Reyes Vs Parica

arian dacongan said:
Mr. wilson,

i apologized sir,,, i just don't understand how this person can post something like this arrogantly....complete disregard to facts which if you read the posts i made,, you would see that over over again i was asking hail m,,, to show facts that reyes is 2nd only to parica,,,

then i mentioned how he made a generalization of filipinos as having badside of not paying debts...i feel like it's very offensive and racial in content....

Mr. wilson...i have been following AZ for may many years now, and i enjoy it and have alot of respect for the knowledge of the AZers...i did not decide to join it 'till last year and if you recall, Ms. linda carter(rackemsucker) was the one got me in by talking to you because i was having trouble with my email when we were at the IPT in vegas,,,
i hardly post and reply as you see,,,but when i see that this guy(hail m...) is just posting irresponsible post which to me is a disrespect to the knowledge and decency of this forum,,,i decided to respond,,

i apologized to you mr. wilson but not to hail m,,, it was wrong of me to take it this far...

if you look at the back and forths of the posts it's clear that this guy is not factual and resorts to misinformations...

anyways,,i will cease from replying to this idiot...
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Mr. Wilson asked you to stop attacking him (Hail Mary) because you disagree with him but you had to get just one last shot in huh? How sincere is your apology if you just did it again? I see what your point was Hail Mary and understand where you are coming from but when you start going into personal attacks instead of sticking to the facts and being civil, you will never get anywhere with a discussion (not agruement). JMHO

BVal
 
parica

Cardinal_Syn said:
gees you guys are giving me a headache......here's what showed up on Wikipedia:

Career History
2005 2005 US Open, 2nd place
2004 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, November 20-21 Stop, Berlin, Connecticut, first place[5]
2004 Brunswick Men's Pro Player Championship, 2nd place[5]
2003 Great Seminole Senior Open, 1st place[1]
2003 Pechauer Nine-ball West Coast Tour, Season Finale, 1st place[1]
2003 Derby City Classic, One-pocket Champion[1]
2003 Derby City Classic, Over-all Bonus Round, 2nd place[1]
2003 US Open, 2nd place[1]
2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 2, 1st place[6][7]
2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 4, 1st place[6][8]
2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 5, 2nd place[6][9]
2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Season Finale, 2nd place[1]
2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 20, 2nd place[1]
2003 Predator Atlanta Nine-ball Open, 2nd place[1]
2002 Derby City Classic, All-around Champion[6]
2002 Derby City Classic, One-pocket Division, 2nd place[6]
2002 Capital City Classic, One-pocket Champion[6]
2002 Hard Times Summer Jamboree, One-pocket Champion[6]
2002 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 24, 2nd place[6][10]
2002 Atlanta Pro Open, 2nd place[6]
2002 Senior Masters III, 2nd place[6]
2001 Derby City Classic, Nine-ball Banks Champion[11]
2001 Karabatsos Invitational Tournament, 2nd place.[11]
2001 BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, Men's Division, 2nd place[11]
2001 Reno Open, 2nd place[11]
2000 Hard Times Winter Jamboree, Nine-ball Division, 1st place[12]
2000 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 11, 1st place[11][13]
2000 Joss Northeast Tour Nine-ball, Stop 4, 2nd place[12]
2000 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 13, 2nd place[11][14]
1998 8th Annual Andy Mercer Memorial Nine-ball Classic
1997 PBT Legends of Nine-ball, 1st place[15]
1997 Camel Overall Winner
1997 Camel Boston Open, 1st place[15]
1997 Camel South Jersey Open, 1st place[15]
1997 PCA Sharky's Challenge, 1st place[15]
1996 PBT Darafeev Pro 9-Ball Classic, 1st place
1996 Lion's Den Tournament, Las Vegas, NV
1996 Shooter's Open Championships
1995 On Cue Billiards Tournament, La Mesa, CA
1994 Tommy's Billiards Tournament, Mesa, AZ
World Team Championship (Team Philippines)[not specific enough to verify]
1992 Philippine Nine-ball Open Championship
1991 Florida State Open
1991 Ohio State Open
1990 Tennessee Bar Table Championship
1990 Florida State Open
1990 Ohio State Open
1990 World Pro Nine-ball Championship (Japan)
1990 Jupiter Open
1989 World Pro Nine-ball Championship (Japan)
1989 International Open 9-Ball
1989 Philippine Nine-ball Open Cahmpionship
1988 Gandy Open
1988 Japan Open
1988 World Pro Tournament
1988 Gandy Open
1986 Great American Open
1986 Clyde Childress Open, Classic Cup V USPPA Pro, first place[15]
1982 Playboy All-around Classic
1980 International,[not specific enough to verify] Taiwan, All-around Champion
1980 Philippine Nine-ball Open Championship
1979 Japan Open
1978 International,[not specific enough to verify] Japan, All-around Champion
Philippine Hall of Fame awardee

