matthew staton
Banned
does any one think the 2 push out rule should come back in 9 ball i heard theses old guys talking about it at the pool hall was there a rule like this or are they just to old to remeber????
push out rule
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Hey I resemble that remark about too old
As a matter of fact in the old days we always played either 1 or 2 push out rule. I am sure all the old schoolers would rather play that way but them someone invented the Texas Express rule for tournaments and t.v. and thats history.
matthew staton said:
As a matter of fact in the old days we always played either 1 or 2 push out rule. I am sure all the old schoolers would rather play that way but them someone invented the Texas Express rule for tournaments and t.v. and thats history.
yes.
In some ways it is more offensive because you can take a little more risk and you can't just look for a lock up safe to get a quick BIH. I don't think people expected as much defense with texas express, but maybe I am wrong. Also might get rid of the jump cue.
In some ways it is more offensive because you can take a little more risk and you can't just look for a lock up safe to get a quick BIH. I don't think people expected as much defense with texas express, but maybe I am wrong. Also might get rid of the jump cue.
matthew staton
Banned
JPB said:
Hey now leave them jump cues alone I love em!!!!!!!!
JPB said:
When two-foul rules stopped and Texas Express became popular is when I gave up both playing and watching nine-ball. You used to see a lot of great shot making and thrilling games where as now I would as soon count flies on a ceiling as watch pro nine-ball.
Dick
matthew staton said:
I would like to see push out in tournament play but it is not really practical, that does not mean it had to disappear altogether. I was very surprised when gamblers began playing one foul and push out just disappeared. Most players today don't even know there is another way to play, many would say a better way.
Well, I grew up playing "shootout" nine ball, in which lots of pushes were permitted. Texas Express is a much more interesting version of the game.
There will always be those willing to reduce the importance of many of nineball's most interesting aspects (defense, kicking and two way shots), just to make sure that there is a slightly diminished luck factor, which would be OK with me ................ as long as I don't have to watch it.
There will always be those willing to reduce the importance of many of nineball's most interesting aspects (defense, kicking and two way shots), just to make sure that there is a slightly diminished luck factor, which would be OK with me ................ as long as I don't have to watch it.
One difference between the old-school players and the new generation of today is being able to make a spot shot AND get position. At a recent 10-ball ring game, the spot shot came into play on many occasions, and though the young'ns were capable of making that spot shot, they did suffer when it came down to getting position.
Keith McCready still maintains today that when he grew up and the two-shot/push-out format was in effect, the East Coast players decided to change the rules because they couldn't beat the West Coast players. [The world according to Keith.
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The only tournament I have seen in recent times which used the two-shot/push-out format was the Trump Marina 10-Ball Challenge in Atlantic City several years ago, which ended up with Canadian Danny Hewitt and Hall of Famer Jim Rempe in the finals, with Danny coming out on top!
JAM
Keith McCready still maintains today that when he grew up and the two-shot/push-out format was in effect, the East Coast players decided to change the rules because they couldn't beat the West Coast players. [The world according to Keith.
]The only tournament I have seen in recent times which used the two-shot/push-out format was the Trump Marina 10-Ball Challenge in Atlantic City several years ago, which ended up with Canadian Danny Hewitt and Hall of Famer Jim Rempe in the finals, with Danny coming out on top!
JAM
JAM said:[The world according to Keith.
Now THAT is funny! Are you gonna catch hell for that?!
Pushout is silly. There is no reason an incoming player should be able to move the CB from where it rests. Keep talking about reinstating it an we are going to do true BIH in 1 pocket too> Eberle will show you!
Hi Randy,randyg said:
Do you remember what year you started using the push-out rule?
Hybrid Approach
I've heard of Sailor's (of Racine) Rules. That's where if your opponent "hooks" you a push out is allowed like in 2 foul. But during your own turn at the table it is like 1 foul since you must always make a good hit. I think that makes for a much better game of 9-ball.
Duane
I've heard of Sailor's (of Racine) Rules. That's where if your opponent "hooks" you a push out is allowed like in 2 foul. But during your own turn at the table it is like 1 foul since you must always make a good hit. I think that makes for a much better game of 9-ball.
Duane
2 shot push out
I would like also to see the 2 shot push out come back and spot all balls on cue ball scratches and if the the object ball was in the kitchen it had to be spotted also. Make them shoot the spot shot and play position.IMHO it really allowed a player to play to his strengths and compound their opponents weaknesses. Example, if a player was a better bank player than a fine cut down the rail, you could push out to force the other player into accepting the shot our giving it back.
On another note I can't remember how many times I made the 9 and scratched and the other player missed the spot shot. Just my .02
I think Texas Express turned the game into to much defense and you don't really see the offensive shot making display of the old!!!!
I don't know Jackshit though, but I would like to see the old way come back!
NO-SHO
I would like also to see the 2 shot push out come back and spot all balls on cue ball scratches and if the the object ball was in the kitchen it had to be spotted also. Make them shoot the spot shot and play position.IMHO it really allowed a player to play to his strengths and compound their opponents weaknesses. Example, if a player was a better bank player than a fine cut down the rail, you could push out to force the other player into accepting the shot our giving it back.
On another note I can't remember how many times I made the 9 and scratched and the other player missed the spot shot. Just my .02
I think Texas Express turned the game into to much defense and you don't really see the offensive shot making display of the old!!!!
I don't know Jackshit though, but I would like to see the old way come back!
NO-SHO
2 push out rules ...
Instead on just 1 push out after the break, each player
has the option to push out on each turn at the table.
If the opposing player gave back the shot, and the player
fouls in any way, then the opposing player has ball in hand.
Many times though, this would end up being a battle of wits.
with the more experienced player coming out on top because
of more knowledge about the game and his opponent and
his own abilities.
CaptainJR said:
Instead on just 1 push out after the break, each player
has the option to push out on each turn at the table.
If the opposing player gave back the shot, and the player
fouls in any way, then the opposing player has ball in hand.
Many times though, this would end up being a battle of wits.
with the more experienced player coming out on top because
of more knowledge about the game and his opponent and
his own abilities.