RKC Diamondizing my table as I type!

[BRKNRUN]

BRKNRUN, What type of finish is that on your pocket castings? It looks pretty good.

It is black powder coat.

I had already refinished all of the wood in a black finish...but the pocket castings and rail trim were all a dull gray and a very worn aluminum on the trim...

A local powder coat shop did all the castings, rial trim, ball counters and name plate for $110...I did the labor of removing the rail trim and pocket casting myself

 

[WKRP]

Congratulations on getting the table done. Can you ask Glen to check PMs and let me know when he is making it to Cincinnati. I've been waiting for 6 mos for him to come and fix my new Diamond table that had the slate seam pop after being installed.

 

[realkingcobra]

Congratulations on getting the table done. Can you ask Glen to check PMs and let me know when he is making it to Cincinnati. I've been waiting for 6 mos for him to come and fix my new Diamond table that had the slate seam pop after being installed.

Got a chance to finally respond to you, you're on my list of things to get done before I leave for Washington State again:grin: I'm in Chicago right now, but will be heading back to the Diamond factory by Tue at the latest. If Diamond has nothing important for me to do on Wed, I'm going to run up to your place and fix that Diamond, I'll have to find out from Brian how this is going to work on cost because I didn't set your table up but I'm sure we'll at least get it taken care of for you

Glen

 

[ososlow]

Please post the pics when he is done! The Cobra is in my timezone. Nice:grin:

 

[mdavis]

Got a chance to finally respond to you, you're on my list of things to get done before I leave for Washington State again:grin: I'm in Chicago right now, but will be heading back to the Diamond factory by Tue at the latest. If Diamond has nothing important for me to do on Wed, I'm going to run up to your place and fix that Diamond, I'll have to find out from Brian how this is going to work on cost because I didn't set your table up but I'm sure we'll at least get it taken care of for you

Glen

Wowza. I've been waiting 3 months for Glen to deliver a *NEW* 9' Pro-Am from the Diamond factory to Oregon...and I thought that was a long time...Now if we can see more posts like this, we'll know where Glen is...

 

[peter_gunn]

I'm going to Predatorize my Szamboti.

ROFL :bow-down::yes:

 

[WKRP]

Wowza. I've been waiting 3 months for Glen to deliver a *NEW* 9' Pro-Am from the Diamond factory to Oregon...and I thought that was a long time...Now if we can see more posts like this, we'll know where Glen is...

I don't think its that easy...I still haven't heard back since that post.

 

[realkingcobra]

I don't think its that easy...I still haven't heard back since that post.

OK, I've been off line for a while now, rebuilding a Diamond 7ft Professional, doing some service calls...all in the Chicago area, but I'm sitting at the back dock of the Diamond factory now. I get a little break between now and Monday to get some laundry done and clean & organize my truck again before I head out. Just got told today by Diamond that I have to deliver tables up to Maine this coming Wed/Thur...because I'm heading that way anyway...sorry Mark, I have an appointment with a recording studio on Dec 18th to make a couple of DVDs for Simonis....they've been long overdue now for about 4-5 years...but the time is at hand to get them done so Simonis can have some official instructions on how to install their cloth world wide. After the recording is done....I'm heading STRAIGHT to the Pacific Northwest....there's nothing I'd love to do than get there earlier if I could because this might just be the first Christmas I get to spend at home in the last 9 years I think:embarrassed2:

One way or another I'll get to your table buddy...I'm going as fast as I can. In my wait to leave for Maine, I'm going to be finishing up Diamonds 9ft 3C table this week as well so it's ready to get to market starting right after new years.

Glen

WKPR...I'll try and take care of your table on my way out since I have to pass right by you on the way to Maine. I'll PM you so you know for sure.

 

[mdavis]

Thanks Glen -

The 3 month delivery delay is frustrating for a new table purchase from Diamond. I understand I am just a consumer with one table purchase...and that Diamond is probably inserting lots of other orders in front of mine as a result.

I am seriously considering moving to a Gold Crown V...How bad can the table be -- it is much more aesthetically pleasing....The local Brunswick dealer told me he could deliver and setup a newly ordered Gold Crown V in less than 2 weeks.

