Repetitive Stress Injury from Pool?

VTEC John said:
I could have mentioned up front that the neuro ran upper body nerve conduction tests, which were abnormal. So there is a strong diagnosis based on the correct test. There is a surgical option. Trying to keep it simple here is a challenge.
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I am not surprised, honestly, because you said he was diagnosed by a neurologist.

My mother-in-law was offered the surgical options. Typically this is a last resort. Essentially sever the nerve that bothers you, to put it simply.

She had "cell phone elbow", an ulnar nerve lesion. I told her to use the other hand. Problem solved.
 
Badpenguin said:
Congratulations on your part in killing Americans, becoming the leading cause of accidental death in the US. Nice to know that people take that Hippocratic Oath seriously.
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Funny how many people have been duped by that BS statistic.

The primary commitment of the Oath is to teach. Go read it. Then pay attention.

You are perpetuating garbage.
 
bbb said:
Even tennis elbow, which I have had several times because I do play tennis
It’s hard for me to understand to get from Pool unless you break a lot in nine ball or eight ball and gripping the cue very tightly
But if you say that, that’s what you have and that’s how you got it
I have to believe you
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A fixed elbow will eat the force of a strong stroke that would otherwise go into an elbow drop. For the most part, the triceps tendon will get most stressed and could even get damaged...which takes super long to properly heal. This strain on the triceps tendon can cause some inflamation in the area and this is what really causes flare ups in previous injuries in the elbow joint...even if the affected ligaments don't seem to be involved in stroking, or really, decellerating the stroke with a fixed elbow. So ye, believe him lol.

Another factor is that pain and how it is perceived is weird in the body so they may have a strained triceps tendon and attribute that to their old familiar injury. I know I was pretty surprised to find out that plantar fascitis, on the very bottom of the foot, was causing the radiating pain on top of my foot which felt exactly like a lisfranc sprain I had years earlier. Pain perception can be misleading.

Either way, injuries from pool strokes, especially big decellerations eating up a lot of force in a fixed elbow position are def possible. Even Bob has mentioned on these forums that he plays a J stroke with an elbow drop because not dropping hurts. I'm sure that gets more and more true as we get closer to OP's friend's ripe age of 82.
 
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Chopdoc said:
Funny how many people have been duped by that BS statistic.

The primary commitment of the Oath is to teach. Go read it. Then pay attention.

You are perpetuating garbage.
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What part of "I will do no harm or injustice to them" do you not understand?
 
Badpenguin said:
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What part of "I will do no harm or injustice to them" do you not understand?
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Oh! Selective quoting!

You skipped the primary commitment!

LOL!

Beyond that, you will notice it does not say "first do no harm". LOL!

I teach a class on the Oath. Your reading comprehension has led you to the most common error people make. You skipped the primary commitment and inserted a word later.

Why? Bias and ignorance.

"First do no harm" is not in the Oath. It's a derived principle, similar to separation of church and state in the US, which is derived and not stated in the Constitution.
 
Chopdoc said:
Oh! Selective quoting!

You skipped the primary commitment!

LOL!

Beyond that, you will notice it does not say "first do no harm". LOL!

I teach a class on the Oath. Your reading comprehension has led you to the most common error people make. You skipped the primary commitment and inserted a word later.

Why? Bias and ignorance.

"First do no harm" is not in the Oath. It's a derived principle, similar to separation of church and state in the US, which is derived and not stated in the Constitution.
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Are you saying that the Oath does not include that sentence, and since it isn't in the same paragraph, that it doesn't mean anything?

No wonder American health care is complete garbage.
 
WobblyStroke said:
I'm sure that gets more and more true as we get closer to OP's friend's ripe age of 82.
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In addition to other comorbid age related changes, including, but not limited to degenerative changes in the spine and other relevant joints, as well as vascular changes.

Such changes can complicate conservative interventions such as PT maneuvers and exercises, even to the point of making them dangerous. Exacerbating the inflammation, causing further injury becomes a very real possibility. This even extends to vascular complications, including potential arterial dissection and stroke. I have seen that happen.
 
Badpenguin said:
Are you saying that the Oath does not include that sentence, and since it isn't in the same paragraph, that it doesn't mean anything?

