Recut Points

classiccues said:
Royce,
The term recut has always implied to make your initial pocket, glue in the first wedge, then "recut", hence the name for the second color / material. Skip and I believe Dennis does not do that. I know Skip does no "recutting" at all, not on the initial forearm or in the prong assembly. I have always used the term seamless veneer when discussing Skips prongs.

JV
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JV

I guess the funny thing is that we tend to name something based on how it's done. But, as time goes on the methods change. When they do, the name now doesn't necessarily fit, but usually stays with the result rather than the method.

Recuts were most likely made that way. However, there are other ways of doing it these days and they all result in the same end result.

I've seen cues made by both Skip and Dennis. I've talked with Dennis many times, but I haven't talked with Skip. Either way, I would call the cues made by both to have recut points.

I mean no disrespect! To me, recuts are clearly more difficult.


Royce
 
Royce,
I understand, but I can tell you with 100% certainty Skip does no "recutting" at any time. In fact the only similarity is in the final appearance.

Joe

RBC said:
JV

I guess the funny thing is that we tend to name something based on how it's done. But, as time goes on the methods change. When they do, the name now doesn't necessarily fit, but usually stays with the result rather than the method.

Recuts were most likely made that way. However, there are other ways of doing it these days and they all result in the same end result.

I've seen cues made by both Skip and Dennis. I've talked with Dennis many times, but I haven't talked with Skip. Either way, I would call the cues made by both to have recut points.

I mean no disrespect! To me, recuts are clearly more difficult.


Royce
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classiccues said:
Royce,

I understand, but I can tell you with 100% certainty Skip does no "recutting" at any time. In fact the only similarity is in the final appearance.



Joe
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Ok. But please clarify if we are all debating semantics or the actual finished product?

Are Skip Weston's border woods on his points made of one solid piece of wood (not 2 pieces glued together), and in a V shape?
 
iusedtoberich said:
Ok. But please clarify if we are all debating semantics or the actual finished product?

Are Skip Weston's border woods on his points made of one solid piece of wood (not 2 pieces glued together), and in a V shape?
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This is correct, they are a single piece with no glue line/seam at the tip of the point.
 
EtDM said:
This is correct, they are a single piece with no glue line/seam at the tip of the point.
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Well if that is true, it would seem we are simply debating semantics in this thread.

For example, using the word "pin" instead of "screw" for the joint "pin" is something I don't agree with at all. However, it has become the standard way of describing what we all call a pin, so its no big deal.

I think much the same for the word "recut". Everyone knows what it means, so why say cue maker xyz does not do recuts, if the end result is the same, and it was just assembled in a different order/manner?
 
RE Cut Points

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iusedtoberich said:
Well if that is true, it would seem we are simply debating semantics in this thread.

For example, using the word "pin" instead of "screw" for the joint "pin" is something I don't agree with at all. However, it has become the standard way of describing what we all call a pin, so its no big deal.

I think much the same for the word "recut". Everyone knows what it means, so why say cue maker xyz does not do recuts, if the end result is the same, and it was just assembled in a different order/manner?
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I beg to differ. Everyone does not know what it means. The methods used to achieve simular results are not even close to being the same. That puts each method under it's own discipline of machining. Imaginations are stretched trying to understand them and without step by step pictures, some will never grasp it.
 
Michael Webb said:
I beg to differ. Everyone does not know what it means. The methods used to achieve simular results are not even close to being the same. That puts each method under it's own discipline of machining. Imaginations are stretched trying to understand them and without step by step pictures, some will never grasp it.
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If you were to take a cross section of a finished cue through the points of a cue maker who says he does "recuts", and a cue maker who says he does not do "recuts" (Skip Weston according to the info in this thread), would the sections look the same? I know the dimensions would be different of course, based on the cue makers preferences, but would the section in principle look the same?

Thanks.
 
iusedtoberich said:
If you were to take a cross section of a finished cue through the points of a cue maker who says he does "recuts", and a cue maker who says he does not do "recuts" (Skip Weston according to the info in this thread), would the sections look the same? I know the dimensions would be different of course, based on the cue makers preferences, but would the section in principle look the same?

Thanks.
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Yes Sir they would. But respect has to be given to both methods and they shouldn't be compared to the same. Ever.
 
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