I concede, I must be mistaken , Mikjary will send a PM
Have a great day
Sincerely: SS
Have a great day
Sincerely: SS
Question about intentional swerve
- Thread starter bdorman
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Cueing low? Looks like at the upper limit of high to me. Right about where the stripe would be on a striped ball.
Greg,
Did you not say in another thread that there is a lot of area on a 9' table that would allow for an 'up stroke'?
Best 2 You & All,
Rick
I'm not understanding your picture...where are the edges of the cb so I can see it??
He said he was hitting below center. Below center means that you take the angle of the cue straight through the center of the cb. Anthing below that line is below center, anything above that line is above center.
Now, if he was just referring to below the horizontal center line compared to the table, then yes, one can on some shots hit below that and get follow. But, that is not hitting below center of the cb.
The key part of the word, "upstroke" is, "up". Where did his stroke start and what type of reaction did he get from the cue ball?
Glad you noticed his tip was at the miscue limit...and without miscuing! Or is it better to first address the cue at the miscue upper limit and then try for a power stroke? Hmmm?
Best,
Mike
He said he was hitting below center. Below center means that you take the angle of the cue straight through the center of the cb. Anthing below that line is below center, anything above that line is above center.
Now, if he was just referring to below the horizontal center line compared to the table, then yes, one can on some shots hit below that and get follow. But, that is not hitting below center of the cb.
Does your post answer my question that was directed to Greg?
Hi MIke,
Would that not be sort of like TOI?
Increasing the margin for error in one direction?:wink:
Best,
Rick
Lots of real good players cue low when hitting high english just as they cue left to use right english and vice versa. It helps you to stay closer to center CB while applying english
A lot of people think they are hitting CCB when they are actually hitting slightly above CCB. This could be because the eyes are looking down on the tip and also possibly because the perception of CCB from the eye position is higher that CCB surface point relative to the line of cue.
Combine this with the fact that a touch of follow quickly turns into natural roll, especially on slow to medium speed shots and I think we can see why people think they are getting follow instantly from lower CB striking.
Combine this with the fact that a touch of follow quickly turns into natural roll, especially on slow to medium speed shots and I think we can see why people think they are getting follow instantly from lower CB striking.
For most, yes, for you, apparently not.
What did SmoothStroke say about the direction of his stroke for the shoot he was talking about?
I asked Greg a question.
You answered nothing that was being asked.
I know what you're doing & others know too.
May God Bless & Help You, Neil.
PS If I'm mistaken & you were truly trying to be helpful in stating the rather obvious in your 1st. paragraph & ???? in your 2nd. paragraph, then I apologize for my mistake.
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Here is a pic of my cue laying on a table. According to Neil there is no way to use upstroke on a pool table. This means that there are no shooting positions that will allow for a cue to be inside the rails therefore allowing the butt to be lowered to touching the table.
Lets just take that 7 up to almost the corner left pocket. Now place the CB just pass the end of my stick, bout the same distance off the rail as the 7 in the pic.
Go ahead and tell the world Neil that no one can up stroke in that shooting position I just described using the pic.
Lets just take that 7 up to almost the corner left pocket. Now place the CB just pass the end of my stick, bout the same distance off the rail as the 7 in the pic.
Go ahead and tell the world Neil that no one can up stroke in that shooting position I just described using the pic.
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Talked to good friend of mine that reinged me in some... Maybe an upstroke doesn't do any more than a level stroke but with downward cueing angles creating an upstroke is easier than trying to come thru level based on that original angle.... Pool science isn't even close to any other sport science disciplines so I will leave it at that until we decisive answers and credible sources... I will still be hitting up thru the ball but since I never hit level thru the ball anyway I can say maybe they are exactly the same in cueball reaction........
It would be nice to get a discussion going about something in the physical pool universe without somebody telling you everything has already been discovered, dissected, analyzed, and perfected already, so move along.
Those Filipino hacks are ruining the status quo. :grin-square: And now look at what's happened to Shane's game! If Efren came on this board, he'd be leaving with his hat in his hand and his tail between his legs in less than a week. :wink:
Best,
Mike
As I said before, I was responding to a particual video clip in a post. Not to all shots on a table. Sorry that keeping up with the actual conversation was lost on you, Rick, and anyone else. Again, just in case you missed it again, my reply was to what was posted in the conversation. Not to any shot imaginable. Sheesh, do try and keep up with the conversations around here and stop putting words into others mouths to try and make them look stupid. It only makes you look stupid.
Don't really know why I bothered, because you are only going to see what you want to see...but here is a pick of his final stroke, just before he hits the cb. Notice that it is on a level plane with exactly where he hits. His warmup strokes were at about a center ball hit. His final stroke is on line with where he wants to hit.
