Recut Points
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I can see no downside to recut points as long as they are done well, other than you are a little more limited with colors than you are with veneers. Recut points take a good repeatable machinery set up and a good skill set to do them. You see much less recuts than you do points with veneers because in many ways they are harder to do. Either way with veneers or recuts the points are only going to be as good as the cuemaker is at doing them.
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Let me start by saying...IMO.
The short answer to your question is no. The fact that it has recut points compared to say stacked veneers or veneers that have been mitered should in no way effect the cue construction. The construction technique used to install the points or the glue used may be a factor tho.
I'm not sure what you may consider or are being told what the right way is but ask 10 cuemakers what the right way is and you'll probably get 8 and a half different ways that they all swear are the right way.
I know how I do them and I certainly consider it the right way.
I'm not a cue maker.... I had one cue with recut points. It was made by Skip Weston. It was the best looking pointed cue I have ever personally owned. (IMO) 
I really like the look of recuts much more than veneers. No seam at all, and to me, the wood even looks better.
Again, IMO
I really like the look of recuts much more than veneers. No seam at all, and to me, the wood even looks better.
Again, IMO
Very difficult to make correctly and keep all the points sharp and even. Here is a link to my Barnhart Recut.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=237114&highlight=Barnhart
Wedge
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=237114&highlight=Barnhart
Wedge
I at first thought he was meaning another way was the right way. But after rereading it I realized he said "right away." In other words all glued up and installed right away instead of coming back and re-cutting them.
Good catch....I missed that with my lackadaisical reading comprehension.
Away...Way...two different meanings! :nono:
I personally like any cue with a veneered look to be done the old way either mitered or stacked. That said those who have made that look their signature way of doing it like Skip or Dennis (Dennis's aren't recuts though) I really like as well... So for me in some cases it is a negative but only aesthetically. If you like the cue and the price is right BUY IT! :wink:
Neither are Skips. Dennis dyes his own, and Skip leaves them as nature intended and his color palate is limited to the actual wood colors. The lone exception being the ones he sent out for teal dying to make a "titlist" tribute.
JV
JV
Yeah I knew that, as per our conversation before, but I didn't think Dennis and Skips methods are the same... Correct me if I'm wrong..
RBC
Deceased
Classiccues and Skins,
I'm curious as to why you guys wouldn't consider either Dennis' or Skips' method to be recuts?
There is a distinct difference the traditional veneered points and recut points.
Some make the recut point before it goes into the cue, and some cut them individually in the cue, but both are recuts.
Royce
I'm curious as to why you guys wouldn't consider either Dennis' or Skips' method to be recuts?
There is a distinct difference the traditional veneered points and recut points.
Some make the recut point before it goes into the cue, and some cut them individually in the cue, but both are recuts.
Royce
I will assume for the sake of semantics that the two probably have different techniques to achieve the same look. But I know I would not consider Skips recuts, and when you signaled out Dennis in your parenthesis it looks like you were saying his was.
Joe
Royce,
The term recut has always implied to make your initial pocket, glue in the first wedge, then "recut", hence the name for the second color / material. Skip and I believe Dennis does not do that. I know Skip does no "recutting" at all, not on the initial forearm or in the prong assembly. I have always used the term seamless veneer when discussing Skips prongs.
JV
The term recut has always implied to make your initial pocket, glue in the first wedge, then "recut", hence the name for the second color / material. Skip and I believe Dennis does not do that. I know Skip does no "recutting" at all, not on the initial forearm or in the prong assembly. I have always used the term seamless veneer when discussing Skips prongs.
JV
So "recut" means you inlay a single-piece point and then inlay a smaller single-piece point into that point, and then another into that, etc.?
pj
chgo
Pretty much. You're cutting the old point out after you glue it and usually do a turn on the lathe. That is what always made them cost a little more, they are more labor intensive than a stacked veneer prong.
JV
JV
What!?! Skip Weston does not do recuts? That's his claim to fame as far as I know.
I'm with Royce on this one. Whether you cut the points one at a time into the forearm of the cue, or you make a completed subassembly of points and then glue that subassembly into the forearm, they are both recuts.
I'm with Royce on this one. Whether you cut the points one at a time into the forearm of the cue, or you make a completed subassembly of points and then glue that subassembly into the forearm, they are both recuts.
This shows why you "used to be rich"....
Seriously, he has never done a recut. He has never, ever said or agreed with that terminology. Back in the very early 90's when he came out with these, same time frame as Mottey and his fancy recuts, I think it was easier for people to describe them as such, since they always appeared the same from an aesthetics point of view.
JV
Seriously, he has never done a recut. He has never, ever said or agreed with that terminology. Back in the very early 90's when he came out with these, same time frame as Mottey and his fancy recuts, I think it was easier for people to describe them as such, since they always appeared the same from an aesthetics point of view.
JV
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Ok. Let's disregard "how" it's put together.
Is the end result that each individual border wood in a point are shaped in a "V" and of one solid piece of wood?