Something I never considered when I was looking at Diamond Pro-Am's was the potential time it would require for delivery of a new table..from the factory...I had NO IDEA it could potentially take more than 1/4th of a year from deposit to delivery and setup. Is this type of lead time normal??? -- If so, I completely missed that about Diamond. I think this is a serious consideration all prospective Diamond buyers should be aware of. I'm told that the single-piece slate on the 9' Pro-Am unit makes it impossible for Diamond to ship by freight -- and that it takes someone with the skill, ingenuity for setup/install in my home, and knowledge of Glen (and there is no one else in the world, of course). I have no doubt that Glen is the best...and a Pro-Am is the best...but I might keel over before I see a Diamond table

 

[mdavis]

OK, I've been off line for a while now, rebuilding a Diamond 7ft Professional, doing some service calls...all in the Chicago area, but I'm sitting at the back dock of the Diamond factory now. I get a little break between now and Monday to get some laundry done and clean & organize my truck again before I head out. Just got told today by Diamond that I have to deliver tables up to Maine this coming Wed/Thur...because I'm heading that way anyway...sorry Mark, I have an appointment with a recording studio on Dec 18th to make a couple of DVDs for Simonis....they've been long overdue now for about 4-5 years...but the time is at hand to get them done so Simonis can have some official instructions on how to install their cloth world wide. After the recording is done....I'm heading STRAIGHT to the Pacific Northwest....there's nothing I'd love to do than get there earlier if I could because this might just be the first Christmas I get to spend at home in the last 9 years I think:embarrassed2:

Glen- I thought you did the video on Nov 8th or something like that or was that rescheduled?

 

[HOSS22]

There was no way I could have bought a Diamond table, new or used. I stold my GC 2. Total cost for my GC 2 with new Diamond rubber, Simonis 860 HR cloth, Having RKC Diamondize it, deliver and set it up. Right around $1,800. So you tell me... I think a new Pro-Am goes for around 4-4.5 grand. Correct me if I'm wrong.

right on bro,was just asking...lots of value for the money!

 

[Tony_in_MD]

Hey Glen,

Is Maryland before or after Maine?

OK, I've been off line for a while now, rebuilding a Diamond 7ft Professional, doing some service calls...all in the Chicago area, but I'm sitting at the back dock of the Diamond factory now. I get a little break between now and Monday to get some laundry done and clean & organize my truck again before I head out. Just got told today by Diamond that I have to deliver tables up to Maine this coming Wed/Thur...because I'm heading that way anyway...sorry Mark, I have an appointment with a recording studio on Dec 18th to make a couple of DVDs for Simonis....they've been long overdue now for about 4-5 years...but the time is at hand to get them done so Simonis can have some official instructions on how to install their cloth world wide. After the recording is done....I'm heading STRAIGHT to the Pacific Northwest....there's nothing I'd love to do than get there earlier if I could because this might just be the first Christmas I get to spend at home in the last 9 years I think:embarrassed2:

One way or another I'll get to your table buddy...I'm going as fast as I can. In my wait to leave for Maine, I'm going to be finishing up Diamonds 9ft 3C table this week as well so it's ready to get to market starting right after new years.

Glen

WKPR...I'll try and take care of your table on my way out since I have to pass right by you on the way to Maine. I'll PM you so you know for sure.

 

[fd_colorado]

Thanks Glen -

The 3 month delivery delay is frustrating for a new table purchase from Diamond. I understand I am just a consumer with one table purchase...and that Diamond is probably inserting lots of other orders in front of mine as a result.

I am seriously considering moving to a Gold Crown V...How bad can the table be -- it is much more aesthetically pleasing....The local Brunswick dealer told me he could deliver and setup a newly ordered Gold Crown V in less than 2 weeks.

Something I never considered when I was looking at Diamond Pro-Am's was the potential time it would require for delivery of a new table..from the factory...I had NO IDEA it could potentially take more than 1/4th of a year from deposit to delivery and setup. Is this type of lead time normal??? -- If so, I completely missed that about Diamond. I think this is a serious consideration all prospective Diamond buyers should be aware of. I'm told that the single-piece slate on the 9' Pro-Am unit makes it impossible for Diamond to ship by freight -- and that it takes someone with the skill, ingenuity for setup/install in my home, and knowledge of Glen (and there is no one else in the world, of course). I have no doubt that Glen is the best...and a Pro-Am is the best...but I might keel over before I see a Diamond table

It is not a Diamond vs. GC thing. It's more like would you take your Mercedes to Maaco for paint and body?

Here was my story...

http://home.comcast.net/~fd_colorado/gc4/gold_crown_4_story.html

well worth any wait, IMHO

 

[realkingcobra]

Thanks Glen -

The 3 month delivery delay is frustrating for a new table purchase from Diamond. I understand I am just a consumer with one table purchase...and that Diamond is probably inserting lots of other orders in front of mine as a result.

