........... etc.


Here is the thread about Multiple Accounts being against forum rules. However, that's not really my business and is up to the mods to decide. My apologies if I am wrong, but I don't think I am.


Professionalism goes a long way in my book and it is abundantly clear to me those that have it, and those that do not. Regardless of what people think of price, I will always choose to do business with those that deserve it.

Regards,
Craig
 
Wow! Aren't we a bit testy? Schmekle blanks are decent for the money. I'd rather buy a Prather blank myself but there are about a dozen or so sources to buy full splice blanks from.

Now, take a deep breathe and picture your happy place......:cool:
 
Varney Cues said:
Well since you insist...
Its absolutely amazing that you make such statements. So we are to believe you are psychic and therefore you know my suppliers? You keep swearing I'm using Schmelke blanks...well why don't you call the "great people" and have them check their sales records for you. Be sure to report back what they said. In the meantime I'll post this pic of 3 cues using my standard blank. Its very clear to anyone looking that they are indeed NOT the same. The gap between the points is much more narrow, and even better looking, on the Schmelke blank pics you posted. I never claimed to make my own fullsplice blanks, its common knowledge I don't make my own fullsplice blanks...very few cuemakers do.
You've shown yourself to be a class act Greg...I wish you the very best. And hey...you are selling cues your kid made under the name moxiecues, thats fantastic! How old is he? Wish I had started younger...maybe then I could be building some fancy cues with inlays instead of my "beginner" cues that everyone seems to love. I look forward to the day when I saved up $1800 so I can buy an inlay machine and make my cues play better!:rolleyes:
Ok i see you buy house cues,cut them in half put a pin in and some linen base on ........well that is great............thats hard work, so i guess they play better then schmelke blanks because you did all that hard work,and thats what you telling players when you take there money,well there are a lot of players out there,and if there want to spend there money on a house cues cut in half, fine with me,i can pick up Valley house cues for 12.00 dollars......................so if they are paying any more then 100.00,then you are robbing them.............if this is the best you can do and you are making money at it, then what can i say.............O and for the inlay Machine...........i don't use one i cut all my cues with a chainsaw and a butter knife...............also if you didn't know, they are called mills not inlays machine ....and from what i have seen of your level of cue building ,save your 1800.00.................because you can't make house cues look much better then you all ready have..............so kept up the good hard work...........and make lots of money....and you are right Fancy cues don't play any better,but they sure look better,seems like all the Pro's seems to like them............and use them,so maybe you need to have a talk with them and tell them how great your house cues are.
 
Irish634 said:
Kid's account or not, it sure looks like the same person is writing to me. Now cue making style being picked up I can see, but writing styles? It's very apparent that these two individuals are one in the same. There are just too many similarities The use of capitalization, the use of ........... etc.


Here is the thread about Multiple Accounts being against forum rules. However, that's not really my business and is up to the mods to decide. My apologies if I am wrong, but I don't think I am.


Professionalism goes a long way in my book and it is abundantly clear to me those that have it, and those that do not. Regardless of what people think of price, I will always choose to do business with those that deserve it.

Regards,
Craig
No shit, thats because i have been responding to all the post,wow how did you figure that out..........you could have just ask me a would have told you..................gsirca
 
gsirca or moxie or bateman or whatever you call yourself. Would you be interested in converting a nice oversized broomstick for me. Inlays would be impairative. 36 to be exact, I need it to shoot lights out.
 
gsirca said:
No shit, thats because i have been responding to all the post,wow how did you figure that out..........you could have just ask me a would have told you..................gsirca

Alright, I am asking you:

  1. Why the need for two (or more) names?
  2. Then why not post as yourself?
  3. If YOU were the one that initiated the thread to basically say "I can build for less, if not you can buy from them" drumming up YOUR business, why not post under your OWN username?

I am sure you build a fine cue, I am not taking away from that. I am sure you have many satisfied customers as well, but after seeing this thread and your reactions, I won't be one of them. I am sure you don't have a problem with that, and neither do I.

If you and your son have different businesses and names that's fine, I don't think anyone would dispute that. But, if I ever wanted to discuss business with you, I would want to talk to you and not your son, or vice versa.