[edit] Other Results
13th place, 2005 Pechauer West Coast Tour Stop
20th place, 2005 Derby City Classic Bank Division
24th place, 2005 Derby City Classic One Pocket
15th place, 2005 Derby City Classic 9-Ball
9th place, 2005 Turning Stone Classic
13th place, 2005 US Bar Table Championship 9-Ball Division
33rd place, 2005 US Bar Table Championship 8-Ball Division
33rd place, 2005 Reno Open
7th place, 2005 Big Apple 9-Ball Classic
5th place, 2005 Joss NE 9-Ball Tour Season Finale
13th place, 2005 Senior Masters VI
7th place, 2005 Reno Open
29th place, 2005 IPT King of the Hill 8-Ball Shoot Out
4th place, 2005 Skins Billiard Championship
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NONE OF THESE ARE U.S. MAJORS,,,GREAT TOURNAMENTS BUT NO MAJOR HE WON EXCEPT DCC IF REALLY ALL AZeRS CONSIDERS DCC A MAJOR.

MY POINT IS THAT SINCE ARRIVING IN AMERICA, MR JOSE HAS NEVER WON A MAJOR TOURNAMENT...IF YOU CONSIDER DCC AS A MAJOR- WHICH FORGIVE ME IF I WAS WRONG- MANY DO NOT CONSIDER AS MAJOR SUCH AS THE WPT OR U.S. OPEN,,THEN HE WON 1 MAJOR,,,,
BUT HOW IS THIS MAKES REYES 2ND TO PARICA,,THAT IS THE DEBATE...AND TO ARROGANTLY CLAIM THAT REYES NEEDS WEIGHT IS JUST OUTRAGEUOUS...MY POINT IS HAIL MARY HAS NO RESPECT FOR THIS FORUM,,HE THINKS PEOPLE HERE ARE NOVICE AND STUPID...
 
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arian dacongan said:
MY POINT IS THAT SINCE ARRIVING IN AMERICA, MR JOSE HAS NEVER WON A MAJOR TOURNAMENT...IF YOU CONSIDER DCC AS A MAJOR- WHICH FORGIVE ME IF I WAS WRONG- MANY DO NOT CONSIDER AS MAJOR SUCH AS THE WPT OR U.S. OPEN,,THEN HE WON 1 MAJOR,,,,

BUT HOW IS THIS MAKES REYES 2ND TO PARICA,,THAT IS THE DEBATE...AND TO ARROGANTLY CLAIM THAT REYES NEEDS WEIGHT IS JUST OUTRAGEUOUS...MY POINT IS HAIL MARY HAS NO RESPECT FOR THIS FORUM,,HE THINKS PEOPLE HERE ARE NOVICE AND STUPID...
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I am not defending anybody here but for YOU to say you know what Hail Mary thinks about the people on AZB is quite arrogant in it's own right. I don't necassarily agree with Hail Mary either but he has the right to have his own opinion - factual based or not and you have to be able to respect that. Everyone has a right to have their own opinion whether you like it or not. Again JMHO.

