I agree one pocket is the toughest game around and requires the most skills to master. If you are weak at any part of the game your opponent will take advantage of it. It is also the best hustling game out there.
Rack Your Own Makes Me Sick
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I agree one pocket is the toughest game around and requires the most skills to master. If you are weak at any part of the game your opponent will take advantage of it. It is also the best hustling game out there.
Rack your own is great when using all 15 balls with the 1 racked in the middle
Please explain in detail to us Joe!
rack your own is the way to go
Rack your own is the way to go. I just got 5/6th at the Jamaica Joes Tourney in OKC. I racked the balls the same way every time. I had like 4 runouts the whole weekend. I would consider my break a "hard break" too.
It doesn't really matter because both players get to rack their own.
Cory Duell pattern racked and soft break he still couldn't keep up with shane and his "pattern rack" and hard break.
Pool is pool evolve with the game or get eaten alive with the sharks.
Rack your own is the way to go. I just got 5/6th at the Jamaica Joes Tourney in OKC. I racked the balls the same way every time. I had like 4 runouts the whole weekend. I would consider my break a "hard break" too.
It doesn't really matter because both players get to rack their own.
Cory Duell pattern racked and soft break he still couldn't keep up with shane and his "pattern rack" and hard break.
Pool is pool evolve with the game or get eaten alive with the sharks.
I remember watching a "rack your own" match where a player (as I recall) made the same wing ball 82 times in a row and the 1, 2, 3 ball went up table where he shot these balls in the two top pockets seemed like every time. How much of an advantage is that? Is this pool?
If you are referring to the Donny mills SVB match, yes I believe he did make the wing ball at least that many times. Maybe I am wrong, but I think the only reason Donny agreed to play even was with the condition that it was rack your own. He has figured out how to pattern rack and tried to use that to his advantage against Shane.
So, you are using a match that probably never would have happened if not for pattern racking.
So, you are using a match that probably never would have happened if not for pattern racking.
Stop using this game as an example. Reread my post, Donny would not have played Shane even without being allowed to pattern rack his own.
You are talking about a match that would not have happened without pattern racking, and using it as an example of why not to pattern rack....
Easy way to Solve
Since the 1 and 9 ball are the only (nine ball) balls that must be placed in exact spots why don't we just have a sheet that says game one must be racked this way and game 2 this way and so on.
With 7 balls that can be placed in 7 different spot in the rack there are a lot of different racking combinations possible without have a duplicate rack in any match.
Don
Since the 1 and 9 ball are the only (nine ball) balls that must be placed in exact spots why don't we just have a sheet that says game one must be racked this way and game 2 this way and so on.
With 7 balls that can be placed in 7 different spot in the rack there are a lot of different racking combinations possible without have a duplicate rack in any match.
Don
Why? Because we don't need to. Pattern racking doesn't decide who wins the tournament.
If both players now how to rack to make the same ball in the corner each time. If it's not rack your own. What do they do to the rack to prevent that from happening. I don't think who racks matters. The breaker will just keep making the racker rack until he sees a tight rack. just because someone took the time to learn the importance of racking doesn't mean you take it away from them. Your too good so we have to change the rules.
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Rack Stats
Ball diameters are All different and getting the rack to work to you advantage comes from realizing which ball patterns rack tighter or looser. When I played in the US Open years ago we always knew the table we were going to play on the next match. I would go watch the match and record racking patterns starting at the top.
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26
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7
Next.... watch the break and record how many balls and which balls went, I personally called it Rack/Stats. This course of action definitely works....why? Because some ball patterns rack tighter or looser than others. When I told Mike Massey about this years ago, he liked it. Never seen another do this, but never seen another player kick like Efren till???????. I got to the point on an unknown table where I would rack, go back to my seat and write down the pattern and keep results, it definitely helps. Or memorize the pattern and use it again the next time I racked.
Ball diameters are All different and getting the rack to work to you advantage comes from realizing which ball patterns rack tighter or looser. When I played in the US Open years ago we always knew the table we were going to play on the next match. I would go watch the match and record racking patterns starting at the top.
1
26
395
48
7
Next.... watch the break and record how many balls and which balls went, I personally called it Rack/Stats. This course of action definitely works....why? Because some ball patterns rack tighter or looser than others. When I told Mike Massey about this years ago, he liked it. Never seen another do this, but never seen another player kick like Efren till???????. I got to the point on an unknown table where I would rack, go back to my seat and write down the pattern and keep results, it definitely helps. Or memorize the pattern and use it again the next time I racked.
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I just read the tittle Rack your own makes me sick?
First of all, when you are using the format of RYO, it must be approved by opponent, now if the opponent does not check the rack that is his prerogative........ but can not complain after the fact
This rule is well understood by must players but if not still the director or ref to check with
To be fair that rule applied with alternate breaks is the most insuring of fair play, there will always be better players and we all know that in the end of a "long race" the better player will prevail......no mistake about it
Think for a moment if a "pro player " will bet a large amount of his money with someone who he does not know? on a short race or none at all (one game) decider... Don't think it will happen (normally)
Stay well and like I said.....did not read any other message in this forum.
Just watched Corey play the USBTC and he broke soft and ran the 1-2-3-4 and then a 5-9 combo the exact same way 4 in a row on his breaks.
Real tough game.......
Magic rack + 9 ball + pattern racking is not a game, its a drill.
Real tough game.......
Magic rack + 9 ball + pattern racking is not a game, its a drill.
I couldn't agree more and couldn't explain it any better! THANK YOU!!!
Most just can't seem to handle the actual facts about it. Same as with saying 9 ball is broken because the pros run it out too easy. I laugh everytime someone says that. That's what I want to see, runnouts! If I wanted to watch misses, I'd watch the amateurs play. My theory is that they can't stand to see the pros run out (even though you seldom actually see any real packages) because it shows just how big the gap is between themselves and the pros. Better to have them play a harder game where they miss more so one doesn't feel so bad about their own misses. They just can't truly appreciate what they are actually watching without feeling bad about themselves.
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Pattern Racking
If pattern racking isn't easier to run out then why are they doing it?
If pattern racking isn't easier to run out then why are they doing it?
Frankly, I think it's nothing more than an old myth passed on for so long that people now believe it.
Now, if you are really soft breaking, like Corey was, then yes, it makes a difference. But, breaking harder, not really. Still too much randomness after the break on medium to hard breaks. You can tell where the balls will hit the first rail, but after that it's pretty much a crap shoot on what runs into what. There are very general theories, but no one can say just where any ball will go on the break except the wing ball or head ball or 9 ball with a tight rack.