Rodney- what happened?

JB Cases said:
No one is questioning the promoter's or tournament director's right to make rules. It's HOW they go about it that doesn't seem to be too cool.

John, you're taking it a bit overboard as far as that sign is concerned. It seems as if this rule went into place after the fact. Was the TD supposed to call a printing company and have a professional sign printed up right there on the spot? He did the best he could with what he had. As for the spelling error, well, what can you do? The average player spent his youth shooting pool and not wasting a lot of time on education. Granted, there are a lot of intelligent people that play pool, but there are some real stumps too, a lot of stumps.
MULLY
 
I don't think anyone is questioning the RULES are RULES, it's how it was presented. The rule of no children under 6 should have been in prior too paying the entry fee, and if I decided not too participate or leave my family at home, then it's my decision. Too change the rules in the middle of a tournament is not a good decision. I would rather have a 4 year old sitting in his mothers lap and not saying a word than two 30 year olds loudly calculating every shot the players make.
 
As most of you probably know if you are a parent, its not always easy to tell if a kid is 6, 7 or 8. There are some tall 5yr olds out there. I was wondering do they have security carding the kids?
"ok son when you walk up if the man asks you how old you are just say 7 ok" "Oh and you make one noise and you are grounded for a year" Thats how you handle this.
 
mullyman said:
Ignorance of the law is no excuse. I'm not against Rodney, I've met the guy and I really like him. He's a good person. But in a situation like this I gotta go with the TD. Rules are rules and you are responsible for finding out what those rules are.
MULLY
Umm...rule was created after the start of the event. Not ignorance.
 
mullyman said:
Ignorance of the law is no excuse. I'm not against Rodney, I've met the guy and I really like him. He's a good person. But in a situation like this I gotta go with the TD. Rules are rules and you are responsible for finding out what those rules are.
MULLY

Apparently the law was created during Rodney's match. So it isn't as if he was warned or had a chance to address it beforehand. In this case ignorance of the law is an acceptable excuse.

I have been to the Open many times. If fidgeting, giggling, and other such mannerisms are enough to get kids thrown out then I have to say that the stands should be emptied based on the things I have seen there. People are constantly moving, talking loudly, eating, cheering, clapping, waving, taking pictures, heckling, talking to players, getting autographs, and all sorts of other things that could be distracting to a player.

There are 16 matches going on and everyone is paying attention to different ones. They are all wrapped up in what they are doing with little regard to how it affects others on the edge of that sphere.

You gotta be there and then you will see exactly what I mean. And in all the times I was ever there I can't recall a single time that kids were ever a problem. In fact I can barely recall seeing any. I did see a lot of childish behavior though in the stands and in the playing arena.
 
what Fats said

JB Cases said:
Apparently the law was created during Rodney's match. So it isn't as if he was warned or had a chance to address it beforehand. In this case ignorance of the law is an acceptable excuse.

I have been to the Open many times. If fidgeting, giggling, and other such mannerisms are enough to get kids thrown out then I have to say that the stands should be emptied based on the things I have seen there. People are constantly moving, talking loudly, eating, cheering, clapping, waving, taking pictures, heckling, talking to players, getting autographs, and all sorts of other things that could be distracting to a player.

There are 16 matches going on and everyone is paying attention to different ones. They are all wrapped up in what they are doing with little regard to how it affects others on the edge of that sphere.

You gotta be there and then you will see exactly what I mean. And in all the times I was ever there I can't recall a single time that kids were ever a problem. In fact I can barely recall seeing any. I did see a lot of childish behavior though in the stands and in the playing arena.

I remember what Fats said once about his opponent complaining about him moving around while he was shooting......"maybe you should go play in a wax museum....."
 
mullyman said:
John, you're taking it a bit overboard as far as that sign is concerned. It seems as if this rule went into place after the fact. Was the TD supposed to call a printing company and have a professional sign printed up right there on the spot? He did the best he could with what he had. As for the spelling error, well, what can you do? The average player spent his youth shooting pool and not wasting a lot of time on education. Granted, there are a lot of intelligent people that play pool, but there are some real stumps too, a lot of stumps.
MULLY

No Mully, they were supposed to go in the office where they have several computers and printers. I have been there. In the office they should have thought about what they wanted to say and how to say it tactfully, and then printed it out and the posted it neatly.

No, the tournament direction did not do the best they could with what they had. Even if all they had were markers and paper they still could have done a better job on that sign.

Sorry, but I carried a printer with me to almost all events. I have made plenty of signage for myself and my fellow vendors. I consider signage to be a very important part of doing business. To me handwriting a sign this badly is just plain disrespectful and unprofessional. The rule may or may not be warranted, it may or may not be a personal affront to Rodney, that I don't know.

I know if I were Rodney and I saw that piece of crap sign it would make me feel like it was pointed at me rather than something that was meant to apply to everyone. Especially if it went up in the middle of my match.

It's pretty lousy to put up a sign forbidding children that is spelled wrong with handwriting that's not even up to first grade standards.

