Quick ? about VA state championship

JMS

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I'm not trying to take anything away from whoever won. But I heard from a good friend of mine that only players that lived in Virginia were allowed to compete in this tournament. Is that true? If so that is one of the stupidest things I've heard of.
 
I'm not trying to take anything away from whoever won. But I heard from a good friend of mine that only players that lived in Virginia were allowed to compete in this tournament. Is that true? If so that is one of the stupidest things I've heard of.

Why is it stupid to have a state champion that lives in that state?
 
Why is it stupid to have a state champion that lives in that state?

Easy-e I see where your coming from, but it would almost be like telling the Europeans and Asians that they can't compete in the US Open???? That way we can crown an American champ.
 
I'm not trying to take anything away from whoever won. But I heard from a good friend of mine that only players that lived in Virginia were allowed to compete in this tournament. Is that true? If so that is one of the stupidest things I've heard of.

Why? Because the TD is trying to identify the best player from the state? You have a case if it were called the Virginia Open because then, in theory, it would be open to everyone including those outside the state, even outside the country.

Why do you consider it stupid? The tournament had a full field, was supported by players from every area of the state and both finalists won paid entry into the US Open 9 Ball Championships. The winner was Brandon Shuff, no slouch of a player, he won against some very stiff competition. What's your beef?

Brian in VA
 
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Hence "The Virginia State Champion". I don't get it. Why would this bother you? If I hold the Sharkey's Open, you must hang out in Sharkey's. Hey, I have an idea.
 
It makes sense to me that you'd have to be a resident, but I understand the confusion since there are plenty of "State Championships" that don't require residency. JPNEWT just held the NJ State Championship this past weekend (Karen Corr of PA won).
 
Out of curiosity, when a pool room/promoter runs a "state championiship" do they generally have a tradmark, etc. on the use of that name so that numerous "state championships" could not be run in different pool halls, etc? Thanks.
 
As another poster said it is not the Virginia Open it is the Virginia State Championship. As such the tournament director requires players to be residents of Virginia.

His tournament, his rules.

Easy-e I see where your coming from, but it would almost be like telling the Europeans and Asians that they can't compete in the US Open???? That way we can crown an American champ.
 
Here's a cut & paste from the Tournament Director's (JMD in VA) reply to the same type of question last YEAR.

"I chose to limit the competator's of the State Tournament to VA and DC for 2 reasons:

1) I feel that the State Champion should live in the state they are the champion of.

2) I included D.C. in the event because they are not included in anything. They are not a state, have no representation and cannot vote on matters involving them.

These are the reason's the tournament is limited as it is. For all of those who are offended by this, even the ones who do not deserve it, I apologize for that."

Hope this helps..........
 
Out of curiosity, when a pool room/promoter runs a "state championiship" do they generally have a tradmark, etc. on the use of that name so that numerous "state championships" could not be run in different pool halls, etc? Thanks.

Here in Arizona the "state championship" has been copy writed I beleive. There are different championships for 9ft and bar box. I'm not sure if Ron Merseal posts on here but I am pretty sure he went through the court system to make sure he had rights to the state championships. Maybe Mike Howerton or Jerry Stuckart could chime in here.......
 
I'm not trying to take anything away from whoever won. But I heard from a good friend of mine that only players that lived in Virginia were allowed to compete in this tournament. Is that true? If so that is one of the stupidest things I've heard of.

I lived in nj for 40 years and go back to see family every 6 months. I played pool at mizerak's place in metechen when hopkins ran the register up front. I dont think anyone cares where your from in nj because the only real people who where from nj have moved the hell outa there,. between the taxes,insurance cost,housing,etc who the hell would want to stay!!!!!!!!!!! I miss the food but its one big melting pot with most people speaking a foreign language there. Go ahead and roast me but growing up in nj and hanging out at the shore where the best but now when I visit I can't wait to get the hell outa there and back to VA! Besides...why would some one want to be champion of a state they dont live in to begin with,maybe they cant beat the local crowd where they live?:smile:
 
AS a player in all of the Va State championships , it is my opinion that this original post was one of the stupidist things I have ever heard of.
 
Maybe if each US State had their own championship, limited it to only players from their state, and gave the top two spots a paid entry into the US Open, we would have every state represented in the field of the biggest, most prestigious pool tournament. Thus promote our sport even more!!;)
 
Here in Arizona the "state championship" has been copy writed I beleive. There are different championships for 9ft and bar box. I'm not sure if Ron Merseal posts on here but I am pretty sure he went through the court system to make sure he had rights to the state championships. Maybe Mike Howerton or Jerry Stuckart could chime in here.......

You are right Chris! Many years ago there was confusion of different people trying to run said "State Championships". Ron, the former owner of Alexander's in Phoenix, went through the courts and now owns the full rights to a bunch of different names. ie. Arizona State 10-ball Barbox Championship, Arizona State 10-ball Championship, etc.

It is also my understanding that this covers any tournament that is similar in name.

Ron has let Dennis Orender use a couple of the DesertClassicTour.com events to run as a normal stop on the tour but also be the State Championship. There is no restriction on the tour for players that they have to be Arizona Residence.

I do feel that the Virginia State Championship has every right to have a State Tournament limited to residents.

The NCS tournaments that are going on now have limited entry to US citizens only. I had to turn Darren Appleton away back in January when I ran the 8-ball qualifier which Mike Williams and Mitch Ellerman both won entries to Vegas.

Coincidentally, Brandon also won this event.
 
I don't see any problem with a VA state championships that are limited to residents only. It's a privately owned/operated event and if the promoter wants to do something like that, whats the big deal?


Eric
 
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