Rhino CF shafts....159bux, free ship

axejunkie:

"I see the blind lead the blind
In the search for the mind
But I know what they'll find
and it's gonna be a grind
to examine humankind
it will put you in a bind
before the contract's signed"
 
Maniac said:
axejunkie:

"I see the blind lead the blind
In the search for the mind
But I know what they'll find
and it's gonna be a grind
to examine humankind
it will put you in a bind
before the contract's signed"
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Lol....good one. But I needed a break shaft anyway and this one was less $ than I could get in old school wood. Also, I'm using the word "needed" cuz it's helpful in my marriage...
 
iusedtoberich said:
Update on my end: I played a bunch of racks with the shaft. I do now believe the deflection is higher than a Revo. It's close, but higher. A lifelong Predator player may not want the change. I did not do specific deflection tests, just going by the shots I made vs the shots I missed. I may do some specific tests to find the pivot point of this and my 314's and Revo's later. For me personally, I'll probably keep buying Predator. YMMV.
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Its not $250 worse i can tell you that. I'd prefer not to pay for Pred's advertising budget, sponsoring players, etc. That's the shit that drives up prices, just like golf clubs. Revo is a fine shaft but it and other 'big name' shafts are way over-priced.
 
garczar said:
Its not $250 worse i can tell you that. I'd prefer not to pay for Pred's advertising budget, sponsoring players, etc. That's the shit that drives up prices, just like golf clubs. Revo is a fine shaft but it and other 'big name' shafts are way over-priced.
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By that logic, we’d all be using Mali cues with LePro tips till today.

It’s not just advertising. I’ll say it again: since 1994 or whenever the 314 came out, no manufacturer has matched Predator’s low deflection. In both the wood days and now the CF days.

This Rhino is close. It’s the best value by far for CF. But it’s not for a lifelong Predator player, imo. Any other player I’d say it’s a strong buy.

Predator started, and continuously led, two revolutions in pool: The low deflection hollow shaft era. And the carbon fiber era.

That’s not just marketing mumbo jumbo.
 
iusedtoberich said:
By that logic, we’d all be using Mali cues with LePro tips till today.

It’s not just advertising. I’ll say it again: since 1994 or whenever the 314 came out, no manufacturer has matched Predator’s low deflection. In both the wood days and now the CF days.

This Rhino is close. It’s the best value by far for CF. But it’s not for a lifelong Predator player, imo. Any other player I’d say it’s a strong buy.

Predator started, and continuously led, two revolutions in pool: The low deflection hollow shaft era. And the carbon fiber era.

That’s not just marketing mumbo jumbo.
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What tip diameter did you get on your Rhino? Is it the same as your Revo?

Looking forward to hearing the results of your pivot point tests on both.
 
JolietJames said:
Buddy bought the playing shaft and said it plays exactly like his revo but has a different sound. He put a different tip on it now and is trying it for breaking duty.
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My results were opposite
More deflection and alittle less energy transfer
That’s why after the holiday shipping season is over I plan to put mine up for sale for $125
 
I got the entire Nebula cue the other day. 12.4 mm. I'm glad I got the green, it's dark and nice looking. I've owned Revo 12.4 and 12.9. If there is a difference in deflection or energy transfer, I can't tell. If there is it must be small enough not to matter. very smooth and good feedback. It definitely moves the ball easier than my Joss HP shaft. Deflection is very low. As far as scratching it, I've only put in about 8 hours with it so far. Hopefully I won't scratch it.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Does anyone know how the deflection compares to similar diameter Predator shafts?
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See my review of the 12.5 Rhino here, where I measure its deflection compared to a Cynergy 12.5 (and the numbers for the Revo are out there, 19" I believe)

Rhino shaft buyers, let 'er rip.......

Well i started this little AZ buying frenzie so lets hear some takes, the good/bad/ugly. Feel free to talk about the shaft(s) itself, cust. service, whatever's in your head. Me personally am really digging the shaft. I've tested a bunch but this is 1st cf purchase. I have zero complaints, the...
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garczar said:
My Mezz is .840ish. Shaft fits very close, just a smidge off. Nothing to sweat. Site says 'perfect fit with a 21.5mm joint' That is .846"
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21.5mm. is their standard. My Schuler is 22mm, and they said they can do that for a smidge more.
 
iusedtoberich said:
By that logic, we’d all be using Mali cues with LePro tips till today.

It’s not just advertising. I’ll say it again: since 1994 or whenever the 314 came out, no manufacturer has matched Predator’s low deflection. In both the wood days and now the CF days.

This Rhino is close. It’s the best value by far for CF. But it’s not for a lifelong Predator player, imo. Any other player I’d say it’s a strong buy.

Predator started, and continuously led, two revolutions in pool: The low deflection hollow shaft era. And the carbon fiber era.

That’s not just marketing mumbo jumbo.
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what i tried, unsuccessfully i guess, is to say that much of Predator's price goes into paying their huge advertising/promotion budget. the Revo is easily $150+ overpriced. they've recouped all their development costs by now, more like a couple yrs ago, and are making a killing on their shafts. Predator has done a good job building their cult-like following. Everything they peddle is over-priced but they get it from their fans. Ping golf clubs are same thing, overpriced but have legions of fans.
 
garczar said:
what i tried, unsuccessfully i guess, is to say that much of Predator's price goes into paying their huge advertising/promotion budget. the Revo is easily $150+ overpriced. they've recouped all their development costs by now, more like a couple yrs ago, and are making a killing on their shafts. Predator has done a good job building their cult-like following. Everything they peddle is over-priced but they get it from their fans. Ping golf clubs are same thing, overpriced but have legions of fans.
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I respect your opinion. I'll just agree to disagree. In everything in life there are various price points. The price point does not need to reflect manufacturing cost, or company overall overhead (marketing, RD, operations, etc.) Predator products are worth every cent, IMO, and in the opinions of hundreds of thousands of players worldwide.

Actually when I first tried their shaft in 1998 or so, I had not even seen any advertisement. I screwed it onto my cue, and it was night and day different than any other cue I had tried before. I feel most who play a Predator feel the same. As loyal as I am, if this Rhino for 160 played exactly the same, I'd have no problem switching. It does not.
 
Brothers, I have achieved a transient bliss this very weekend, for I have obtained both a Rhino break shaft plus a Breville Smart Oven Air Fryer Pro. I'll be dining on perfect buffalo chicken wings and running racks henceforth. I have pleaded to the gods for deliverance from my suffering, and my cries have reached their rarified ears. My only fear is that I shall run a deficit of blue cheese dressing and Taom V 10 chalk. Pray for me friends.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Update on my end: I played a bunch of racks with the shaft. I do now believe the deflection is higher than a Revo. It's close, but higher. A lifelong Predator player may not want the change. I did not do specific deflection tests, just going by the shots I made vs the shots I missed. I may do some specific tests to find the pivot point of this and my 314's and Revo's later. For me personally, I'll probably keep buying Predator. YMMV.
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It’s higher than a Revo.
 
Cornerman said:
It’s higher than a Revo.
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Didn't have a REVO at hand but i did have a bud's Ignite which is very lo-squirt. The Rhino has a tiny bit more deflection than the Mezz and about the same as a 12.5Cynergy. I would never pay the extra 250+ for such a small difference in deflection. The Mezz is nearly 600 retail, that's insane.
 
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