Question about Triangle tip

jed1894

jed1894

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I have Joss shaft with Triangle tip. Came with perfect shape and feel....kind of hard. I had a cue repairman put a triangle on another joss shaft and it feels and looks different. The 2nd one is softer like it needs breaking in. Feels spongy. I would like it hard like the other one.

Any suggestions on how I could fix this. I have no lathe.

Thanks, jed
 
You will probably get much better results by posting this question in the "Ask the Cuemaker" section.

However I believe the original tip may have been pressed. Best tip in my opinion.




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CMD said:
You will probably get much better results by posting this question in the "Ask the Cuemaker" section.

However I believe the original tip may have been pressed. Best tip in my opinion.




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I was afraid of that (pressed tip). Nothing I can do, I guess, except replace tip. I wonder if Joss cues uses the pressed tip method? The tip just looks totally different than the one I had put on ...

jed
 
The sides of triangles on Joss sticks have been dressed somehow to make them stronger. The sides also appear much darker than normal. I wish I knew how they do it. I always played great with a new Joss shaft. I loved the old Joss sneaky petes.
 
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BlindWizard said:
The sides of triangles on Joss sticks have been dressed somehow to make them stronger. The sides also appear much darker than normal. I wish I knew how they do it. I always played great with a new Joss shaft. I loved the old Joss sneaky petes.
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Just a guess, they may have used a Sharpie to darken the sides. We used to do that back in the day before burnishing the tip. A friend of mine just had a Kamui put on his cue and the repair guy didn't burnish the sides at all.

As for the OP's question, fixing the sides, sharpie it up, Break with it a few times, 20 times or so, (or you can tap it down with a hammer or use a wall if you're in a hurry. trim the tip if it mushrooms then use some spit and a piece of leather to burnish the sides. If you trim it down and burnish it, it's most likely going to reduce the amount of mushrooming from the start.
 
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Joss has been using diffrent types of tips besides triangle there is a liquid out that one uses to burnish tips i doubt joss is using a sharpie.

Joss is even using wizzard tips and i think at one point years ago they were using sumo tips.


But to the OP the cue guy that put your tip one might have a bad tip or even put the wrong tip on and the tip from joss can very well be a champion tip. Infact im pretty sure it was a champion tip.
 
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BlindWizard said:
The sides of triangles on Joss sticks have been dressed somehow to make them stronger. The sides also appear much darker than normal. I wish I knew how they do it. I always played great with a new Joss shaft. I loved the old Joss sneaky petes.
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Exactly. I guess I could send my other shaft to Dan and have him tune it up.
 
dr9ball said:
Just a guess, they may have used a Sharpie to darken the sides. We used to do that back in the day before burnishing the tip. A friend of mine just had a Kamui put on his cue and the repair guy didn't burnish the sides at all.

As for the OP's question, fixing the sides, sharpie it up, Break with it a few times, 20 times or so, (or you can tap it down with a hammer or use a wall if you're in a hurry. trim the tip if it mushrooms then use some spit and a piece of leather to burnish the sides. If you trim it down and burnish it, it's most likely going to reduce the amount of mushrooming from the start.
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I might try that. I wonder if the sharpie would help with mushrooming?
 
jed1894 said:
I might try that. I wonder if the sharpie would help with mushrooming?
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NO the sharpie won't help but the burnishing will.

Some people use superglue on the sides after burnishing.

I didn't like that sometimes you have to experiment.
 
The odds are that the one you had put on was a bad one. Triangles are becoming very similar to the old LePros. With the LePros you could go through a box of fifty and get quite a few bad ones. Have another Triangle put on.
 
There was a time when Triangles did seem pretty spongy (say around 2005 give or take). Then later they went back to being harder. If the guy has a stock of Triangles from this period, that would do it. He could put a new one on for you after pressing it. I guess some folks are pressing the harder Triangles even. I like having my own tips and giving them to the installer.

Fatz
 
jed1894 said:
I have Joss shaft with Triangle tip. Came with perfect shape and feel....kind of hard. I had a cue repairman put a triangle on another joss shaft and it feels and looks different. The 2nd one is softer like it needs breaking in. Feels spongy. I would like it hard like the other one.

Any suggestions on how I could fix this. I have no lathe.

Thanks, jed
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Replace the tip. Out of a box, there might be several that have no chance at ever being any good without a lot of cuemaker love.
 
Pushout said:
The odds are that the one you had put on was a bad one. Triangles are becoming very similar to the old LePros. With the LePros you could go through a box of fifty and get quite a few bad ones. Have another Triangle put on.
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Absolutely. There is no consistency among the tips in a box of Triangles, LePros, or Elkmasters. I try to cherry pick the best ones but I still end up cutting off some and starting over. QC sucks... :cool:
 
dr9ball said:
Just a guess, they may have used a Sharpie to darken the sides. We used to do that back in the day before burnishing the tip. A friend of mine just had a Kamui put on his cue and the repair guy didn't burnish the sides at all.

As for the OP's question, fixing the sides, sharpie it up, Break with it a few times, 20 times or so, (or you can tap it down with a hammer or use a wall if you're in a hurry. trim the tip if it mushrooms then use some spit and a piece of leather to burnish the sides. If you trim it down and burnish it, it's most likely going to reduce the amount of mushrooming from the start.
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I always burnish the sides with a damp paper towel and these use Hightowers shaft sealer on the ferrule and sides of the tip. Really makes the tip look nice. I never liked the look of the sharpie method. :cool:
 
When i install a new triangle on my cue, I usually break with it a few times or if i have time at home I beat on the tip with a cueball. The tips to be pressed down. After that trim off the mushroomed side and burnish.
 
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