robin dreyer the best instructor in the USA

Robin has helped my game in more ways then i can list. I too have had lessons all around this country and have learned a great deal from all of them. Thanks for all the help, i have taken bits and pieces from each.....However, i think i have learned the most from Robin.
 
PoppaSaun said:
Robin wasn't trying to slap his name on a finished masterpiece. One of his students made an idiotic claim. Don't hold that against Mr. Dreyer.
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So SVB is a "finished masterpiece' and can't be improved. Not very many have ever achieved that level. Wonder if he was even in the money in the 8 ball 7' table using Magic Rack tournament held in March at Lincoln City, Or? I remember it that he was out early. Dry break after dry break but guess that's "perfection" and I just didn't recognize it.
 
denwhit said:
So SVB is a "finished masterpiece' and can't be improved. Not very many have ever achieved that level. Wonder if he was even in the money in the 8 ball 7' table using Magic Rack tournament held in March at Lincoln City, Or? I remember it that he was out early. Dry break after dry break but guess that's "perfection" and I just didn't recognize it.
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You seem to think that a ball should drop on every break in an 8 ball break. News flash - they don't. You took a look at one event, and now think you have discovered some glaring technical error in Shane's break? How do you know if he isn't fighting a shoulder injury? Or just had an off day at the office?

To come on here and say you can correct one of the best breakers the game has ever seen - thanks for the entertainment.
 
denwhit said:
So SVB is a "finished masterpiece' and can't be improved. Not very many have ever achieved that level. Wonder if he was even in the money in the 8 ball 7' table using Magic Rack tournament held in March at Lincoln City, Or? I remember it that he was out early. Dry break after dry break but guess that's "perfection" and I just didn't recognize it.
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Dude, seriously.

First, 'masterpiece' doesn't mean 'perfection'.

Even the greatest have off days.

You aren't helping yourself and you are probably starting to hurt your beloved instructor.
 
Shawn Armstrong said:
You seem to think that a ball should drop on every break in an 8 ball break. News flash - they don't. You took a look at one event, and now think you have discovered some glaring technical error in Shane's break? How do you know if he isn't fighting a shoulder injury? Or just had an off day at the office?

To come on here and say you can correct one of the best breakers the game has ever seen - thanks for the entertainment.
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I never said I could fix him but that I knew someone that might could help SVB's breaking technique. THAT statement has caused an uproar on AZB. Hitting the stack like a ton of bricks is not the only thing about breaking according to someone that knows (not me). I think he could help SVB with his breaking technique but that is totally just my opinion and you guys that have SVB up like some kind of God that has achieved absolute perfection and can not be improved on can blast away.
 
denwhit said:
So SVB is a "finished masterpiece' and can't be improved. Not very many have ever achieved that level. Wonder if he was even in the money in the 8 ball 7' table using Magic Rack tournament held in March at Lincoln City, Or? I remember it that he was out early. Dry break after dry break but guess that's "perfection" and I just didn't recognize it.
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He does OK with his 8 ball game. I am pretty sure this list is not all of the 8 ball major events he has won, and for sure not close to those he finished high in. On any table he is a monster in any game, and 8 ball on a 7 footer he is especially tough in, I think that is one of his strongest games.

2016 U.S. Open 8-Ball Championship
2016 US Bar Table Championship - 8 Ball Division
2013 US Open 8-Ball
three-time VNEA national amateur eight-ball champion
 
cbi1000 said:
Robin has helped my game in more ways then i can list. I too have had lessons all around this country and have learned a great deal from all of them. Thanks for all the help, i have taken bits and pieces from each.....However, i think i have learned the most from Robin.
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As an instructor, what do you find to be his particular strong points?
 
hang-the-9 said:
He does OK with his 8 ball game. I am pretty sure this list is not all of the 8 ball major events he has won, and for sure not close to those he finished high in. On any table he is a monster in any game, and 8 ball on a 7 footer he is especially tough in, I think that is one of his strongest games.

2016 U.S. Open 8-Ball Championship
2016 US Bar Table Championship - 8 Ball Division
2013 US Open 8-Ball
three-time VNEA national amateur eight-ball champion
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SVB is great, maybe the best ever, but that doesn't mean he can't get even better. Jack NIcklaus, at the very top of his game in the late 70's decided his swing was too upright and went to work to flatten it out a bit. Golf Digest did a big write up about it with before and after pictures. Here we have the very best getting even better. He went on to win a few more Master's tournaments. I believe SVB can become even better.
 