Good luck to you.
Craig
 
Irish634 said:
Alright, I am asking you:

  1. Why the need for two (or more) names?
  2. Then why not post as yourself?
  3. If YOU were the one that initiated the thread to basically say "I can build for less, if not you can buy from them" drumming up YOUR business, why not post under your OWN username?

I am sure you build a fine cue, I am not taking away from that. I am sure you have many satisfied customers as well, but after seeing this thread and your reactions, I won't be one of them. I am sure you don't have a problem with that, and neither do I.

If you and your son have different businesses and names that's fine, I don't think anyone would dispute that. But, if I ever wanted to discuss business with you, I would want to talk to you and not your son, or vice versa.

Good luck to you.
Craig

Ok fair question,first my name is greg sirca,that is were the gsirca comes from,also i have a cue company named gscue and my son has came up with moxiecues...............can i not have five companys if i want,i have never started a account as gscue the cue company,and i have nothing to hide ,why over cues............please.......i also have Playsome cues so what..............anybody that has been around for 10 years knows that,so what is your point..if AZ want to tell me that i can't do that fine,but what have i done.............i am gsirca..........and posted on my sons site sure,so what...how can you make something out of that.........big deal let AZ babysit,and you go play some pool,y would you even care,so that is my business.........so does that clear it up for you,all you have to do is ask ........................no big deal ,Hey if you want a candy ass cue builder then you are right you wouldn't want one of my cues,it is no secret that i am on my way out of this business.............i make a good cue at a fair price,and if you or anybody don't think so then so be it ,but maybe one day they might see that, maynot............i gave up 6 figures to do this,and wow i made a mistake ,but i can and will start up my old busniess again and be right back were i was,i build cues because i love to build them,and if they sell thats great,the cue business is very bad right now and has been for a year or so........but i am still selling cues,and always can,if i feel like building cues.........my son Cory is going off to College soon and he wanted to try to make some money,and this is the way he though he could ,well i guess that is not going to happen,just a other player ,cuebuilder not making any money.hey i never have sold my cues on this site anyway,also i never will............so no big deal,there is no money in cues anyway.i am only still here because i have some cues to sell and then i am gone............and my son will do what he will he is not like me..........he would have never gone though this,but i love it,i will post cues on this site as gsirca,and when i sell all my cues or not i am gone,but i always have sold my cues and think i will sell most.
 
What's wrong with cutting up house cues!?

Jeez, I was kinda hoping this post would mysteriously vanish :eek:

IMHO, Schmelke has been making some pretty good cues for quite a long time....and, it's my understanding that their full splice blanks are perfectly fine!

We all know there are various suppliers for cue parts.....some maybe better than others without any doubt :rolleyes: go figure!?

However, there is alot of variables involved in putting together a good playing cue and I know you all understand that folks.

Tip/Ferrule combinations, shaft taper, joint/pin combos, weight and balance -- everybody has to start somewhere -- I can't remember.... who were those guys that started cutting up Brunswick "Titilist" house cues again??? :D

Best of luck & Have a great weekend, Ken ;)
 
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gsirca said:
Ok fair question,first my name is greg sirca,that is were the gsirca comes from,also i have a cue company named gscue and my son has came up with moxiecues...............can i not have five companys if i want,i have never started a account as gscue the cue company,and i have nothing to hide ,why over cues............please.......i also have Playsome cues so what..............anybody that has been around for 10 years knows that,so what is your point..
Nice to meet you Mr. Sirca. My name is Craig Sullivan.
Like I said in my previous post, I could care less if you have 50 companies. More power to you. You said all I had to do was ask, so I did. Curiosity got the better of me.


gsirca said:
Hey if you want a candy ass cue builder then you are right you wouldn't want one of my cues,
No need for calling names or knocking work. It has nothing to do with you or anyone else building cues. In fact, I even said I was sure you made a fine cue. My choice in who I do business with has a lot to do with that person's attitude and interaction with others.

Before this thread, if I had seen a cue that you posted and I liked it well enough, I likely would have bought it. Telling people to shut their hole or that they are a candy ass is what makes me look in another direction to do business, not your cues. Reminds me of a kid on a playground.

It always makes a potential customer wonder what the hell they are getting into and if they will be treated that way if they have a problem with their purchase.

