Quick question about Diamond table pricing and shipping.

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cleary said:
Can someone explain the difference between red label and blue label?
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He converts the rail from red label engineering to blue label engineering.
5 days of RKC company....you guys must of had a grill master BBQ pit outback or something..maybe there was a Popeyes chicken near by with plenty of parking...LOL'



Rob.M
 
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branpureza said:
Thank you for the offer but I am probably going to purchase a new one in black.

I also don't close on my new home until Feb 1st as it is currently under construction.

I appreciate the offer though! :smile:
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My favorite table is the Professional, not the Pro-Am, in black. The style of the legs is different. Some of the pictures on Diamond's website of the Professional are 20 years old, and not the current style.

Another food for thought, I'm an attention to details guy, and if you get a black table, it is oak wood, that is painted black. It looks ok, but not superb IMO. The reason is, oak has very open pores, and you see them come through in the black finish. If I was getting a black table, I would personally pay the extra $400 or so to upgrade the wood from oak to maple. Maple is a very closed pore wood, and the black finish will look way better on maple, IMO.

Note, I'm a woodworker, and this type of stuff really jumps out at me. For the average person, they may never notice a difference:)
 
branpureza said:
2000? Jesus.

I'm building a home now and it will have a 16'X24' loft/gameroom.

Can't wait to have my own table!
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Brandon,
if it is a loft and open to the downstairs, it can go up and over. I had a 22 ft, solid shuffle board in my game room. The cradle and feet are out and I am trying to find the right crew to get it down. The install took 12 guys with ropes etc and a front end loader. Wih furniture and stuff in the house, it will be tricky not to damage anything.

If yours is a loft set up, professional mover ought to do it, but it will be $$$

Good luck,
BR
Phil
 
cleary said:
Can someone explain the difference between red label and blue label?
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The red labels were the older tables. The angles on the rails are different and they bank a lil shorter than normal. I bought one of these in 2007 and it still plays great.
The blue labels are the newer tables, I think they started these in 2011? Diamond changed the rail angles so they would bank better.
Some guys have paid tons of money to get their red label tables converted so they play like a blue label. I'm keeping mine the way it is.......unless your just playing bank pool, you probably would never notice.
 
I would never choose a blue label over my red label table. I love it. Both are great though! Red will make you a better player.
 
iusedtoberich said:
My favorite table is the Professional, not the Pro-Am, in black. The style of the legs is different. Some of the pictures on Diamond's website of the Professional are 20 years old, and not the current style.

Another food for thought, I'm an attention to details guy, and if you get a black table, it is oak wood, that is painted black. It looks ok, but not superb IMO. The reason is, oak has very open pores, and you see them come through in the black finish. If I was getting a black table, I would personally pay the extra $400 or so to upgrade the wood from oak to maple. Maple is a very closed pore wood, and the black finish will look way better on maple, IMO.

Note, I'm a woodworker, and this type of stuff really jumps out at me. For the average person, they may never notice a difference:)
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This is very helpful and you make some good points about the wood. I'm VERY particular about the esthetics of the table and the wood upgrade would definitely be worth it to me. I really wish I could get one in Dymondwood. Maybe I'll be able to find a used one in like-new condition somewhere.

Thanks so much,
B.
 
branpureza said:
This is very helpful and you make some good points about the wood. I'm VERY particular about the esthetics of the table and the wood upgrade would definitely be worth it to me. I really wish I could get one in Dymondwood. Maybe I'll be able to find a used one in like-new condition somewhere.

Thanks so much,
B.
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They usually have tournament used tables right after the Derby in Jan. I would ck with Diamond and see. Glen plates and cuts the slate into 3 pieces, and that may be an option from the factory now, the big problem with the 1 piece is fitting it through the doors and hall ways to get it where you want it. I would assume you would have to take the cabinet apart also.
Mark
 
branpureza said:
Anyone have a ballpark idea of how much a new 9-foot Pro-Am would be?

Also shipping and installation to Raleigh, NC.

And lastly has anyone ever moved a single piece slate, fully assembled table upstairs?

Thanks in advance.
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The problem isn't going up the stairs. It's the amount of room at the bottom and top of the stairs. Is there enough room for the table to make the turn, if there is a turn at the top/bottom. Or is it a straight shot into the room?
 
branpureza said:
This is very helpful and you make some good points about the wood. I'm VERY particular about the esthetics of the table and the wood upgrade would definitely be worth it to me. I really wish I could get one in Dymondwood. Maybe I'll be able to find a used one in like-new condition somewhere.

Thanks so much,
B.
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We've been waiting on the word for a while that diamond would get a new supplier of diamond wood since the last one has a factory burn down.

The last tournament of champions on ESPN had a diamond table in the traditional dark oak color diamond wood. So I assumed they were making them again instead of the black pressed paper diamond wood rails they've been making the last few years. I am not a really big fan of those.
 
branpureza said:
Thank you for the offer but I am probably going to purchase a new one in black.

I also don't close on my new home until Feb 1st as it is currently under construction.

I appreciate the offer though! :smile:
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They may have something by then, but i wouldn't hold my breath.. and if they do, there's probably going to be a wait.

Cardigan Kid said:
Looks like they do have diamond wood back and in various colors....

3. RAILS
Unique Dymondwood® that is burn and dent resistant. Phenolic resin pressed into the material gives the wood its durability and luster. Dymondwood® is available in 4 different colors; Rosewood, Charcoal, Walnut, and Golden Oak.

http://www.diamondbilliards.com/CommercialTables/ProAm.aspx
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Afaik, that's just old info. I've heard here and there about sample product, but that's it. Closest ive found is stained oak that will require a little more care for commercial use. I've seen a few go up on craigslist, though, and they don't last long.
 
pool101 said:
They usually have tournament used tables right after the Derby in Jan. I would ck with Diamond and see. Glen plates and cuts the slate into 3 pieces, and that may be an option from the factory now, the big problem with the 1 piece is fitting it through the doors and hall ways to get it where you want it. I would assume you would have to take the cabinet apart also.

Mark
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My new Diamond Professional should be delivered in about a week and a half. When I was placing my order in April we discussed possibly buying a refurbished one. You have to buy those COD. The overall package was a little more affordable but I had less control over the table. Most were returns from pool halls or tournaments. So the choice of wood and the style of the legs could not be changed. They would sand down stain and refinish the color for you. I ended up buying new because I wanted Cherry with brown stain to match the rest of my basement. My professional has four legs instead of the pedestals. I'm really excited for mine to arrive. Happy hunting I hope you get the one you want. I have not seen to many used ones in my area.
 
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