I am seriously considering moving to a Gold Crown V...How bad can the table be -- it is much more aesthetically pleasing....The local Brunswick dealer told me he could deliver and setup a newly ordered Gold Crown V in less than 2 weeks.

Something I never considered when I was looking at Diamond Pro-Am's was the potential time it would require for delivery of a new table..from the factory...I had NO IDEA it could potentially take more than 1/4th of a year from deposit to delivery and setup. Is this type of lead time normal??? -- If so, I completely missed that about Diamond. I think this is a serious consideration all prospective Diamond buyers should be aware of. I'm told that the single-piece slate on the 9' Pro-Am unit makes it impossible for Diamond to ship by freight -- and that it takes someone with the skill, ingenuity for setup/install in my home, and knowledge of Glen (and there is no one else in the world, of course). I have no doubt that Glen is the best...and a Pro-Am is the best...but I might keel over before I see a Diamond table

Mark...how long did you wait to pull the trigger on buying a Diamond...after you found out from talking to me that Diamond would be changing their rails as to how they played?....9-10 months? When you decided to go forward and buy your table I told you that delivery would be probably sometime in Nov...but that was a best guess. Washington/Oregon is the far reaches of the world when it comes to Diamond delivering tables as they don't have trucks heading up in that direction often...mostly just me when I can.

If you'd like, I can check with Diamond about having your table crated and shipped by common carrier, but when it arrives you'll have to have a forklift to get the crated table off the truck as the drivers don't unload...then you'll have to figure out how to get a 1,230lb pool table out of the crate...and into your house...up across the lawn, up the stairs, across the back deck...and into the house...set up and ready to play on...without a Diamond dolly...as that's the restriction the trucking companies have put on Diamond...NO shipping tables on wheels!

I could ask Diamond to replace the one piece slate with a 3 piece if you'd like, but you'll loose the Diamond wedge leveling system because that's the one drawback to the 3 piece slate on a ProAm style table...not that it can't set up to be perfectly level...depending on who's doing the work in your area

Yes, the studio dates were changed, I have no control over the dates...the only control I have...is what I put into the DVDs at the time they're being recorded...that's why I have a partner...because Jay tells me when and where...so, I have a lot of years invested in that project....and it over-rides everything else I have to do...until it's done.

If you'd like, I'll give you fatboys phone number, he has 2 GC5's I think he's offering to sell for $3,500 each, used once in a womans pro event in Florida...the reason he's selling them...is because his Diamond 9ft ProAm plays so much better...to the point that he'd sell all his other tables before he ever let that table go...not since I calibrated the rails on it and tightened the pockets to 4 1/8" for playing one pocket

John...owner of Pool Sharks I think would sell his GC5's as well if he could get enough money out of them to trade the sale for Diamond ProAm replacement tables...I can ask him if you'd like he might be willing to let one of them go for $3,500 as well.

I'd at least use the information I gave you about the GC5 pricing to get a better deal from your local Brunswick dealer...instead of paying full retail for one...matter of fact, there was a pool room in Hermistead, OR that bought 12 GC5's from a tournament for $2,395 each...if business there is slow...they may be looking to sell some of them....so that might be a good chance to get a GC5 for real cheap...because, unlike a Diamond ProAm....resale value of the GC5's isn't all that great

Let me know what you'd like to do Mark...as I can only do what is at hand to get done....and yes, sometimes some customers have to wait a little longer than others....that's just the nature of the beast so to speak...sorry:embarrassed2:

Glen

 

[mdavis]

(sorry to hijack the thread)

Hey Glen-

I thought you initially said you were coming out here in late September I think November was the 2nd or 3rd delay I know I rushed payment to Aaron in mid Sept. because I thought I might miss you...

Yeah, I did wait for a long time for the rail angle change. Summer waiting is a lot easier than winter waiting..when I would use the table more...It's just frustrating to wait 3+ months after deposit (after waiting 9-12 months for the rail angle change) and THEN to get passed up by other more recent orders....I'm sure you understand...It's a Diamond distribution problem more than a RKC problem. Brunswick has a dealer 2 miles from my house Diamond's dealer is on the other side of the Country and requires the one-and-only RKC for setup/delivery.

Thanks for all the offers on GC V. I'm way too picky and anal to buy used though.

