The black case appears to have a much larger lower pouch.
What's up with that?
Best,
Brian kc
What's up with that?
Best,
Brian kc
Racist Cue Case
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Ditto.......
How come most cases are black? Anyone want to explain the conspiracy behind this.....?
Well I have to say that Delta Sport and their case maker get the award for unintended marketing move of the year!
Who would have thought that they would get so much debate over what they most assuredly saw as a simple religious themed case?
I made this case for a customer who lives in a land with a lot of Muslims. No one really connects this symbol with the Inquisition where people were tortured and then murdered by the "Church" if they did not comply with Church doctrine, no one gets upset with the person who carries this case because the Catholic churche's employees have systematically raped young boys throughout it's existence, among many other atrocities:
I made this one for a guy who is fond of the virtues he feels that the Knights Templar exemplify. However some people see this and think of the thousands of Muslims the Crusaders, including the Knights Templar, slaughtered in cold blood while trying to find a fabled Christian relic:
This one shows off Chinese spirtuality:
The Ancient Eygptians were fond of killing people for sacrifice to their gods, and they enslaved millions of Jews to build their pyramids or so goes the movie version:
The point being that we can all find negativity in any symbol.
It's the yin/yang of life. It's what you choose to do with it when you see it that defines you. I found out about the history of the Swastika years ago and how Hitler and the Nazis co-opted it.
So what? They don't get to keep it forever. Their version of it is just one possible meaning attached to it. It's like the terrorists who have co-opted "jihad" and made it so that most people think that jihad means waging a "war" against non-believers to the point of murdering them for their non-belief. That's NOT what it means and to give in to it gives it power.
This is why black people adopted nigger and use it amongst themselves as a way of greeting and bonding. When a black guy says that's my nigger or nigga then he is saying clearly this is my great friend. As opposed to the way white slave owners used it 150 years ago to say, that's my nigger as in I own him. Now black people could have allowed that term to be erased from their own vocabulary but they didn't, they made it something that they own, something that white people who don't have a bad thought in their mind about black people are AFRAID to say for fear of giving offense. Well white people should be afraid to say it unless they are using it because they have been immersed in black culture and use it naturally. Black culture earned, unwillingly, the right to take a word used by whites racists and own it for themselves.
By the same token I find that people shouldn't really use religious symbols of other cultures unless they really understand them.
BUT
At the end of the say as Lenny Bruce said, it's all just words and pictures. It doesn't MEAN anything unless you give it power and breath life into it. We grant far too much power to symbols and doctrine.
If you want to know about religion then go to YouTube and spend a couple hours watching George Carlin. It's ok to have spiritual beliefs if you want to. It's not ok, in my book, to impose those beliefs on others. I believe in Mighty Mouse but I won't kill you if you don't......
They say money is the root of all evil.
I don't think so.
I think it's intolerance. I know that I have committed quite a bit of time-wasting and mean rants based on my intolerance of how other people do things and of how they view the world. Maybe of most of that time would have been spent building real-world physical things that make people happy then there would have been a lot more happy people, including me.
So, my niggaz, be peace. It's really the only true state of happiness between people.
Well I have to say that Delta Sport and their case maker get the award for unintended marketing move of the year!
Who would have thought that they would get so much debate over what they most assuredly saw as a simple religious themed case?
I made this case for a customer who lives in a land with a lot of Muslims. No one really connects this symbol with the Inquisition where people were tortured and then murdered by the "Church" if they did not comply with Church doctrine, no one gets upset with the person who carries this case because the Catholic churche's employees have systematically raped young boys throughout it's existence, among many other atrocities:
I made this one for a guy who is fond of the virtues he feels that the Knights Templar exemplify. However some people see this and think of the thousands of Muslims the Crusaders, including the Knights Templar, slaughtered in cold blood while trying to find a fabled Christian relic:
This one shows off Chinese spirtuality:
The Ancient Eygptians were fond of killing people for sacrifice to their gods, and they enslaved millions of Jews to build their pyramids or so goes the movie version:
The point being that we can all find negativity in any symbol.
