Rotation - Quick Question

Uh... I am guessing... one in the front... 15 in the 8 ball spot.... All other balls are thrown in randomly.... Right?

I am assuming by 'rotation' you mean using 15 balls. Obviously 7-ball, 9-ball, and 10-ball are also classified as rotation games.

'9-ball is rotation pool. The balls are pocketed in numbered order. The only ball that means anything, that wins it, is the nine.' Just a little COM movie quote from memory....
 
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you are right except i believe the 2 and 3 ball also go on opposite back corners. someone correct me if im wrong. im sure someone would lol
 
I was always told to rack it like this:

1
13 14
11 15 12
7 9 10 8
2 4 6 5 3

this or a mirror image is fine.
 
One in front, two and three in back corners, four and five above them, six and seven above them, eight and nine above them, fifteen in center, thirteen and fourteen below fifteen, then ten, twelve, and eleven.
I am not sure if this is standard for rotation or not, but that is the way that everyone plays it here.
 
BillYards said:
2 & 3 in the corners sounds odd.... I will check my sources...
iEs la verdad!

Coz:
1) generally speaking, it is not a rack your own scenario,
2) rotation is a game that accumulated points determine winner

Therefore, the incentive is there to make sure that the balls that move the most are worth the least, ie: the corner balls, 2+3. The 1 is at the head for the same reason it is in 9b.
 
Black-Balled said:
2) rotation is a game that accumulated points determine winner

Therefore, the incentive is there to make sure that the balls that move the most are worth the least, ie: the corner balls, 2+3. The 1 is at the head for the same reason it is in 9b.

You mean sinking the 15-ball doesn't win the game? It's the total of the numbered balls that you sink?
 
I read on other sites that it is one in front, fifteen in the middle and 2 and 3 on the corners with the other balls chucked in wherever they fall.
 
davidhop is correct, with the small exception that other than the 1, 2, 3, 13, 14 & 15, the other balls may be racked at random. Rotation is a points game, where all the balls add up to 120...therefore, the first player to reach 61 points wins the game. You break hard, and some places let you keep shooting, keeping what you make on the break...other places play that you spot what you make on the break, but continue shooting. Combinations are allowed, just like in 9-ball, as long as you legally hit the lowest numbered ball on the table first.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge
 
I posted this on another thread some while back but got no responses...but i'd love to see a video of a professional rotation match. Are there any videos I can buy or any links of mpegs on the web that display a match of 15-ball rotation?
 
NaClBandit said:
How do you rack a game of rotation?

The BCA rulebook says 1 on the foot spot, 2 in the right foot corner, and 3 in the left foot corner. 15-ball in the middle. The rest at random.

I always put the 13-ball and 14-ball behind the 15-ball, but this doesn't make much sense, IMO. I think you want separation between the 13-ball, 14-ball, and 15-ball.

For, scoring, each shot, you must contact the lowest numbered ball on the table before you contact any other ball. You get the face-value of the ball. So, a 15-ball is worth 15 pts. A 7-ball is worth 7 pts. First to score 61 point win. Since there are 120 total points, a tie is possible.

Fred
 
Cornerman said:
The BCA rulebook says 1 on the foot spot, 2 in the right foot corner, and 3 in the left foot corner. 15-ball in the middle. The rest at random.

I always put the 13-ball and 14-ball behind the 15-ball, but this doesn't make much sense, IMO. I think you want separation between the 13-ball, 14-ball, and 15-ball.

For, scoring, each shot, you must contact the lowest numbered ball on the table before you contact any other ball. You get the face-value of the ball. So, a 15-ball is worth 15 pts. A 7-ball is worth 7 pts. First to score 61 point win. Since there are 120 total points, a tie is possible.

Fred

For gambling purposes, we always shoot the current rack all the way off the table. The reason for this is that we play with a foul = 10 point deduction rule. Also, we play like $10 per game, plus .10 per point. If you get several people together, you can have a pretty decent payday out of just a few racks.
 
NaClBandit said:
You mean sinking the 15-ball doesn't win the game? It's the total of the numbered balls that you sink?

Obviously thaere can be endless variations, but the traditional way to win is to collect 61 points, amount of points per ball is determined by th# on the ball.

I always wondered about folks who say they saw someone run _racks of rotation. Is that all 15 balls, or just to 61pts?

Oh- I have also seen it played where the player at the table can shoot either the highest or lowest ball available.
 
Black-Balled...Running a rack of rotation would be all 15 balls. My personal best is 5 racks in a row (75 balls), at Mr. Cues II in Atlanta, about 5 yrs ago, right after they recovered the tables. Just to state, this was throwing the balls out on the table, and taking b-i-h on the 1-ball...not as difficult as racking and breaking the same game, but something I'm proud of nonetheless!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
If you play with fouls counting as minus points it's possible the winning score could be below 61 or 60. I don't like playing that way, it creates confusion as to what score is needed to win (at least in my poor damaged brain).
Fred explains the rack best and is right about separating 13,14,15.

Terry
 
You are right ...

Cornerman said:
The BCA rulebook says 1 on the foot spot, 2 in the right foot corner, and 3 in the left foot corner. 15-ball in the middle. The rest at random.

I always put the 13-ball and 14-ball behind the 15-ball, but this doesn't make much sense, IMO. I think you want separation between the 13-ball, 14-ball, and 15-ball.

For, scoring, each shot, you must contact the lowest numbered ball on the table before you contact any other ball. You get the face-value of the ball. So, a 15-ball is worth 15 pts. A 7-ball is worth 7 pts. First to score 61 point win. Since there are 120 total points, a tie is possible.

Fred

Fred is right, except after the 1-15-2-3, the rest of the balls are random.
In case of a tie, whoever made the 15 ball is the winner. Once a player
surpasses 60 points, the game is OVER. We read left to right, that's why
many people think the 2 and 3 go the other way, but they don't.
 
So like this (dots for spacing). Does the order of the 2 & 3 matter as long as they're in the bottom 2 corners?


...............1
.............X X
............X15X
..........X X X X
.........2 X X X 3
 
racking Rotation

NaClBandit said:
How do you rack a game of rotation?

I learned this way

1
R-R
R-15-R
R-13-14-R
2-R - R -R-3​

R = random
 
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