You make valid point about the trade-offs, here was my thinking when I decided to go with a Diamond Pro-Am -- I'm sure you could elaborate in much more detail on all of these points:

Pro-Am
+ best built table on the planet....perhaps there is stuff in Europe or perhaps a Gabriel would come close...I don't know?
+ with the rail angle change, perhaps it equals the play of the Gold Crown V...how would it best the play? ...let's assume the pockets on the GCV are actually to spec
+ single piece slate w/wedge and under the rails!
+ best bumpers
+ resale
- looks terrible -- you pay a price for Dymondwood...the pocket corners..ugh..the black on the side...Oh well...I went with black because I think it hides the ugliness better than Rosewood ....you could move to a professional, which looks a tad better, but then you lose the best things about Diamond (Pro-Am Build, wedge, 1-piece slate, etc)...At that point, GC V starts to look much more interesting.
- black marks on balls -- can't believe they haven't fixed this yet as they have for the Professionals?
(ADDED) - 3+ months to get one, 4? 5?
= 860HR on both


Brunswick Gold Crown V
+ looks great for a home table
+ (arguably) best play - prior to rail angle change with Diamond
- pocket variation of 1/8" seems to be common -- this is just ridiculous for a table of this caliber...I can't believe someone hasn't talked to them about this...this is just unacceptable...you have to get RKC to your house to fix the NEW table...That is messed up.
- pockets at 142 degrees and 143 degrees are also common
= OK build...certainly a lot better than most Brunswick tables, but not as good as a Pro-Am
- 3-piece slate
- worse leveling system
- will not age as well
- poor resale value
- price...although, heavy discounts are common and it actually isn't nearly as bad as it may seem after those discounts...i certainly wasn't going to pay anywhere near full price.....20-30% off was real easy to get...


I really want the Pro-Am...but a GC V is better than no table at all! Tell Diamond that they are really hosing their customers when they make them wait for 3+ months for a new table...

I should probably start a new thread on my learnings about GC V vs. Pro-Am...I'm sure all the info is in the archives...EXCEPT the timeline and distribution problems at Diamond.

 

[realkingcobra]

(sorry to hijack the thread)

Hey Glen-

I thought you initially said you were coming out here in late September I think November was the 2nd or 3rd delay I know I rushed payment to Aaron in mid Sept. because I thought I might miss you...

You wasn't going to miss me Mark believe me...I babysat your table all the way through the process of the waiting for the changes to take place in the rail design just like I told you. I told you when they went through, and to get a hold of Diamond and place your order....what if the change took a lot longer to take place...would you still be waiting?

Yeah, I did wait for a long time for the rail angle change. Summer waiting is a lot easier than winter waiting..when I would use the table more...It's just frustrating to wait 3+ months after deposit (after waiting 9-12 months for the rail angle change) and THEN to get passed up by other more recent orders....I'm sure you understand...It's a Diamond distribution problem more than a RKC problem. Brunswick has a dealer 2 miles from my house Diamond's dealer is on the other side of the Country and requires the one-and-only RKC for setup/delivery.

I'll tell you this...no one, not any other table manufacture out here is going to produce a 9ft one piece slate pool table....but that does come with some drawbacks....and the handling of the table is one of them drawbacks. IF Brunswick ever did offer a one piece slate 9ft GC5....I guarantee you...no Brunswick distributorship would even think twice about handling it....at the customers request, so with that being said....just call ANY retail store and ask them yourself....about their willingness to even move a one piece slate...then tell them you have a one piece slate 9ft and see what kind of response you get...I know there is some concern about having a one piece 9ft slate....but the reward far outweighs the drawbacks....such as never having to worry about the seams ever coming apart, the fact that the slate can be leveled without ever having to take the table apart...or remove the bed cloth...because of the time and effort that Diamond has put into designing their leveling system....and I think it's worth mentioning that no other table manufacture has even tried to copy Diamonds idea....I wonder why....when they lay the claims as to how great their tables are?

Thanks for all the offers on GC V. I'm way too picky and anal to buy used though.

You make valid point about the trade-offs, here was my thinking when I decided to go with a Diamond Pro-Am -- I'm sure you could elaborate in much more detail on all of these points:

If you were closer to the factory, you'd have had your table already by now.