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denwhit said:
SVB is great, maybe the best ever, but that doesn't mean he can't get even better. Jack NIcklaus, at the very top of his game in the late 70's decided his swing was too upright and went to work to flatten it out a bit. Golf Digest did a big write up about it with before and after pictures. Here we have the very best getting even better. He went on to win a few more Master's tournaments. I believe SVB can become even better.
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Right. Jack wanted to make a change. It wasn't some blowhard with his wannabe "coach to the pros" that said "hey, Jack....we could really help you with your swing" from the sidelines of the event. I'm sure Shane knows what parts of his game needs work. And he probably has access to pretty much any coach he'd like. If your man was on his radar screen, he'd have contacted him by now.

Just a thought.
 
hang-the-9 said:
I think it has to do with luck as much as anything. Not luck in actual playing but luck in how you learn, from who you learn and being able to find a perfect mesh of eyes, hand, stance, right shaft, right cue, right table, right teacher to be able to line things up properly to get to the highest level. At the beginning I mean, it's like being on a track from the start, till you hit your peak instead of getting into a half broken car trying to drive though Boston roads.

We always wonder if the best at anything are really the best ANYONE can be at it. What if there is some kid who just never shot a basketball but has inside the potential to beat Jordan and LeBron at the game if he started to play? Need some luck to go along with dedication and mental toughness to be a top at anything I think.
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Yep, luck, genetics, internal fortitude, whatever you want to call it. Once you get so good at pool, there is a lot more to worry about. Yeah, great shooters every where, but can they outsmart the other guy, adapt in the middle of a set, have the ability to know when his game is not "on" and play a safety he normally would never play, have the mental awareness to recognize a shot that he saw or used 18 months ago, and pull it off again? Pick the right pattern, most of the time, etc etc.

Thus, why I laugh when folks think if they just practice they could be a champion too, but they just don't have the time. I've heard that many times, and the always famous line, "crap, he plays 4 or 5 hours a day, he should be good" :grin-square: As if they played 4 hours a day the would suddenly beat "him" ? :grin-square:
 
denwhit said:
I never said I could fix him but that I knew someone that might could help SVB's breaking technique. THAT statement has caused an uproar on AZB. Hitting the stack like a ton of bricks is not the only thing about breaking according to someone that knows (not me). I think he could help SVB with his breaking technique but that is totally just my opinion and you guys that have SVB up like some kind of God that has achieved absolute perfection and can not be improved on can blast away.
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There are a few things I don't think you are aware of. SVB was the best breaker in the world. Now, because of him, several others worked on their breaks too and are in contention with him for best break.

Shane became the best breaker by practicing the break. Up to ten hours a day doing nothing but breaking and observing and paying attention to every little detail. Details of how he stroked, and details of how the balls were touching each other and how they spread. Believe me when I tell you that there isn't a man alive that knows more about the break than Shane does. He has spent countless hours studying it and himself.

And, so you know, none of that is taking anything away from Robin. He's good. We get that. But I guarantee you that he doesn't know the break like Shane does.
 
Neil said:
There are a few things I don't think you are aware of. SVB was the best breaker in the world. Now, because of him, several others worked on their breaks too and are in contention with him for best break.

Shane became the best breaker by practicing the break. Up to ten hours a day doing nothing but breaking and observing and paying attention to every little detail. Details of how he stroked, and details of how the balls were touching each other and how they spread. Believe me when I tell you that there isn't a man alive that knows more about the break than Shane does. He has spent countless hours studying it and himself.

And, so you know, none of that is taking anything away from Robin. He's good. We get that. But I guarantee you that he doesn't know the break like Shane does.
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You all know his game better than I do and if you're saying SVB is breaking just as well as he did 2 years ago then Yes, it was stupid of me to make such a suggestion. Okay, let that be the last word on the subject.
 
guys and denwhit
please discuss shane and his break in the thread that DENWHIT STARTED
i posted my experience with robin
lets try to keep on topic
thanks to all
 
Bob Jewett said:
As an instructor, what do you find to be his particular strong points?
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thanks for a great question Bob
he knows the material he teaches inside out
has a keen eye and ability to relate to the student
his approach to teaching position play and kicking is very accurate once you have mastered the skills to execute it
 
Robin Dreyer is certainly one of the best pool teachers in the USA. He teaches all games and his breaking theories and demonstrations alone are worth the price. Since we've brought his name to the forefront, I've had many PM's from people that have taken lessons from Robin and so far, no one had anything negative to say.... all positive. Here is his website: WWW.robindreyer.com
 
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