This is how all of this looks to me (potential customer) as to what could happen (Joe Blow customer and John Doe cue builder):

Joe: "Sir, I just received my cue from you and the tip came off during shipment"

John: "Shut your hole you candy ass, there was nothing wrong with it when I shipped it."

It may not be the best analogy, but I hope it makes sense. Also, it doesn't have to be pool cues, it can be anything someone is selling.


gsirca said:
i make a good cue at a fair price,and if you or anybody don't think so then so be it ,but maybe one day they might see that, maynot............

I don't dispute that and I surely didn't say that you didn't make a good cue or that your prices weren't fair. Again, I am sure you make a fine cue. I haven't seen your prices, but I am sure they are fine too. In fact, I do like the looks of some of the cues you have previously posted.


gsirca said:
i build cues because i love to build them,and if they sell thats great,the cue business is very bad right now and has been for a year or so........but i am still selling cues,and always can,if i feel like building cues.........

By all means keep building them. If you love what you do, then keep doing it. Yes the cue business is bad now, what isn't?

gsirca said:
my son Cory is going off to College soon and he wanted to try to make some money,and this is the way he though he could ,well i guess that is not going to happen,just a other player ,cuebuilder not making any money.

Seriously, good luck to your son. If he wants to build cues for extra money, so what? Let him do it. I am sure that he can also build a fine cue having learned from you. There's nothing wrong with that.

gsirca said:
let AZ babysit,and you go play some pool

You are right and I should go play some pool.

Seriously, my best wishes to you whether you quit making cues and move on to something else, or you keep building and showing them off here on AZ or anywhere else.

Regards,
Craig
 
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Irish634 said:
Nice to meet you Mr. Sirca. My name is Craig Sullivan.
Like I said in my previous post, I could care less if you have 50 companies. More power to you. You said all I had to do was ask, so I did. Curiosity got the better of me.



No need for calling names or knocking work. It has nothing to do with you or anyone else building cues. In fact, I even said I was sure you made a fine cue. My choice in who I do business with has a lot to do with that person's attitude and interaction with others.

Before this thread, if I had seen a cue that you posted and I liked it well enough, I likely would have bought it. Telling people to shut their hole or that they are a candy ass is what makes me look in another direction to do business, not your cues. Reminds me of a kid on a playground.

It always makes a potential customer wonder what the hell they are getting into and if they will be treated that way if they have a problem with their purchase.

This is how all of this looks to me (potential customer) as to what could happen (Joe Blow customer and John Doe cue builder):

Joe: "Sir, I just received my cue from you and the tip came off during shipment"

John: "Shut your hole you candy ass, there was nothing wrong with it when I shipped it."

It may not be the best analogy, but I hope it makes sense. Also, it doesn't have to be pool cues, it can be anything someone is selling.




I don't dispute that and I surely didn't say that you didn't make a good cue or that your prices weren't fair. Again, I am sure you make a fine cue. I haven't seen your prices, but I am sure they are fine too. In fact, I do like the looks of some of the cues you have previously posted.




By all means keep building them. If you love what you do, then keep doing it. Yes the cue business is bad now, what isn't?



Seriously, good luck to your son. If he wants to build cues for extra money, so what? Let him do it. I am sure that he can also build a fine cue having learned from you. There's nothing wrong with that.



You are right and I should go play some pool.

Seriously, my best wishes to you whether you quit making cues and move on to something else, or you keep building and showing them off here on AZ or anywhere else.

Regards,
Craig
Yeah you are right,i don't care about Pool anymore,should have done this 2 years ago.............pool is dead...........and i have woke up,thanks for the kick start.....................
 
Jazz said:
Professionalism would be to stay out another cue maker's thread with your sarcastic remarks.