Pro-Am
+ best built table on the planet....perhaps there is stuff in Europe or perhaps a Gabriel would come close...I don't know?
+ with the rail angle change, perhaps it equals the play of the Gold Crown V...how would it best the play? ...let's assume the pockets on the GCV are actually to spec
+ single piece slate w/wedge and under the rails!
+ best bumpers
+ resale
- looks terrible -- you pay a price for Dymondwood...the pocket corners..ugh..the black on the side...Oh well...I went with black because I think it hides the ugliness better than Rosewood ....you could move to a professional, which looks a tad better, but then you lose the best things about Diamond (Pro-Am Build, wedge, 1-piece slate, etc)...At that point, GC V starts to look much more interesting.
- black marks on balls -- can't believe they haven't fixed this yet as they have for the Professionals?
(ADDED) - 3+ months to get one, 4? 5?
= 860HR on both


Brunswick Gold Crown V
+ looks great for a home table
+ (arguably) best play - prior to rail angle change with Diamond
- pocket variation of 1/8" seems to be common -- this is just ridiculous for a table of this caliber...I can't believe someone hasn't talked to them about this...this is just unacceptable...you have to get RKC to your house to fix the NEW table...That is messed up.
- pockets at 142 degrees and 143 degrees are also common
= OK build...certainly a lot better than most Brunswick tables, but not as good as a Pro-Am
- 3-piece slate
- worse leveling system
- will not age as well
- poor resale value
- price...although, heavy discounts are common and it actually isn't nearly as bad as it may seem after those discounts...i certainly wasn't going to pay anywhere near full price.....20-30% off was real easy to get...


I really want the Pro-Am...but a GC V is better than no table at all! Tell Diamond that they are really hosing their customers when they make them wait for 3+ months for a new table...

I should probably start a new thread on my learnings about GC V vs. Pro-Am...I'm sure all the info is in the archives...EXCEPT the timeline and distribution problems at Diamond.

Diamond bends over back-wards to give support to all their customers, and that means even those that are just thinking about buying a Diamond...that I guarantee you.

Yes, Diamond has some problems with distribution. One of them being the lack of distributorship's like other table manufactures have. In the defense of Diamonds lack of distributorship's, think about this for a second. First of all, Diamond would have to create a "wholesale" price on their pool tables in order for the distributorship's to make any kind of money from the sale of Diamond tables, and as it is, Greg has priced the tables much lower in price than they should be selling for....believe that! When Diamond increases the cost of their tables to make this change or that change....they still don't change the price of the tables....that's why Diamond don't have distributorships....because wholesale and retail is just about the same price.....so even IF Diamond had distributors and had that exact same "ProAm" you ordered in stock sitting waiting on that "one" buyer to come along....you could add at least another $3,500 on top of the price you were quoted directly from Diamond...plus delivery and set up on top of that.

Now, imagine how upset the distributorship would be if you went around them....and called Diamond directly to place your order and Diamond sold you the table at their factory pricing....undercutting the distributorship's price? Imagine how you'd feel....if that call around the distributorship to Diamond for a better pricing on the table......was directed to call the local distributorship....and buy your table through them...at THEIR pricing?

Gabriel's are not on my favorite tables list because of all the MDF used in the design, as well as the rails being 1 5/8"ths thick, and their plastic pocket liners........I think the table is cheaply built...and over priced for what you're actually paying for....MDF. There's a lot more I don't care for in the Gabriel's tables as well, but I'm not going into that right now.

I have nothing against Brunswick's GC5 personally, I think it's a good looking table, and would take first place on a beauty contest with Diamond's ProAm no doubt but,...I don't judge a table by it's looks, I look at how it's built, because that's what determines how it's going to play.

I strongly feel that if Diamond would have made this change in their rails 10 years ago, Brunswick wouldn't even have built their GC5, but that's neither here nor there as we can't go back in time to find out if I was right.

So, onward and upward. I know Brunswick is doing what they do...building tables....but think about this for a second, if Brunswick's GC5 was so perfectly built....then I wouldn't be able to take a brand new GC5...and make it play better than the factory built it....yet, I can, because it's all about the alignment of the cushions and the rails, and Brunswick is NOT hitting the mark, and haven't been since I don't know when....because when you do the kind of work that I do....you see every little flaw in the rails, from wrong thickness sub-rails, to inconsistent pocket miters, down angles, stripped out rail bolt nuts...even on brand new GC5's.

Diamond don't have the pockets perfected yet to completely stop the black dye from coming off on the balls, but they're working on it all the time......but that's one of the problems....it takes time to make changes, they're not an overnight thing that takes place....and when you come into work the next day....BAMM...they're done for you.

