Remembering Abe Rich

Very interesting and definitely old school. There are many production cues that I own but I do not own a Rich cue. They come up on auction sites fairly regularly, maybe its time to go after one.

Do you know what happened to his shop and inventor

Cuebuddy,Be aware that there are Abe Rich Cues( Florida Cues and Star Cues) and Rich Cues ( Rich Qs of New York). Rich Qs was his brothers company and was into production cues. Abe's cues were custom.
Everybody confuses the issue by referring to both as Rich Cues. There is a difference in quality and value.

See my earlier post on this thread trying to get it straight on a particular
cue.

I am pretty sure Rich Q company was owned by his uncle and not his brother. Florida cues was a joint venture with his cousin.
 
Very interesting and definitely old school. There are many production cues that I own but I do not own a Rich cue. They come up on auction sites fairly regularly, maybe its time to go after one.

Do you know what happened to his shop and inventor

Cuebuddy,Be aware that there are Abe Rich Cues( Florida Cues and Star Cues) and Rich Cues ( Rich Qs of New York). Rich Qs was his brothers company and was into production cues. Abe's cues were custom.

Everybody confuses the issue by referring to both as Rich Cues. There is a difference in quality and value.
Thanks for the info I had no idea, I will read up.
See my earlier post on this thread trying to get it straight on a particular
cue.

A cuemaker and a backer bought it all.

Wow it sounds like his shop and inventory would have been cool to see. I currently use a wood lathe to make very simple and basic cues. I have a old South Bend that I will use someday if I get more serious. Or better yet a Hightower set up;).
 
Very interesting and definitely old school. There are many production cues that I own but I do not own a Rich cue.

Cuebuddy,Be aware that there are Abe Rich Cues( Florida Cues and Star Cues) and Rich Cues ( Rich Qs of New York). Rich Qs was his brothers company and was into production cues. Abe's cues were custom.

Everybody confuses the issue by referring to both as Rich Cues.

123, be aware that Rich Q's of New York City was the cue company of his cousin Saul Rich, son of Issy (Izzy) Rich (Abe's uncle). Rich Q's was an offshoot of Issy's billiard company. Abe's brother Morris had no association with Rich Q's.

Abe's brother Morris only had a monetary partnership in Abe's first cue business Florida Cues after Abe left NYC and returned to Florida. This was prior to Abe's moving the shop to South Beach and renaming the business Star Cues.

Fred <~~~ wants a Rich or a Star Cue
 
Wild nylon wrap on that Florida cue. That's from Early in Abe's career!
I heard there was an article on abe in Inside Pool in September, but couldn't find the issue online. Does anyone know if it is available?

Sept. 2009 sounds right. I don't believe it ever made it to the online version and normally, they run out of the issues. Maybe you can get a hold of IP and find out if they have any extra.

Did I already send you the raw copy of the article?

Fred
 
Sept. 2009 sounds right. I don't believe it ever made it to the online version and normally, they run out of the issues. Maybe you can get a hold of IP and find out if they have any extra.

Did I already send you the raw copy of the article?

Fred

Hey Fred,

Yes, you sent me the raw copy a while back. I didn't ever find the magazine to pick up a copy, so I appreciate it.

~Beau
 
This cue is new old stock maybe 35 yrs or so
 

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Abe Rich? Florida Cue? Star Cue? Rich Cue? It's in the family anyway.

It is thought to be a sixties cue, but I don't know for sure.

Found here in Florida, in nearly perfect condition, just needs a tip.

Interestingly, it is a sixty inch cue.

Very interesting to read the stories about Abe Rich. A lot of history there.

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Ok, I know someone reading this is gonna get all upset about me exposing their "secret" find and how dare I let anyone else know about it because now I can't get the bargain I expected and you're the only one in the world other than several thousand others who have seen this for sale but now that it's in a cue collectors site you ain't gonna get the deal you deserve for finding it first--

Get over it!!!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/180761233376?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649


LOL!

Already watching it. :)
 
That appears to be a Rich Q on EBay, but not an Abe Rich.
Some of the info is no longer online, so I've attached the Miami Herald article- it should give some good information about the history of Abe Rich and Rich Q.
 
Abe, Morris, Issy, and Saul Rich

Just want to keep the flame alive and straighten out some misunderstandings.

Issy "The Professor" made cues under the names New York Billiard Table Company and Bowery Billiards. Fred Astaire was among his celebrity customers.

His son, Saul, began on the Bowery but moved to Long Island. Although the Blue Book and other sources list the company, Rich Cue (Rich Q), as operating in Freeport, I have not been able to confirm that. The company was in Valley Stream near the Queens border in the Sixties. It was sold to Ike Algaze and later Imperial.

Abe and his brother Morris were survivors of the Kovno Ghetto and Dachau. After the war Abe went to Israel and Morris came to the US, where he established Richwood Turning in Miami. Abe joined him in the late Fifties.

Abe went north to "apprentice" with his nephew Saul for a number of years. Impressed by what he perceived as the profitability of the concern post The Hustler, he convinced Morris to let him use part of the Miami shop to make Florida cues.

When the brothers fell out, Morris' son Howard assisted his uncle in moving to a shop in the now fashionable South Beach section of Miami Beach, where he continued until his death to make Star cues.

Purchasing and collecting Rich family cues, as I do, can be quite tricky. The "mass production" Rich products come in considerable variety, with some models achieving Level 5 intricacy. Rich cues were often labeled or identified with stickers, "Rich Q" logos on the forearm or butt or within a window. Some models have -RICH-on the butt cap.

Abe tended to make simple cues without points, many resembling the cues he had made in New York, particularly in their use of plastics and colorful wraps. These designs recall similar contemporary trends from Frank Paradise, Eugene Balner (Palmer), and Doc Fry. Some of his cues also incorporated windows, but usually not in tandem with colored plastics and wraps. White Cortland linen is used instead. He also made Titlelist conversions from time to time. What generally distinguishes his work is the use of exotic woods, of which he kept a great supply at his alleyway shop at 428 Jefferson Avenue. Abe did not sign or label his cues with the exception of the Miami era, when there was a Florida Cue label.

Many cues offered on eBay as Abe Rich cues are their Long Island cousins. Original Florida and Star cues from remaining inventory are sometimes sold by Abe's nephew, Howard Rich. Blue Book values do not generally distinguish between the two.

Issy Rich cues? I've never seen a picture of one, let alone heard of one on sale.
 
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