No wonder American health care is complete garbage.
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LOL! Read what I said. You are wrong and making a false argument based on false notions.

I do not say what you claim I say.

You're having a lot of trouble understanding any of this.
 
Chopdoc said:
Oh! Selective quoting!

You skipped the primary commitment!

LOL!

Beyond that, you will notice it does not say "first do no harm". LOL!

I teach a class on the Oath. Your reading comprehension has led you to the most common error people make. You skipped the primary commitment and inserted a word later.

Why? Bias and ignorance.

"First do no harm" is not in the Oath. It's a derived principle, similar to separation of church and state in the US, which is derived and not stated in the Constitution.
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You definitely prescribe Cialis to people for a minor headache. LOL
 
Chopdoc said:
You're a sweetheart Mr. Keyboard warrior. LOL! :ROFLMAO:🤪

Why don't you take your crap back to NPR?
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I'm sure you know this or do you? MD is a lifestyle. You're the 9-5 MD. Clock in. Clock out.

Why doctors shouldn't diagnose over the internet:
  • Lack of physical examination and context:
    A doctor needs to examine the patient, understand their medical history, and perform necessary tests to make an accurate diagnosis.

  • Overlapping symptoms:
    Many conditions share similar symptoms, making it difficult to determine the root cause without a thorough evaluation.

  • Inaccurate information:
    The internet is filled with both reliable and unreliable information, making it difficult for untrained individuals to discern accuracy.

  • Potential for delayed care:
    A misdiagnosis can lead to the wrong treatment, potentially worsening the condition or delaying proper medical attention.

  • Ethical concerns:
    Doctors have a responsibility to provide the best possible care, which requires a thorough assessment and evaluation.
 
WobblyStroke said:
A fixed elbow will eat the force of a strong stroke that would otherwise go into an elbow drop. For the most part, the triceps tendon will get most stressed and could even get damaged...which takes super long to properly heal. This strain on the triceps tendon can cause some inflamation in the area and this is what really causes flare ups in previous injuries in the elbow joint...even if the affected ligaments don't seem to be involved in stroking, or really, decellerating the stroke with a fixed elbow. So ye, believe him lol.

Another factor is that pain and how it is perceived is weird in the body so they may have a strained triceps tendon and attribute that to their old familiar injury. I know I was pretty surprised to find out that plantar fascitis, on the very bottom of the foot, was causing the radiating pain on top of my foot which felt exactly like a lisfranc sprain I had years earlier. Pain perception can be misleading.

Either way, injuries from pool strokes, especially big decellerations eating up a lot of force in a fixed elbow position are def possible. Even Bob has mentioned on these forums that he plays a J stroke with an elbow drop because not dropping hurts. I'm sure that gets more and more true as we get closer to OP's friend's ripe age of 82.
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So in my case it is minor pain and only flares up randomly once or twice a month. Easy to live with. But out of curiosity, is this a tendon tear or nerve damage that will take a long time to heal or is it permanent? What exactly happened physically? And how could I have caused this in only a few hours of play? Thanks

Btw I am fit, at the time I was able to do things like strict ring muscle ups, 20 pulls at a time, etc.
 
I got tennis elbow years ago from actually playing tennis. It was pretty bad and took forever to really get better. Golf would aggravate it some as well as some things in the gym. But it had been mostly gone for years until this last year or so when it started flaring up again. Pool would definitely bother it because it would be sore after, but I wasn't sure if pool or the gym was the cause of it coming back. The two things that changed around a similar time frame were my switch to playing with carbon shafts (Revo) and starting back at the gym.

It's stopped bother me recently and I'm still not sure if it's because of changes in the gym (typical program changes but doing different exercises than last year) or the fact that I switched my playing cue from the very hard hitting Revo to a much softer hitting Jacoby Black V4. Now the change to Jacoby was more about just liking a cue from them and wanting something local, I loved the performance of the Revo and still do, but does have me wondering if the Revo play shaft was contributing to my tennis elbow pain.

I'm still using my BK Rush and Air Rush so those haven't changed.

Regardless, I'm just happy it seems to be better now.
 
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