BVal
 
As I Have Said

BVal said:
Mr. Wilson asked you to stop attacking him (Hail Mary) because you disagree with him but you had to get just one last shot in huh? How sincere is your apology if you just did it again? I see what your point was Hail Mary and understand where you are coming from but when you start going into personal attacks instead of sticking to the facts and being civil, you will never get anywhere with a discussion (not agruement). JMHO

BVal
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I APOLOGIZED TO MR. WILSON AND THE REST OF AZers EXCEPT TO THIS #%&)!#...
 
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BVal said:
I am not defending anybody here but for YOU to say you know what Hail Mary thinks about the people on AZB is quite arrogant in it's own right. I don't necassarily agree with Hail Mary either but he has the right to have his own opinion - factual based or not and you have to be able to respect that. Everyone has a right to have their own opinion whether you like it or not. Again JMHO.
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BVal
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he has the right to his own opinion,,,but for goodness sake,,,if your opinions are merely to antagonize people,,,at least support it with facts,,,

the racial thing is what set me -off( it's the grady matthews thread where parica supposedly stifferd grady for $600.)
that's why i think he has no regards for this forum is because he is not factual...if i am wrong about a thread i started,,i will apologize but nor resort to childish talks,,,
 
arian dacongan said:
he has the right to his own opinion,,,but for goodness sake,,,if your opinions are merely to antagonize people,,,at least support it with facts,,,

the racial thing is what set me -off( it's the grady matthews thread where parica supposedly stifferd grady for $600.)
that's why i think he has no regards for this forum is because he is not factual...if i am wrong about a thread i started,,i will apologize but nor resort to childish talks,,,
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Stop masking your true intentions in this thread. it's all about you getting personal just becoz you FEEL that a dog is a cat in your own vocabulary. you didn't start this thread, you hijacked it for your own personal vendetta against me and even BVal noticed it. take your fecal matter insults where they should belong. why? are you embarrassed to even start your own thread regarding your qualmish behavior? or is it even allowed to being posted? why? maybe becoz you're clearly off the line. go somewhere else and start a meaningful life.

you are not interested about the facts so there is no point in explaining them to you. even if you were already given the facts, it was obvious that it won't satisfy you since your main objective here is to lambast me with your lowly street insults. you wanted to enter into a petty quarrel rather than a civil discussion. I can see right thru you from the beginning and obviously you don't see me nor you see yourself. it is embarrassing to even think for a second that you refer to "many" when it is only you who has a personal bickering on this matter. don't include others that don't have anything to do with your rude behavior coz those guys aren't rude like you. don't put them on the same low level that you are in.

I see that you develop a clear fixation on me. why thank you very much! I haven't encountered a melo-dramatic person in a while. guess your fave songs are "You give love a bad name", "Crying in the Rain", and "Can't cry hard enough". lol!

Me? a racist? lol. Probably English is not even your second language since you can't read between the lines. why? do you cut phrases from a sentence and make your own definition out of it and get pissed off by it? please, be my guest. I'll be extremely happy to see the way you are going. cry all you want, be mad. I'll be so so happy and laughing all day, all night long of how you can't comprehend. by the way, do you even know what comprehend is? :D :D :D

go back to school, hero !

GRADY MATTHEWS IS A GOD, and PARICA is only HUMAN ! :D :D :D
 
Man, I don't know what half of you guys think, but ANYONE can get ALL of my money if Perica and Efren play. I'd take Efren in 9-ball, 8-ball, Straight pool, 1P, and I'd even gamble a little with the 9ball Banks.
I'm not going to argue with anyone that Efren is the better player - no need for that - if they ever match up just call me and I'll put some cash on it.
 
I never had the chance to follow all their successes and failures, but I know both are above the rests. Some say any player can beat another player on any given day, so if you match them up, I don't think you know who will win. But I like Parica to be inducted to HOF, it's about time and he deserves it more than anybody.
 
that would be a pool gambler's dream moneygame matchup if that ever happens. maybe some good people around here establish that kinda setup at HT? since both players gamble with other opponents, they might as well have a shot at each other.
 