I don't care if you make the greatest cue in the world, have a huge following and the choice of world champion or whatever but I continue to find your action on the board "tacky" at best.
Jazz I have to agree with you. I think what you guys are seeing is a hard-working, passionate, dedicated cue-maker pissed off beyond the point of caring what people think of what he says. The whole industry is in a bad state right now wether it be pool playing, pool rooms, cue building or anything else. There are a lot of long-standing, hard-working people out there that are getting fed up with the state of things lately. I mean how much sense does it make when all of these pool rooms are being shut down because they can't afford to pay the rent because their clents can't SMOKE in the building!? Places that have been open 30-40 years or longer are shutting down because bible thumpers want to try to tell all of us "degenerates" (not that that's a bad thing LOL) how we should live our lives and what we should do for fun. I can tell you guys from experience that Greg is a hell of a guy to talk to. You start the interaction by trashing him, he's going to come at you the same way. You come at him with respect, you'll get nothing but the same in return. And as far as his cues go, his work is as good as anyone out there. I'm not out to trash anyone else's work, but seriously how many 4-pointed spliced conversion cues can you look at before they just get old? (That's just my personal opinion - I appreciate the work and the quality, there's just not much there as far as STYLE). To me, and again, this is opinion...the stuff that Greg puts into his cues is bold, it's masculine, it's eye-catching. It's ART! I think we're all missing out on some future gorgeous pieces of art because of how we are acting towards the industry and those involved with it. Some of the threads on here are starting to sound like a damn teen chat room with all the shit talking. Let's get back to the damn point. Let's all appreciate some damn fine hard work and realize that when it all comes down to it, we're all on this site for the love of the game or the cues/tables/rooms, or maybe just the love of the money, but it all gets back to the same place.

Greg, keep up the awesome work. It's sad to see how frustrated you are with things. It's been a pleasure talking to you and I can't wait to get my two new cues from you. Hopefully all of this doesn't sour your son to the biz because he's definitely learning from a master.
 
Club Billiards said:
Jazz I have to agree with you.
Greg I can't wait to get my two new cues from you.

Well that you for the unbiased opinion.:rolleyes:
I'll stand behind Varney cues for speaking the truth. I'll pay for quality and that special hit. Make mine a Varney. (another;) )
 
No Illusions said:
Well that you for the unbiased opinion.:rolleyes:
I'll stand behind Varney cues for speaking the truth. I'll pay for quality and that special hit. Make mine a Varney. (another;) )
Never claimed to be unbiased. Just stating my opinion as a pool player, someone who runs a poolroom and someone who collects and appreciates cues and good hard work.
 
Jazz said:
Professionalism would be to stay out another cue maker's thread with your sarcastic remarks.

I don't care if you make the greatest cue in the world, have a huge following and the choice of world champion or whatever but I continue to find your action on the board "tacky" at best.

Well said sir.................:)
 
Just a couple thoughts here but from what I see it was Greg's son that was building a few cues using Smelke Blanks to raise a little spending money for College .Very admirable IMO and Everybody had to start somewhere.

I'm not really sure why Mr Varney commented the way he did but I believe that quality is in the eye of the beholder. To put it in different terms is you were driving a Yugo a Toyota Corolla might seem like a pretty nice car but if you're used to a BMW 3 series the Toyota is going to seem like a piece of crap.

I have looked at pictures of both GSirca and Mr Varneys cues and have admired both. You both have completely different styles and really don't compete with each other IMO.

Best of luck to all parties especially Greg's son. Build many cues but get the College under your belt that way you always have it to fall back on if cue making ends up not paying the bills.
 
I would have thought Varney would have learned his lesson when people were putting their 2 cents into his cues for sale, and he didn't like it. Just goes to show you the true character of some people.
 
I have used blanks from i think most of the suppliers. Prather, Schmelke, Atlas, Cue components, broken bar cues, they all have their good and bad points. If i find a good one off the rack i will use it. All the suppliers i have ordered from have had some flaw or glue line. Does that make them a bad cue or play bad? Not in my opinion. I can only afford to throw in 1 cent, sorry.
 
I think Gsirca has a new business partner or son ~ BARKCINNAMIN ~ now known as ~ moxiecues ~ A new alias or just to many nicotine patches.

Or could it be Mr. Varney has longer waiting list for cues.

Gsirca announced awhile back that he stopped making cues, listed his last one then a month ago keeps listing new one's and has tried several times to sell his equipment on ebay.

They should move this thread to the Non Pool Related area this thead really has no value in the Cue Gallery.

I cant belive I responded to the thread probably get negative rep points for this post.
 
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