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The game is 10-ball.

Player A have made two consecutive fouls.

Player B enters the table with ball in hand, he do miss the called shot and crossbanks it into a non called pocket.

Player A leave the shot back to player B.

Is player A still under warning for "three consecutive fouls"?
 
Niklas said:
The game is 10-ball.

Player A have made two consecutive fouls.

Player B enters the table with ball in hand, he do miss the called shot and crossbanks it into a non called pocket.

Player A leave the shot back to player B.

Is player A still under warning for "three consecutive fouls"?
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I would say definitley yes.
But often different leagues handling it different. Also looking what some guys will say and post here :)

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Niklas said:
The game is 10-ball.

Player A have made two consecutive fouls.

Player B enters the table with ball in hand, he do miss the called shot and crossbanks it into a non called pocket.

Player A leave the shot back to player B.

Is player A still under warning for "three consecutive fouls"?
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The rules are relatively clear on this point:
6.14 Three Consecutive Fouls
If a player fouls three times without making an intervening legal shot, it is a serious foul. In games scored by the rack, such as nine ball, the fouls must be in a single rack. Some games such as eight ball do not include this rule.
The referee must warn a shooter who is on two fouls when he comes to the table that he is on two fouls. Otherwise a possible third foul will be considered to be only the second.

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Did the double-fouler make a shot? A shot begins when the tip hits the ball which is stated in the definitions sections of the rules. See the rules here.
 
Bob Jewett said:
The rules are relatively clear on this point:
6.14 Three Consecutive Fouls
If a player fouls three times without making an intervening legal shot, it is a serious foul. In games scored by the rack, such as nine ball, the fouls must be in a single rack. Some games such as eight ball do not include this rule.
The referee must warn a shooter who is on two fouls when he comes to the table that he is on two fouls. Otherwise a possible third foul will be considered to be only the second.

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Did the double-fouler make a shot? A shot begins when the tip hits the ball which is stated in the definitions sections of the rules. See the rules here.
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Poolhalljunkie said:
Ten ball is a rotation game (slop counts) still player b's shot and would continue to be until the inning is over either by safe, foul, or pocketing 10 ball. Player A would be on 2 fouls until he completes a legal shot.

PHJ
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Slop counts? Not where I play.
 
Then I guess the real question is: Was making the ball in the wrong pocket a legal shot? I would say yes. Although the rules allow for the option, they don't make it illegal to pocket a ball in the wrong pocket. You just lose your turn. Player A made a legal shot.

Otherwise the incoming player would be entitled to BIH when the ball was pocketed. Once the shot is sent back to Player A, I believe he would be on "no fouls"
 
I know that it is called shots in 10-ball, and that added with the more difficult breaking for me is the point in playing 10-ball.

And it was'nt me that went away with that in this thread..:)
 
Deadon said:
Then I guess the real question is: Was making the ball in the wrong pocket a legal shot? I would say yes. Although the rules allow for the option, they don't make it illegal to pocket a ball in the wrong pocket. You just lose your turn. Player A made a legal shot.

Otherwise the incoming player would be entitled to BIH when the ball was pocketed. Once the shot is sent back to Player A, I believe he would be on "no fouls"
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I don't quite follow this. Yes, the shot into the wrong pocket was a legal shot, but that shot was made by player B. Player A is the one on 2 fouls. The shot wasn't given back to player A. It was given back by player A to player B. The act of giving back the shot does not constitute a legal shot by player A so he is still on 2 fouls when he comes to the table the next time.
 
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