Hell I think that this sign has a good shot at getting on the Tonight Show for it's obvious irony.
 
ban everyone

Did Earl "the Pearl" and the combination of him losing and his temper have anything to do with the rule? That's too bad that a player pays for his family to watch him play, which I'm sure means alot to him and then a rule gats made up mid-tourney that prevents them from doing so. So if a drunk causes a stir, are we to ban people drinking? Or maybe a redhead. Ban them. How bout people with bright shirts or funny glasses. I seem to miss more shots when particulary large chested women are near the table. my vote is to ban well-done breast augmentations. I think the td was wrong, unless the kids were behaving horribly. Even so, then they should have been banned, not all kids.
 
I agree w/ you: Everybody out!!!
cbaumann212 said:
Did Earl "the Pearl" and the combination of him losing and his temper have anything to do with the rule? That's too bad that a player pays for his family to watch him play, which I'm sure means alot to him and then a rule gats made up mid-tourney that prevents them from doing so. So if a drunk causes a stir, are we to ban people drinking? Or maybe a redhead. Ban them. How bout people with bright shirts or funny glasses. I seem to miss more shots when particulary large chested women are near the table. my vote is to ban well-done breast augmentations. I think the td was wrong, unless the kids were behaving horribly. Even so, then they should have been banned, not all kids.
 
The us open is not a daycare or a picnic area to host a family reunion.

although that sign is a pretty big slap in the face im not saying what they did was right, that rule is a good one but they should have let it be known before the tournament started.

im guessing that it did bother a player becuase im sure that they didint just say "hey lets piss rodney off, and ban his wife and kids wouldnt that be the best."

they had good intentions in mind.
 
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Papa Red said:
Let's lock all the children in the cellars! I think Rodney's wife has been around tournaments long enough too understand the importance of being quite. I feel that if their children were acting up she would have removed them from the room. Also, this would have placed more stress on Rodney and he could not keep his concentration on the match, knowing this was distracting the other opponents.

I think you're probably right about Rodney's wife, but sadly, there are a lot of clueless parents out there who would not be so courteous. In a room full of people, chances are you're going to have one disruptive child, and that's all it takes.

I don't think it's unreasonable to take such a step to insure the best environment for the players.

Maybe they should build a "cry room" behind glass, like in church. Better yet, just hold the tournament in a church. It's the perfect venue! Plenty of seating and parking, sound system and the kids can all go to the other room for Sunday school errrrrr POOL SCHOOL. :eek:

Oohhh, I seem to have gotten a little off track here...
 
wahcheck said:
I remember what Fats said once about his opponent complaining about him moving around while he was shooting......"maybe you should go play in a wax museum....."

Alright how about a joke.........

What is the difference between a pool player and a baby?
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.........Pool players cry more...:sad: :sad:
 
hangemhigh said:
Like John pointed out and you fail to recognize, it looks like it was penned by a 5 yr. old without the benefit of a spell-checker. Total lack of class in all respects.

What words are spelled incorrectly?????
 
wahcheck said:
I remember what Fats said once about his opponent complaining about him moving around while he was shooting......"maybe you should go play in a wax museum....."
REALLY ! it isn't church. i doubt any of the players complained, they're pros. most everyone in this thead are the ones getting sharked. also maybe the guy runnng the tournament.
 
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After all everyone knows the players themselves are the most inconsiderate, egotistical, and more disruptive after their matches than any spectator 6 or 60. Especially after they loose. Then they sit around watching and critiquing every shot loud enough to disrupt the people and players playing.



"POOL EDICT" is something player lack, not all but most. They all want respect when they are at the table, but seam too forget their opponent would like the same.
 
gopi-1 said:
no-babies.jpg

Aside from the glaring misspelling of babies, there is the whole mixing of capital letters and small letters and even a cursive small e combined in the same word with a capital e at the end.

Maybe the sign is high art. Perhaps ee cummings is a pool fan and has left us an unsigned piece.

Let me reproduce it here minus the atrocious handwriting and see how it looks;

SORRY
NO BABYS
OR ChILDREN
UNDER THE
AGE OF 6
PLeASE
UNDeRSTAND


When I look at it like this it seems as if they are saying that there are no more babies or children under 6 available. Darn, I was really hoping to get me a four year old today.
 
JB Cases said:
Aside from the glaring misspelling of babies, there is the whole mixing of capital letters and small letters and even a cursive small e combined in the same word with a capital e at the end.

Maybe the sign is high art. Perhaps ee cummings is a pool fan and has left us an unsigned piece.

Let me reproduce it here minus the atrocious handwriting and see how it looks;

SORRY
NO BABYS
OR ChILDREN
UNDER THE
AGE OF 6
PLeASE
UNDeRSTAND


When I look at it like this it seems as if they are saying that there are no more babies or children under 6 available. Darn, I was really hoping to get me a four year old today.

Not disagreeing with you JB, the signage should have been done in a more professional manner.

Russ...
 
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