Referee John Leyman Pro Rule Change

Island Drive

Otto/Dads College Roommate/Cleveland Browns
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John said....
''If the breaker makes an illegal break''
Rerack, opponent breaks.
Nice call John, I totally agree.

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??? ... Is this a rule change or a proposed rule change? Why do you like it?
It is not a proposed change for the WSR. And it is not any real issue for pro players. The current rule works. I suppose it's possible that CSI will implement the rule for CSI events, but I don't see any need.

Under the World Standardized Rules, a foul on the break shot is treated like any other foul. BIH anywhere for the opponent. The break shot has the additional requirement of sending four object balls to cushions, but that's not usually a problem.
 
??? ... Is this a rule change or a proposed rule change? Why do you like it?
No, John was asked a question, and all I'm doing is telling you all what he said.
I do like his POV.... makes the breaker realize he'll lose his break if he doesn't follow the rules of THAT event is all.
 
It is not a proposed change for the WSR. And it is not any real issue for pro players. The current rule works. I suppose it's possible that CSI will implement the rule for CSI events, but I don't see any need.

Under the World Standardized Rules, a foul on the break shot is treated like any other foul. BIH anywhere for the opponent. The break shot has the additional requirement of sending four object balls to cushions, but that's not usually a problem.
How do you Know its not any real issue for pro players?
 
I saw the interview (or at least just that question, IDK if there were more). It was just an informal question by a streaming channel asking if he could change one rule what would it be. IMO, he wants to take away the BIH on an illegal break that sets up the 3 fouls.

I'm surprised he didn't say "get rid of the nit rules that a player can lose the game by taking the balls out of the drop-pockets, after the 9 has been pocketed, but before the CB has stopped"
 
I saw the interview (or at least just that question, IDK if there were more). It was just an informal question by a streaming channel asking if he could change one rule what would it be. IMO, he wants to take away the BIH on an illegal break that sets up the 3 fouls. ...
I see the "3-point" rule as far more problematic from a fairness point of view than a flubbed break shot leading to 3 fouls. I'm not sure what a good solution is, though. "You gotta hit'em right hard," is not very satisfying as an alternative.
 
I'm surprised he didn't say "get rid of the nit rules that a player can lose the game by taking the balls out of the drop-pockets, after the 9 has been pocketed, but before the CB has stopped"

Politically I very much doubt he could say that. The Predator tournaments of which he is the head referee have adopted that rule (not present in any other event that isn’t Predator or EPBF) so clearly either he likes it or someone above him does.
 
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