Ring Game in Starkville,MS- Very disapointing

vagabond

vagabond

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Howdy Folks,
Five of the scheduled players did not show up for unknown reasons.Then they started looking for players to fill the vacancies.Finally they started it at 10Pm( was supposed to start at 8PM) with only 4 players.
Yobagua,you did not miss much.Think twice before u plan on attending a ring Game.Players are not dependable. cheers
Vagabond
 
This is why attendance is low

Man Im glad they called me into work. I missed the Kenner/New Orleans match that was canceled and now this. I hope Grady's Gulfport jamboree goes on as scheduled. Ill see you and Hemi there I hope. Thanks
 
vagabond said:
Howdy Folks,
Five of the scheduled players did not show up for unknown reasons.Then they started looking for players to fill the vacancies.Finally they started it at 10Pm( was supposed to start at 8PM) with only 4 players.
Yobagua,you did not miss much.Think twice before u plan on attending a ring Game.Players are not dependable. cheers
Vagabond
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Vagabond speaks the truth folks, with this exception. Any player invited to future Southern Billiards Ring Games will be required to post a $500, (NON REFUNDABLE), deposit to assure a position in the game. In the event of his failure to appear and post the remainder of the required entry fee, the $500 deposit will be added to the total purse of the Ring Game.

I believe the promoters of future Ring Games will Follow the Professor's lead in this requirement. This not only protects the integrity of the Ring Game but pays tribute to other players that did post their required ($1,500) in this case, such as, Denver Barger, Johnathan Hennessee, Chuck Raulston and George Breedlove.

So, my buddy Yobagua can travel to Starkville for the Fall Follies Ring Game, knowing that it will come off as planned.
 
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Grady said:
Please note that I took care of $60,000 worth of ring game cash without a problem.
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And a great job you did too Grady. This years DCC was, in my opinion, the greatest pool event I have ever witnessed. You had the top players on earth and the strongest backers. The two Ring Games you held were a joy to behold. The 3rd and 4th Ring Game, that were announced, were a bit more dificult to get backers for, I understand that. The quality of player would have dropped off a bit and the backers were not as interested.

That is similar to the problems Professor Gilmer, in Starkville and Jamie Farrell, in New orleans had with their smaller Ring Games. Jamie was forced to cancel his Ring Game, while the Professor, with the help of one 19 year old player, Chuck Raulston, with the heart of a lion, putting up his own money, was able to pull the Ring Game off.

Ring Games with top 10-20 players on earth might get away with not having to make the players post up money but a Ring Game with lesser players that are totally dependant on backers should be required to post a portion of the entry fee. This is not only fair but should be expected by other players and fans alike.

Grady Mathews runs a top notch tournament. None better in the country. But, even the "Great Professor Grady" can't be in more than one place at a time. As I have stated before, if I was having a Top Ten player Ring Game and tournament, Grady would be running mine. My hat is off to you sir and my hat doesn't come off very often.
 
vagabond said:
Howdy Folks,
Five of the scheduled players did not show up for unknown reasons.Then they started looking for players to fill the vacancies.Finally they started it at 10Pm( was supposed to start at 8PM) with only 4 players.
Yobagua,you did not miss much.Think twice before u plan on attending a ring Game.Players are not dependable. cheers
Vagabond
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And this suprises no one... :mad:
 
Gremlin said:
Cheese,

Vagabond is a pretty good gambler himself and he should have played in the ring game. Sorry Cheese it doesn't suprise me. All you hear in the pool underworld is he has heart, she has heart, or they have heart when it comes to gamblers.

You never hear or see the words chracter, integrity, dignity or shame. One night they play for $10,000.00 and the next night they can't find $1,500.00 for a ring game? They should be ashamed of themselves! They should be barred form all future ring games and tournaments.

One thing for sure gamblers words can't be trusted. :mad:

Gremlin :cool:
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Tellum what ya really think Green Guy! Can't argue with any of that. BUT, when they have "UP" money posted, they can be a bit more trustworthy.
 
You guys are forgetting that this is really gambling and hardly any of these guys would get into this type of game on their own money if one were proposed at random.

I feel that the Ring game format is a valid one that might be the way for pool to go mainstream but for now it's TOUGH action. I prefer the Poker tournament format. Have a lower entry fee, lot's of tables in play and the table winners advance to the main table for the cheese. THEN you'll see some action.

I was ALL ready to come down to the last one with a 500 entry fee but I decided not to fade it when the entry jumped to $1500. And I am most definitely THE weakest player who was ready to part with $500. If you had ring game type tournaments with forced bets for a $200 entries with NICE payouts then I would go to as many as I could get to.