It's the yin/yang of life. It's what you choose to do with it when you see it that defines you. I found out about the history of the Swastika years ago and how Hitler and the Nazis co-opted it.
So what? They don't get to keep it forever. Their version of it is just one possible meaning attached to it. It's like the terrorists who have co-opted "jihad" and made it so that most people think that jihad means waging a "war" against non-believers to the point of murdering them for their non-belief. That's NOT what it means and to give in to it gives it power.
This is why black people adopted nigger and use it amongst themselves as a way of greeting and bonding. When a black guy says that's my nigger or nigga then he is saying clearly this is my great friend. As opposed to the way white slave owners used it 150 years ago to say, that's my nigger as in I own him. Now black people could have allowed that term to be erased from their own vocabulary but they didn't, they made it something that they own, something that white people who don't have a bad thought in their mind about black people are AFRAID to say for fear of giving offense. Well white people should be afraid to say it unless they are using it because they have been immersed in black culture and use it naturally. Black culture earned, unwillingly, the right to take a word used by whites racists and own it for themselves.
By the same token I find that people shouldn't really use religious symbols of other cultures unless they really understand them.
BUT
At the end of the say as Lenny Bruce said, it's all just words and pictures. It doesn't MEAN anything unless you give it power and breath life into it. We grant far too much power to symbols and doctrine.
If you want to know about religion then go to YouTube and spend a couple hours watching George Carlin. It's ok to have spiritual beliefs if you want to. It's not ok, in my book, to impose those beliefs on others. I believe in Mighty Mouse but I won't kill you if you don't......
They say money is the root of all evil.
I don't think so.
I think it's intolerance. I know that I have committed quite a bit of time-wasting and mean rants based on my intolerance of how other people do things and of how they view the world. Maybe of most of that time would have been spent building real-world physical things that make people happy then there would have been a lot more happy people, including me.
So, my niggaz, be peace. It's really the only true state of happiness between people.
Let's cut right to the chase:
Regardless of the history of the swastika and what it stood for throughout history, the Nazi's bought it and owned it since WWII. Regardless of what it once meant, when a swastika is displayed in today's day and age it symbolizes everything the Nazis stood for and that's the bottom line. Even if the swastika had a benevolent meaning forever ago, the Nazis ruined that forever and ever.
If someone totes this case around, they better be prepared to catch shit from it non-stop. Any thought to the contrary is flat-out retarded. I can't stress "retarded" enough.
Sorry, but this ain't India or Asia. Here in the U.S.... that symbol has one meaning if you're not up-to-speed on that....well, prepare thyself well.
Regardless of the history of the swastika and what it stood for throughout history, the Nazi's bought it and owned it since WWII. Regardless of what it once meant, when a swastika is displayed in today's day and age it symbolizes everything the Nazis stood for and that's the bottom line. Even if the swastika had a benevolent meaning forever ago, the Nazis ruined that forever and ever.
If someone totes this case around, they better be prepared to catch shit from it non-stop. Any thought to the contrary is flat-out retarded. I can't stress "retarded" enough.
Sorry, but this ain't India or Asia. Here in the U.S.... that symbol has one meaning if you're not up-to-speed on that....well, prepare thyself well.
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no pain no gain
I don't think it will ever be the same. BTW, the Yankees don't scare me....
Karl
I don't think it will ever be the same. BTW, the Yankees don't scare me....
Karl
I guess I am retarded then. The Nazis are just a BLIP on the stage of history in a long line of genocidal extremists.
They don't get to BUY the swastika. The don't get to pervert it and then keep it. That's not how it works.
If that's how it works then John Wayne Gacy owns the clown as the symbol of the evil serial killer.
Why isn't the cross the symbol of the genocides perpetrated against non-Christians throughout history?
We could go through the long line of symbols to find evil deeds attached to them by those who try to steal, not buy, them for their symbols.
