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I do think some elevated filler to this god level prematurely. You can say he won the euro and the derby recently. However Fred was winning the US open and world title all while appearing in more finals
 
I do think some elevated filler to this god level prematurely. You can say he won the euro and the derby recently. However Fred was winning the US open and world title all while appearing in more finals

hardly. he's won everything under the sun (and not only derby, euro this year but also buffalos) and at his normal speed he's the best player in the world. losing to players this weak suggests something else is off.
 
I do think some elevated filler to this god level prematurely. You can say he won the euro and the derby recently. However Fred was winning the US open and world title all while appearing in more finals
This reads like the post of someone who just woke up from a one-year nap.

Obviously, you missed 2025. Filler won the Derby City 9ball, the Estonia Open, the European Open, and the Longoni Open, all of them against giant, elite, fields. For good measure, he also won the biggest one pocket event of the year at Buffalo Billiards. Fedor does not have even one title in either 9ball or 10ball in 2025.

In the past year, I can remember only these five matchups between Filler and Gorst:

Challenge of Champions, 10ball, won by Filler
Challenge of Champions 9ball, won by Filler
Derby City Bank Pool, won by Gorst
Derby city One Pocket, won by Gorst
Derby City 9ball, won by Filler

It's a long time since Gorst beat Filler in a rotation game. Still, as we see, he prevailed in the fringe games against Josh, and I doubt I'm alone in believing Fedor to be a slight favorite for Master of the Table at the 2026 Derby City Classic.

Agreed that Josh has had a bad second half of 2025, just like Fedor, but unlike Fedor, Josh had a great first half. I hope we'll get their best soon. They are generational talents, so it seems likely.

That said, Filler has the best resume of major titles of any 28-year-old in the 9ball era by a mile. Perhaps you did not know that Josh has already won the World 9ball, the US Open 9ball, three China Open 9ball, a World 8ball, a UK Open, a European Open, and a Qatar Open. He has further won the World Pool Masters, the World Cup of Pool, the WPA World Team Championship, the American 14.1 Championship and the Derby City Master of the Table. If he retires tomorrow, he's a top ten player of all time.

Fedor's resume of major titles pales by comparison to that of Josh.
 
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don't know how the hell they choose matches. either way they picked türkü vs oi, over moritz vs albin and feijen vs soufi and other better matches
 
don't know how the hell they choose matches. either way they picked türkü vs oi, over moritz vs albin and feijen vs soufi and other better matches
Yeah, Moritz vs Albin is very intriguing. Nobody is hotter than Moritz, but Albin is coming off the great win at the World 8-ball and seems to have found his best form again. I'm less interested in Feijen vs Soufi.

Still, I'm always OK seeing a Cinderella like Turku get a chance to make a name for himself and Naoyuki is always entertaining to watch.
 
don't know how the hell they choose matches. either way they picked türkü vs oi, over moritz vs albin and feijen vs soufi and other better matches
Here is a guess. This way the organizers finally prevent Naoyuki from streaming, lol.
In reality, they should have picked any other match for Table 1, so that people get at least two streams (QBSF and Oi's).
 
This reads like the post of someone who just woke up from a one-year nap.

Obviously, you missed 2025. Filler won the Derby City 9ball, the Estonia Open, the European Open, and the Longoni Open, all of them against giant, elite, fields. For good measure, he also won the biggest one pocket event of the year at Buffalo Billiards. Fedor does not have even one title in either 9ball or 10ball in 2025.

In the past year, I can remember only these five matchups between Filler and Gorst:

Challenge of Champions, 10ball, won by Filler
Challenge of Champions 9ball, won by Filler
Derby City Bank Pool, won by Gorst
Derby city One Pocket, won by Gorst
Derby City 9ball, won by Filler

It's a long time since Gorst beat Filler in a rotation game. Still, as we see, he prevailed in the fringe games against Josh, and I doubt I'm alone in believing Fedor to be a slight favorite for Master of the Table at the 2026 Derby City Classic.

Agreed that Josh has had a bad second half of 2025, just like Fedor, but unlike Fedor, Josh had a great first half. I hope we'll get their best soon. They are generational talents, so it seems likely.

That said, Filler has the best resume of major titles of any 28-year-old in the 9ball era by a mile. Perhaps you did not know that Josh has already won the World 9ball, the US Open 9ball, three China Open 9ball, a World 8ball, a UK Open, a European Open, and a Qatar Open. He has further won the World Pool Masters, the World Cup of Pool, the WPA World Team Championship, the American 14.1 Championship and the Derby City Master of the Table. If he retires tomorrow, he's a top ten player of all time.

Fedor's resume of major titles pales by comparison to that of Josh
Fair, I'll stand down and mark it as a bad second half as you suggested. I was aware of his 2019 US open, world 9 ball in 18. My point is the rhetoric is often such hyperbole, you'd think he never loses or is always in the final 4
 
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Fair, I'll stand down and mark it as a bad second half as you suggested. I was aware of his 2019 US open, world 9 ball in 18. My point is the rhetoric is often such hyperbole, you'd think he never loses or is always in the final 4
Even so, you are not off base. Josh and Fedor are in slumps and there is no getting away from it. As I've noted earlier in this thread, for the moment they are both looking up at Yapp, winner of three straight WNT majors, for player of the year.

Many of us, me included, came to view Josh and Fedor, considered in tandem, as having a near monopoly on the top spot, but we have recently seen guys like Yapp, Neuhausen, and Labutis shining at the WNT majors and it does call for a reexamination of where things stand.

There are more challengers at the majors than I have seen in my fifty years around the pro game. Personally, I think it is a good thing. The continuing globalization of the game has highly skilled players popping up in every corner of the globe. This (meaning 2020-present) is a difficult era in which to mass produce majors, and that is not likely to change.

It's gonna be fun to watch!
 
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it's been spoken of the pool tour(s) having such a spread of winners, no real main characters, etc. they're having the same thing in snooker now, 10 different winners in the latest 10 tournaments. obviously not from as many different countries, but still more globalized than ever. the level of the "second" tier has risen in both sports
 
it's been spoken of the pool tour(s) having such a spread of winners, no real main characters, etc. they're having the same thing in snooker now, 10 different winners in the latest 10 tournaments. obviously not from as many different countries, but still more globalized than ever. the level of the "second" tier has risen in both sports
Very well said.
 
The video production is mostly OK, but the director needs to time his camera changes better. On the break shots, the camera switches from foot rail to overhead when the cue ball is half way to the one ball. This makes it very hard to track specific balls. There are a few other camera choices that are badly timed. I think you need a director who watches pool.
 
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