Mark, I checked with Ford about buying a new F650 box truck for my next project of selling and delivering Diamond's new line of 9ft ProAm billiards tables as the truck I have now won't do to much to help in taking some of the load off Diamond's back delivering an additional 200-300 more tables a year....and got the surprise of my life. Having the truck custom built with the motor I want, suspension system, length of the frame rails, duel fuel tanks, 320amp alt....the whole works.....because NO Ford distributorship's have on hand what I want.....I was told that after putting a 50% down payment on the truck....($80,000.00 full price)...without the box on it....it would be about 22-24 weeks before I'd get the truck delivered....and then take it to have the custom built 30' box mounted on it.

Glen

 

[Hungarian]

That's sac-religious

I'm going to Predatorize my Szamboti.

 

[Hungarian]

Man, how much time did you guys put into writing these posts?

Why not just pick up the phone rather than airing it here?...

Diamond bends over back-wards to give support to all their customers, and that means even those that are just thinking about buying a Diamond...that I guarantee you.

Yes, Diamond has some problems with distribution. One of them being the lack of distributorship's like other table manufactures have. In the defense of Diamonds lack of distributorship's, think about this for a second. First of all, Diamond would have to create a "wholesale" price on their pool tables in order for the distributorship's to make any kind of money from the sale of Diamond tables, and as it is, Greg has priced the tables much lower in price than they should be selling for....believe that! When Diamond increases the cost of their tables to make this change or that change....they still don't change the price of the tables....that's why Diamond don't have distributorships....because wholesale and retail is just about the same price.....so even IF Diamond had distributors and had that exact same "ProAm" you ordered in stock sitting waiting on that "one" buyer to come along....you could add at least another $3,500 on top of the price you were quoted directly from Diamond...plus delivery and set up on top of that.

Now, imagine how upset the distributorship would be if you went around them....and called Diamond directly to place your order and Diamond sold you the table at their factory pricing....undercutting the distributorship's price? Imagine how you'd feel....if that call around the distributorship to Diamond for a better pricing on the table......was directed to call the local distributorship....and buy your table through them...at THEIR pricing?

Gabriel's are not on my favorite tables list because of all the MDF used in the design, as well as the rails being 1 5/8"ths thick, and their plastic pocket liners........I think the table is cheaply built...and over priced for what you're actually paying for....MDF. There's a lot more I don't care for in the Gabriel's tables as well, but I'm not going into that right now.

I have nothing against Brunswick's GC5 personally, I think it's a good looking table, and would take first place on a beauty contest with Diamond's ProAm no doubt but,...I don't judge a table by it's looks, I look at how it's built, because that's what determines how it's going to play.

I strongly feel that if Diamond would have made this change in their rails 10 years ago, Brunswick wouldn't even have built their GC5, but that's neither here nor there as we can't go back in time to find out if I was right.

So, onward and upward. I know Brunswick is doing what they do...building tables....but think about this for a second, if Brunswick's GC5 was so perfectly built....then I wouldn't be able to take a brand new GC5...and make it play better than the factory built it....yet, I can, because it's all about the alignment of the cushions and the rails, and Brunswick is NOT hitting the mark, and haven't been since I don't know when....because when you do the kind of work that I do....you see every little flaw in the rails, from wrong thickness sub-rails, to inconsistent pocket miters, down angles, stripped out rail bolt nuts...even on brand new GC5's.

Diamond don't have the pockets perfected yet to completely stop the black dye from coming off on the balls, but they're working on it all the time......but that's one of the problems....it takes time to make changes, they're not an overnight thing that takes place....and when you come into work the next day....BAMM...they're done for you.

Mark, I checked with Ford about buying a new F650 box truck for my next project of selling and delivering Diamond's new line of 9ft ProAm billiards tables as the truck I have now won't do to much to help in taking some of the load off Diamond's back delivering an additional 200-300 more tables a year....and got the surprise of my life. Having the truck custom built with the motor I want, suspension system, length of the frame rails, duel fuel tanks, 320amp alt....the whole works.....because NO Ford distributorship's have on hand what I want.....I was told that after putting a 50% down payment on the truck....($80,000.00 full price)...without the box on it....it would be about 22-24 weeks before I'd get the truck delivered....and then take it to have the custom built 30' box mounted on it.

Glen

 

[realkingcobra]

Man, how much time did you guys put into writing these posts?

Why not just pick up the phone rather than airing it here?...

I shortened it so you could read it Mark and I don't have a problem...we're not arguing or anything....just talking, that's it

Glen

 

[Hungarian]

Sorry, It's none of my business so I shouldn't have said anything.

I have respect for your table talents Mr. Cobra!!

I shortened it so you could read it Mark and I don't have a problem...we're not arguing or anything....just talking, that's it

Glen