If someone were to adopt the cross as their symbol and then go kill five million people would you say that the cross is forever and ever the symbol of the criminals who did that or would it still be the symbol of hundreds of millions of Christians who profess to believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ? Does a little extremist group get to steal the symbol of Christianity like that?
Come on Dave, you can't really believe this. And you are wrong, the symbol has many meanings to many people IN AMERICA as well. The Navajo and many other indian groups used it extensively in their decorations on blankets, pottery and cave paintings.
To allow the Nazis and Neo Nazis to own it as their "brand" is to give them the power that they wanted. Hitler lives forever as long as you and others allow him to live forever by allocating this symbol to the Nazis.
Should we raise hell with anyone who uses a Red Dot as well? You do know that the red dot was the symbol of the Japanese army and what was painted on their kamikaze planes where the pilots made themselves into human guided bombs performing suicide attacks on American ships to insure that they caused the most damage and death. I can think of several companies who use a red dot as their logo. So should we go after them?
How about Volkswagen, that was the brand of car created by Hitler. He chose the name, he directed the design and build of the beetles. Is that not an enduring symbol of Nazi power?
We could do this all day. Yes, many Americans are ignorant of any other use for the swastika. But that is their problem. I dod agree that toting this case would get some stares, funny looks and probably some words. I can imagine the poor guy who has it......"no, no, this is the GOOD swastika, let me tell you about it...."
The thing that I find funny is that if a tough-looking skinhead walked into the pool room with a big ass Nazi swastika tattooed on his head I bet that most of the people in the poolroom's balls would shrivel up and no one would confront him. But as soon as someone thinks that perhaps maybe a mousy normal joe poolplayer would walk in with this case everyone is up in arms about how he is going to get some confrontation.
Kudos Delta Sport. Best viral campaign of the year. What a way to end 2011 by seeing what side of the tolerance line everyone stands on, in the main forum no less. And it's 50% off if anyone wants to buy it.
because the Catholic churche's employees have systematically raped young boys throughout it's existence, among many other atrocities:
I'm not Catholic , so i could care less , but homosexual pedophiles are responsible for the molestation of young boys. As a matter a fact they have infiltrated the Catholic Church from top to , uh , bottom. Why would a homosexual even join the Catholic Church?, except to have access to unguarded young boys.With people like Mr. Fine and Mr. Sandusky running around i'd bet that the amount of molestation of young boys by homosexual pedophiles in public education institutions is astronomical. And the recent revelations by Corey Feldman that in Hollywood child molestation is rampant against child actors.
Ok, so the cross is not defiled and vilified because some people commit atrocities while operating with it as their symbol. So the same holds true for the murdering genocidists called Nazis who operated under a symbol of unity and humanity.
I.e. not all people who wears a cross represent criminal pedophiles and not everyone who sports a swastika represents criminal murderers.
Actually it would be trademark infringement. But then not really because redrawing logos for personal use sometimes falls under the vast gray area known as Fair Use.
WTB: Authentic Hitler signature cue case.
I would really like to find the case used by the fuhrer himself during his road trips to the pool hall's in Austria.
This case is easy to identify because of the Adolph "The Hitman" Hitler lettering option on the back side.
Pre-holocaust is preferred
Please, no counter-clockwise angled swastika's
Have cash, will pay retail,,,,
Send pics to: cues4jews@yahoo.com
I would really like to find the case used by the fuhrer himself during his road trips to the pool hall's in Austria.
This case is easy to identify because of the Adolph "The Hitman" Hitler lettering option on the back side.
Pre-holocaust is preferred
Please, no counter-clockwise angled swastika's
Have cash, will pay retail,,,,
Send pics to: cues4jews@yahoo.com
Here is the back, ain't it purty?
http://www.deltacue.com/file/Prod/31-DLT-29(2).jpg
If you don't want the controversy associated with a swastika then there is the age old story of evil corporate greed wiping out native cultures with your very own Avatar themed case:
And as a testament to the incredible amount of attention to detail and quality found in these cases you can have this one without the T in Delta Sport, this is the back of the Avatar case:
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Wait, they did make one with Americans in mind, or at least those who love the USA....... don't you want this beauty?
