Questions for Mike with FargoRate
- Thread starter Tin Man
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For someone who is running out 18% of the time in their 8 ball matches, I would expect a much higher Fargo. Do you only run out in APA matches and not in anything that reports to Fargo?
I gotcha. I do remember seeing people ask about the platform rather than the data. Have there been no responses? Not even a "none of your business?"
I'll start paying more attention. I also love fargo.
I'm totally willing to accept that I've missed some "not math validation" answers provided by Fargo(Mike). However because I am such a Fargo fanboy I tend to pay pretty close attention in hopes he will drop such nuggets of intel. During my years of doing so here on AZB all I've ever witnessed is radio silence.
No one needs to go any further than this very thread for proof. A dozen or so inquires without comment, until someone questions the math. Not that those inquires were directly asked of Mike mind you, but they're all there without response or activity.
On the upside I did notice today that the webpage (not app) has a new green font and a new logo. Exciting updates....
Willowbrook Wolfy
Going pro
Truth is. I have better offense than defense and Fargorate is also a work in progress. My tournament play has been less than ideal. I like to drink. League only last 3-4 hours and is on Sunday afternoon. Tournaments run 6-7 hours at night. That’s not only a better time but a lot more time to drink and why my league stats are better. I have cooled it down as of late. 30 or 40 of those fargorate games I can’t recall. Went on a 0-10 run one night when I was falling over tables. Plus, for whatever reason, I keep getting slammed against the 600+’s in tournaments. Those are the same guys I play for cash and am only like 15-50 against them in tournaments.
For reference and in all fairness. Looking at the players with 2000+ robustness I play for cash instead of in tournaments my fargorate would be in the 580-620 range. A 561 did give me a go last week but we ended up splitting sets. So maybe 560 on the low end. A 500-525 usually has no chance against me without a spot. Two days ago I split sets with a 620 and I came out on top last time we played. The one 600 asks for a game sometimes. Plus my APA rating would suggest I’m at least a 550.
I don’t know why I just explained all that. I tried before and got harassed about it. That’s why im sticking with the 478 now. if that’s what people want to believe go ahead. I’m not here to bullshit people and talk myself up. I just need to start putting up wins against 600+s and the Fargorate should follow.
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My tournament play has been less than ideal. I like to drink.
This isn't a FargoRate problem. If you give it drunk garbage games into the system, then it will give a garbage rating out.
Willowbrook Wolfy
Going pro
Hey man. I know that. It’s just other people on this forum don’t get that when I try to explain it to them. They think I’m trying to talk myself up. I’m the guy that drinks for free a lot of times when playing for the cash.
But lately I’ve been having a few and switching to coffee. Took 3rd in a tournament a couple weeks ago, and on new years took 2nd after beating a 580 a 600 and going hill/hill with another low 600. Figures though. That one didn’t get reported. It was an APA tournament. I’ve been a tournament monster as of late with drinking less and been able to drive home too!.
Regarding the bolded point above, who was harassing you? I remember trying to explain that your rating isn't based on how you play, but how often you win. Not saying this is your case, but if someone is a great player, but gets drunk and wins at a 450 rate, then that player is a 450 fargo. Fargo doesn't care about how good we all think we are.
When did that happen? A fairly short time ago, there were only three!
Willowbrook Wolfy
Going pro
Well that’s right. But in that respect on avg any player can play up or down 100 balls on any given day(supposedly). If the only games going into fargorate system are when that player is playing at their worst they can be around 100 points off and play 200 over their rating on any given day too.
Hopefully mine levels out to at least the low 500’s before any big handicapped tournaments happen. Seems like rates are a lot more accurate for players with a couple thousand games anyway.
Willowbrook Wolfy
Going pro
And another point with the numbers on those tournament players playing 100 points above their listed. Fargorate isn’t an exact science and people are aware that fargorates are normally accurate within 50 points. Therefore those players playing 100 points over might actually only be playing 50 over with their fargorate 50 points lower than it should be. I’m sure it does happen sometimes.
Honestly, just take pride in being the world's first reverse league player! (sober for leagues, drunk for tournaments). Normally this one is the other way around, especially playing APA.
My tournament performance is also usually trash, I don't have my nerves settled for tournaments where I'm in a bit more control in league play. I like to drink but I don't think I've played "drunk" in a few years. The good thing is I'm now doing USAPL, so my league winning % is helped by my poor tournament play.
You're in a good spot to go find and play in any 550 and under tournament you can find.....but pick the one that starts early so there is less drinking involved.