Ring Game rule question

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SKUNKBOY

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Ususally, when we play a ring game (9-ball), we pay on the 5 and 9. If a money ball (5 or 9) is made out of sequence, it get spotted and the shooter continues. So here's what happened and my question...

The legal ball was the 4, it was leagally hit and the 5 ball was made in combination while, during the same shot, the 4 ball went as well. I said spot the 5 and continue and somebody else said the 5 stays down. How would you call this? I know it is probably something that needs to be addressed before the match, but sometime you just can't think of every scenerio in the beginning...next time it will be addressed prior to the game.

I'm pretty sure I'm right but this thread might help resolve this situation in the future. I guess the same thing could happen with the 8 and 9 ball combination as well.

Thanks...Ken
 
We Play 3,5, And 9 Money Balls In Our Ring Game. This Happened To Me Just The Other Day And Everyone Said The Ball Did Not Get Spotted. I Also Made The 8 And 9 In The Same Shot The Week Before And They Both Stayed Down. As You Said It Should Probley Be Talked About Before You Start The Game. Hope This Helps.

Ken
 
they both stay down.he shoots the 6.gets paid for one five.he made the 5,if you spot it does the 5 get paid twice?i don't think so.all balls stay down except money balls made out of order,and the ball before the money ball made out of order.balls in the kitchen spot on scrates.imo if he made it off the 3 then it would spot unless the 3 is the ball before the money.
 
Well

no, it stays down.

We play 10 ball, never 9 ball for a ring game ... too easy, and we spot the 10 if it is made before the 5 ball, otherwise game over. We pay on 5 and 10.
Even playing 10 ball, lots of times when I am at the end of the rotation, I can end up $60-80 dollars down before I get a decent shot.

Now, if you had scratched on that shot, both 4 and 5 would have been spotted.

(same on the 8 & 9 scenario, both stay down, game over).
 
When we play. Everything spots. 9-10 combination? Spot the 10. Make the 7 and scratch? Spot the 7. In your situation, we would spot it. But those are the rules in our game. We all know the rules around here. A newcomer is expected to know the rules already.
 
It stays down it was a 4 and 5 combo whether or not the four went in or not.

If it was a 3 and 5 combo it then spots up.

That is how we typically play it when I have always been...of course, different areas of the country play by different rules. We also pay on the 5 7 and 9.
 
It is wise to determine prior to play how many balls preceding the money ball must be on the table for the money ball to spot. The way it's usually played here, there must be at least 2 balls preceding the money ball still on the table for it to spot. Many places play only 1 ball preceding.
 
There are two main varieties of 9-ball ring-games around here. One is that all money balls spot until they fall in order, and the other variety (which is actually becoming more common) is that the 5 only spots if the 1 is still up, and the 9 only spots if the 5 is still up.

When I was coming up, the old-timers played a ring-game variation where everything spotted, plus you had to pay a penalty (worth the same as the 5-ball) every time you fouled. You payed the penalty into a pot (called "the crack"), and there was such a thing as a "double-foul", so for instance if you were playing $1 and $2, and you had to kick at a ball, and not only did you not hit it, but you scratched the cueball at the same time, you had committed a double-foul, and thus owed the crack $2, lol. The player who won the game got to pocket the "crack money" :D Also, there was no pass option in this game, so sometimes you would end up paying the crack on a shot that you normally would've passed back. :mad:

Good rolls,

Aaron
 
we always say it stays down. It's sorta like... if you sunk the 5 but not the 4, and then had to shoot the 4 next and missed... the 5 is spotted so the other player has a chance at the money, you aren't robbing him of a fair shot at the 5 when you're the one who dogged the 4. But when you make them both, you aren't robbing him of anything cuz you didn't dog the 4, you made 2 legal balls and he doesn't deserve a free shot at the money if you dog your next shot.
 
The way we play it (money balls are the 5 and the 9) is...

... in order to spot the 5, there must be one ball still on the table before the 5... so in the example given, the 5 would stay down (because the 4 was made on the same shot)

... in order to spot the 9, there must be two balls still on the table before the 9.
 
Well, I think I can sumarize these answers in two parts:) ...

1. There are way too many variations to count on one hand:eek: .

and...

2. Pick one set of rules and make sure everybody understands those rules before you start:D .

Thanks for the responses. They are all helpful. Just like Rosanne Rosannadanna used to say...."there's always somethin":p .

L8R...Ken
 
Sure thing Mark...oh wait...is that my proper way or yours???

Ken

PS...there are pics of the ISPA Tourney on the web site now.
 
i have played ring games all over the country-I love ring games. And what I noticed is everywhere had their own rules kinda like the posts in this thread, the lession is to establish the rules before the game goes off. I know the rules I like best but thats just my opinion, I go with the rules of the house.
 
Either is fine just agree up front

If I was making the rules I would say spot it

thus the 5 stays down when it is shot as the low ball on the table same for the nine.
 
Spot it

Unless the ball is the next legal ball in rotation it get spotted.But like the others said make the stipulation up before hand.
 
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