And it even comes with the T - but like the other one the name is UPSIDE DOWN so that when you hold it by the side handle the lettering is the wrong way. Doesn't this just instill you with confidence in the quality?
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all this fuss over a symbol, give it a few 100 years and it will all blo over, it always has. things come and go. I got more to sweat than some shit from 70 years ago thats over and done with. Oh yeah im im Munich right now, where it all got started...and nobody openly cares. Well they do, but it aint a topic of conversation. It was horrible, but its over. And no i wouldnt carry it. new business...
Justify it?
Butter it up?
As if those who see it for what it is are somehow trying to cover up something?
You can't explain porn? Porn is the depiction of naked people in sexual positions intended to arouse the viewer. I would think you would know porn when you feel it about as much as when you see it.
If you see Nazis in this even after being spoon fed the history of the swastika then I don't know what to say. I hope the next evil dictator uses a penis as his symbol so that everyone will cut theirs off lest they be associated with his evil regime.
The levels of ignorance in this thread are astounding. I can understand the initial feelings some have, but to spout off with little to no understanding is amazing. So because some want to remain living in their bubbles, others shouldn't show symbols that have been around for thousands of years that represent what they believe in? Hopefully you don't have the gall to say this and then preach freedom and tolerance.
There are certain things in History that get filed under "Never Forget".
Then part of "Never Forget" should be "Always Grow".
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http://www.religionfacts.com/hinduism/symbols/swastika.htm
The swastika (Sanskrit svastika, "all is well") is a cross with four arms of equal length, with the ends of each arm bent at a right angle. Sometimes dots are added between each arm.
Swastika banner being hung for an Indian wedding, Mumbai. Photo: BigAppleOfMyEye.
Swastika on an Indian home. Photo: Premasagar.
Indian man's swastika ring. Photo: Premasagar.
Swastika rangoli (decoration welcoming visitors to a home). Photo: Azuric.
Bricks carved with a swastika and script, India. Photo: Premasagar.
Graffiti in Jamalpur, India. The Hindi writing is the mantra Baba Nam Kevalam. Photo: Premasagar.
The swastika is an ancient symbol that has been found worldwide, but it is especially common in India. Its name comes the Sanskrit word svasti (sv = well; asti = is), meaning good fortune, luck and well-being.
The swastika is most commonly used as a charm to bring good fortune (in which case the arms are bent clockwise), but it has a variety of religious meanings as well.
The right-hand swastika is one of the 108 symbols of the god Vishnu as well as a symbol of the sun and of the sun god Surya. The symbol imitates in the rotation of its arms the course taken daily by the sun, which appears in the Northern Hemisphere to pass from east, then south, to west. (It is also a symbol of the sun among Native Americans.)
The left-hand swastika (called a sauvastika) usually represents the terrifying goddess Kali, night and magic. However, this form of the swastika is not "evil" and it is the form most commonly used in Buddhism.
The auspicious symbol of the swastika is very commonly used in Hindu art, architecture and decoration. It can be seen on temples, houses, doorways, clothing, cars, and even cakes. It is usually a major part of the decoration for festivals and special ceremonies like weddings.
The Nazis adopted the swastika because it was understood as an Aryan symbol indicating racial purity and superiority. (The Nazis propogated a historical theory in which the early Aryans of India were white invaders.) There may also be a connection with the swastika's magical connections, for Hitler and other Nazi leaders were keenly interested in the occult.
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Ghandi was a practicing Hindu.
He said, "be the change you want to see in the world."
I prefer a world where every time I see some neo-nazi looking guy sporting a swastika I go up to him and say, "nice Sun symbol dude, are you a practicing Hindu?"
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