Racking

Ok, i need the wisdom of an instructor here. I joined my friends league team and there are a lot of strong players in it. I need some tips on getting a tight 8 ball rack! The hall has your normal $3 dollar plastic racks also and the balls seem to be miss matched too.
 
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Ok, i need the wisdom of an instructor here. I joined my friends league team and there are a lot of strong players in it. I need some tips on getting a tight 8 ball rack! The hall has your normal $3 dollar plastic racks also and the balls seem to be miss matched too.

For someone as astute as you when it comes to aiming, playing and what works and what doesn't - you can't figure out how to get a tight rack? League with good players and the balls are mismatched? Really?

Oh, clearly a facetious post, I get it.
 
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Ok, i need the wisdom of an instructor here. I joined my friends league team and there are a lot of strong players in it. I need some tips on getting a tight 8 ball rack! The hall has your normal $3 dollar plastic racks also and the balls seem to be miss matched too.
Rack on the other end of the table. Tap the table. Use an Accu-Rack which is designed to deal with mis-matched balls. Move the regular rack forward to get the head ball tight. Play elsewhere.

But mostly, I think you shouldn't worry much about it. Get the balls up quickly, with the minimum requirements as to positioning. Take no more than three attempts to get them tight. Freezing the head ball against its neighbors is often the best you can do.
 
For someone as astute and you when it comes to aiming, playing and what works and what doesn't - you can't figure out how to get a tight rack? League with good players and the balls are mismatched? Really?

Oh, clearly a facetious post, I get it.
I took the poster at his word. Why do you think he's goofing us?
 
I took the poster at his word. Why do you think he's goofing us?

You have to read his other posts in other forums to get it. He seems to know definitively what's good and bad technique-wise, so how can't he know how to rack?

Reminds me of when Chris Bartram made a post here asking the instructors, "How do I beat Orcullo??" He was just goofing, of course - just like this guy is. Clearly, this guy knows how to play so anyone at that level knows how to rack well without asking a forum.
 
Dave sometimes you have to ask simple questions just to make sure your not missing something.

I was playing a friend who could play at the pro level, a gifted player i would say. I could not make a ball off my racks and he says 'let me rack and you will make a ball' and I did! I did not have the time to get into a racking discussion with him, so i posted here. Nothing sucks more when playing a strong player and you cant make a ball off your own breaks and he runs out your breaks every time lol

lee brett is a 7 and my friend is a 9-10 handicap in the tour they play in here.
 
Rack on the other end of the table. Tap the table. Use an Accu-Rack which is designed to deal with mis-matched balls. Move the regular rack forward to get the head ball tight. Play elsewhere.

But mostly, I think you shouldn't worry much about it. Get the balls up quickly, with the minimum requirements as to positioning. Take no more than three attempts to get them tight. Freezing the head ball against its neighbors is often the best you can do.

Bob i like most of your posts but i cringe when i read tap the table for a lot of people that means take another ball and bang it down on top of a few balls then the area around the spot is like trying to rack on gravel. They dont seem to realize you can tap it with your habd and get enough compression of the cloth to rack if indeed its even necessary.
 
Bob i like most of your posts but i cringe when i read tap the table for a lot of people that means take another ball and bang it down on top of a few balls then the area around the spot is like trying to rack on gravel. They dont seem to realize you can tap it with your habd and get enough compression of the cloth to rack if indeed its even necessary.

Actually I meant something more complicated than most people in the US would assume; I meant the technique used in Europe. A template is placed on the table. It has holes in a rack pattern slightly closer to each other than the diameter of a ball. A ball is placed into each hole in turn and tapped into place. I think sometimes the cloth is dampened to make the tapping last longer. To rack, the balls are simply rolled into the craters. Very fast and very tight.

I think the Sardo rack required such table preparation.

As far as trying to fix lumpy, pitted cloth in the rack area by smashing a ball into the cloth with the cue ball, the WPA rules/regulations say, in part:

Players must never tap balls; only tournament officials should tap or re-tap (if needed) the racking area.
 
Actually I meant something more complicated than most people in the US would assume; I meant the technique used in Europe. A template is placed on the table. It has holes in a rack pattern slightly closer to each other than the diameter of a ball. A ball is placed into each hole in turn and tapped into place. I think sometimes the cloth is dampened to make the tapping last longer. To rack, the balls are simply rolled into the craters. Very fast and very tight.

I think the Sardo rack required such table preparation.

As far as trying to fix lumpy, pitted cloth in the rack area by smashing a ball into the cloth with the cue ball, the WPA rules/regulations say, in part:

Players must never tap balls; only tournament officials should tap or re-tap (if needed) the racking area.

I understood what you meant if only patrons at most halls did. I wasnt really disagreeing with you only that so few understand what is meant by tapping and merely make things worse. My apologies if you thought i was arguing with you.
 
I welcome people to check my racks. I place the head ball on the spot, pull the other balls back, let it settle and gently pull the rack back tight to the head ball. I then gently push the remaining balls in the rack up and tighten them. It takes 10 seconds at most but it gives a tight rack every time. If the bangers didn't tap the head ball it could be quicker.
 
I do something simple which often helps, especially on the old cloth and balls that we play with.

I simply take my hand and wipe the spot area and immediately behind it. Not a lot, just a swipe or two. It seems to make it easier to keep at least front few rows together.
 
Pay Up Sucker...Do you check your friend's rack, after he racked for you? It could be as simple as he's leaving a small gap, which may enable making a ball.

Scott Lee
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Dave sometimes you have to ask simple questions just to make sure your not missing something.

I was playing a friend who could play at the pro level, a gifted player i would say. I could not make a ball off my racks and he says 'let me rack and you will make a ball' and I did! I did not have the time to get into a racking discussion with him, so i posted here. Nothing sucks more when playing a strong player and you cant make a ball off your own breaks and he runs out your breaks every time lol

lee brett is a 7 and my friend is a 9-10 handicap in the tour they play in here.
 
I did not get the chance to talk to him about it that night, i will talk to him about it in a couple days when i see him. He is a good friend and will show me if i ask.
 
If he does tell you what he is doin please let us know. I am in a rack for yourself league and always making a ball would be huge. Thanks
 
If he does tell you what he is doin please let us know. I am in a rack for yourself league and always making a ball would be huge. Thanks

I will! That makes a big difference in a rack your own league, advantage lost. Instead of winning 17-0, 16-1 you are winning games 10-7, 11-6 or you are being run out on your own breaks. It keeps the average down and good for the handicap lol
 
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