John
 
instroke said:
You guys are forgetting that this is really gambling and hardly any of these guys would get into this type of game on their own money if one were proposed at random.

I feel that the Ring game format is a valid one that might be the way for pool to go mainstream but for now it's TOUGH action. I prefer the Poker tournament format. Have a lower entry fee, lot's of tables in play and the table winners advance to the main table for the cheese. THEN you'll see some action.

I was ALL ready to come down to the last one with a 500 entry fee but I decided not to fade it when the entry jumped to $1500. And I am most definitely THE weakest player who was ready to part with $500. If you had ring game type tournaments with forced bets for a $200 entries with NICE payouts then I would go to as many as I could get to.

John
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John, I've been saying the same thing for some time now. I LIKE IT. I think many others would too. All you have to do is POST so you can get to the POST and if you get lucky advance to the big table. Good idea, John. Could put this game back on TV. Maybe even live. With cameras jumping from table to table.
 
Hi all, I think thats a good idea. How about blind draw with around 20 players or more. 4-6 players to a table and the last 2 advance to the next table. You could even separate a-b-c class players to give everyone a chance to cash. Pay back to about 20% of the field. The way they do the a-b-c tournaments here, the a-b players in a bracket and the c players in a different bracket. Lots of possible variations there. Sam
 
satman said:
Hi all, I think thats a good idea. How about blind draw with around 20 players or more. 4-6 players to a table and the last 2 advance to the next table. You could even separate a-b-c class players to give everyone a chance to cash. Pay back to about 20% of the field. The way they do the a-b-c tournaments here, the a-b players in a bracket and the c players in a different bracket. Lots of possible variations there. Sam
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I agree totally with the first half of that, Sam. BUT,,,,,I have seen more big time arguements and fights about who is an, A-B or C player. It is much easier if it is a local tournament, where all players are known. Though I've seen fights about the B to C players, locally. I use to get in ring games with players I needed the 7 ball from. As you know, if you get good rolls, hell, you just might win.

The idea I had and I think John did too, was no handicap. You don't have handicaps in poker and they come from every where to play. The Ring Game concept, in it self, is an equalizer. Especially a 10 ball Ring Game. That one extra ball makes a lot of difference when trying to string racks together.

The blind draw idea is perfect. It can be an equalizer too. I know this concept will give the lesser player a better chance to collect $$$$$$$.

Jamie Farrell has allready tried this Ring Game tournament idea at his Corner Pocket, in Kenner, LA, with great success. The local players love it.
 
Hemi, They run a lot of the a-b-c tournaments up here. If someone don't like the bracket they're in they don't have to play. Unknown players are voted on and c players are still at a disadvantage even in a ring game. Sam
 
i just want everyone to know brian groce didnt back out. i was staking brian and denver and was going to put both in as long as there was a full field. when there was only 3 other people i couldnt put both in because of the horrible money odds. just wanted to clear that up
thanks big pun
 
satman said:
Hemi, They run a lot of the a-b-c tournaments up here. If someone don't like the bracket they're in they don't have to play. Unknown players are voted on and c players are still at a disadvantage even in a ring game. Sam
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I hear ya Sam. The A-B-C tournaments they run up there are not ring game type tourneys are they? I can see a B-C Ring Game tournament and a seperate A tournament. As a matter of fact, that is how Jamie is running his. Combined B and C. No, you are right, a true C player wouldn't want to play in one of Grady's A++ player Ring Games, lol. Not even the Southern Billiards, A, player game.

All in all, we are talking about the same thing. This has to be a better, more interesting and equal tournament format.
 
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Thank you Bill, for the compliment. I believe that both ring games were a success, despite the short numbers in the second game. This time around was simply a learning experience. In the future money will have to be posted. What everyone needs to realize is that these ring games may be the future of pool, and we should all work together to make them be as successful as possible. I would also like to thank Professor and his staff and family at Southern Billiards for holding a great event.

Chuck Raulston
 
Chuck Raulston said:
Thank you Bill, for the compliment. I believe that both ring games were a success, despite the short numbers in the second game. This time around was simply a learning experience. In the future money will have to be posted. What everyone needs to realize is that these ring games may be the future of pool, and we should all work together to make them be as successful as possible. I would also like to thank Professor and his staff and family at Southern Billiards for holding a great event.

Chuck Raulston
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Hey Chuck, you played great in the first ring game, and showed a lot of heart in the second. I'll take part of the action again in the fall if you come.
Carlton
 
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Thanks a lot Carlton, I appreciate your support. I will do my best to be back in the Fall.

Chuck Raulston
 
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