Hail Mary Shot said:
that would be a pool gambler's dream moneygame matchup if that ever happens. maybe some good people around here establish that kinda setup at HT? since both players gamble with other opponents, they might as well have a shot at each other.
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Yes it would be good to watch but most of the filipinos will not play each other outside of the Phillipines. No telling today who would win in head to head. But back in the day in their own country Parica often won. Now I was not there and I do admit this is only what I have heard elsewhere.:)
 
This thread started with a clearly misled post and sparked much silly bickering. I am worse off for having followed it.
 
this guy a novice

this Guy Started A Thread**who Is Alex Pagulayan?
CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS??? ANYONE SHOULD SEE WHAT THIS GUY IS MADE OF.

HIS POINTS ARE MISLEADING AND FALSE.

he Started This Thread On A Subject That He Doesn't Know About,,,he Really Thinks That The Peolple Here In Az Are Novice Like Him

I JUST HOPE NEXT TIME THIS GUY WISED-UP FIRST BEFORE BEING ASSERTIVE LIKE THIS ON SUBJECT HE DOEN'T KNOW ABOUT!!!
 
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rackem said:
Yes it would be good to watch but most of the filipinos will not play each other outside of the Phillipines. No telling today who would win in head to head. But back in the day in their own country Parica often won. Now I was not there and I do admit this is only what I have heard elsewhere.:)
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Parica is also older than Efren. And in those days money games between players weren't much of substantial amount. Maybe P20,000 a set was tops. This was late 70's or early 80's at Lucky 13 or at Jose's father's little pool hall in Tondo, Manila.
Efren played Jose some rotation and beat him often I am told but Efren was getting a little spot. Efren claimed he did not need that spot but Jose needed an excuse for losing so Jose kept the spot.
Jose might have Efren's number on the finals of major tournaments here ( the last Legends of 9-Ball at the Commerce Casino and the Pechauer Tournament at the Hollywood, Jose drilled Efren ) but the two meeting in the finals of a tourney here is not that often.
I still think if you put major money on the table and there are 15-balls in the table, Efren beats Parica in any game.
 
arian dacongan said:
NONE OF THESE ARE U.S. MAJORS,,,GREAT TOURNAMENTS BUT NO MAJOR HE WON EXCEPT DCC IF REALLY ALL AZeRS CONSIDERS DCC A MAJOR.

MY POINT IS THAT SINCE ARRIVING IN AMERICA, MR JOSE HAS NEVER WON A MAJOR TOURNAMENT...IF YOU CONSIDER DCC AS A MAJOR- WHICH FORGIVE ME IF I WAS WRONG- MANY DO NOT CONSIDER AS MAJOR SUCH AS THE WPT OR U.S. OPEN,,THEN HE WON 1 MAJOR,,,,
BUT HOW IS THIS MAKES REYES 2ND TO PARICA,,THAT IS THE DEBATE...AND TO ARROGANTLY CLAIM THAT REYES NEEDS WEIGHT IS JUST OUTRAGEUOUS...MY POINT IS HAIL MARY HAS NO RESPECT FOR THIS FORUM,,HE THINKS PEOPLE HERE ARE NOVICE AND STUPID...
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In '97 the Camel Pro Billiards tour was the shit and Jose won it overall with $50,000 in bonus money and won the South Jersey Open which had the most added money I believe in the world that year, along with the Denver stop.

unknownpro
 
Hail Mary Shot said:
I guess Parica is Reyes' bogeyman when it comes to these games.
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Billiards Digest had a big article on Parica where he was pissed about possibly not getting into the hall of fame like Efren, especially when Jose said he took Efren's money.

All I have to say, even though I like Jose, is: YEAH, RIGHT. In your dreams. He is in the same boat as Jeanette Lee who thinks she is the most talented woman pool player in the world.
 
whitewolf said:
Billiards Digest had a big article on Parica where he was pissed about possibly not getting into the hall of fame like Efren, especially when Jose said he took Efren's money.

All I have to say, even though I like Jose, is: YEAH, RIGHT. In your dreams. He is in the same boat as Jeanette Lee who thinks she is the most talented woman pool player in the world.
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I thought that Allison Fisher said that ! :D :D :D
 
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