Rubber wraps

The problem regarding life span of rubber grips is the materials used are only moderately oil resistant. Its a trade off. The more oil resistant the harder and less tackiness. So the very thin/cheap ones can't absorb as much oil (from your hand) and get softer quicker. The surgical tubing mentioned since its cheap is a nice option although Natural Rubber is very low in oil resistance. But very tacky and abrasion resistant. Really tough stuff.

As far as loading the butt in a case its not easy. This is one of the main reasons the butterfly style cases are popular in 3C. My case is a Whitten. He used his shaft liner in the butt tubes rather than the fuzzy stuff.
 
My roll-on rubber grip is about 3 months old and still looks new. $3 on Ebay plus 2 dollars shipping. :thumbup:

However, I'm going to take it off because I'd rather feel the wood than rubber. I had never tried one before so I experimented. Also, the roll-on makes the grip too big, almost like an arthritic golf grip. Just my .02.
 
Mitchxout said:
My roll-on rubber grip is about 3 months old and still looks new. $3 on Ebay plus 2 dollars shipping. :thumbup:

However, I'm going to take it off because I'd rather feel the wood than rubber. I had never tried one before so I experimented. Also, the roll-on makes the grip too big, almost like an arthritic golf grip. Just my .02.
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This is exactly why I designed a rubber grip, durable and the wetter the grippier. It is the same size as the cavity in the wrap handle. Permanently applied, or removable for any other wrap material.
 
gulyassy said:
This is exactly why I designed a rubber grip, durable and the wetter the grippier. It is the same size as the cavity in the wrap handle. Permanently applied, or removable for any other wrap material.
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Will there be a pattern or texture in the rubber? What about an MG logo?
 
I put a rubber wrap on my break cue. It was amazing. I broke may be a little better than ususal, don't know if it was the warap or the fact I was playing in my first tournament in Dallas and wanting to make an impression. I had a problem getting it out of my case and it was not any bigger than it was with my linen wrap. The rubber was sticking to my lining. This is a real problem. It appears that it is not the size but the 2 materials, it is working like velcroe. I really like the feel of the grip and I am thinking that it held on to my hand more as I was following through without gripping it harder. Anyway it was agreat feel. The case problem is not what I expected and I have to work on the wrap size some more. I was under the impression that the thickness of the rubber wrap was consistant but it is not. I hid the seam very nicely,this was easy, looks great but the size varies and some wraps were .040. I took my wrap section down to fit the wrap. This made my cavity were it cannot change back to linen but it did have a little squeeze on the rubber that I liked. I guess it is back to the drawing board but like I said it felt great.
 
gulyassy said:
I put a rubber wrap on my break cue. It was amazing. I broke may be a little better than ususal, don't know if it was the warap or the fact I was playing in my first tournament in Dallas and wanting to make an impression. I had a problem getting it out of my case and it was not any bigger than it was with my linen wrap. The rubber was sticking to my lining. This is a real problem. It appears that it is not the size but the 2 materials, it is working like velcroe. I really like the feel of the grip and I am thinking that it held on to my hand more as I was following through without gripping it harder. Anyway it was agreat feel. The case problem is not what I expected and I have to work on the wrap size some more. I was under the impression that the thickness of the rubber wrap was consistant but it is not. I hid the seam very nicely,this was easy, looks great but the size varies and some wraps were .040. I took my wrap section down to fit the wrap. This made my cavity were it cannot change back to linen but it did have a little squeeze on the rubber that I liked. I guess it is back to the drawing board but like I said it felt great.
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Mike:

I wouldn't go back to the drawing board. I'm sure the design you have is great, and I personally would like to try it. (Yes, I would still like to try it, even though I was the one that answered the call for "alternatives" in a previous post -- didn't mean to fork your thread off in a different direction like that.)

It sounds like you are on the right track. I wouldn't let the fact that the rubber material gripping onto the liner of your case sideline you; in fact, that situation alone speaks to the effectiveness of your design.

What you may want to investigate, is something I mentioned earlier, which is a kind of "sock" that one drops the cue's butt into, before dropping the whole shebang into the butt slot in the case. That material they make pool gloves from, seems to work best -- it's slippery and completely nulls the gripping effect of the rubber. You may even want to offer the rubber grip and the sock as a bundle? (Just an idea.)

Anyway, I'm thinking you're on the right track, as mentioned. Would welcome the opportunity to try your design.

-Sean
 
JB Cases said:
Yes. The grippier the wrap the more chance it has to get stuck in a case. Any case with a snug fit is not good for rubber wraps.

We make a sleeve for this purpose. The rubber grips that are on Poision and Fury cues are fine in our cases but carom grips and similar levels of tack tend to get stuck. We have had a customer using an elephant skin wrap get his cue stuck.
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My new Prewitt has an Elephant Ear wrap and i can feel it grabbing the sides when I slide it into my On Q storage case and that case only have felt lined tubes. I imagine the EE wrap and the rubber wrap would need a liner if it were to be used with a tighter case.
 
In regards to the rubber grips , I have a poison break cue which I love the feel of the rubber grip, Feels like I can break better, I do have to use a plastic sleeve to put it in and out of my case though. Otherwise it sticks to the cloth and is a pain to remove.

I just slip it in one of those plastic sleeves that cues come in when you buy a new one, does the job, no more sticking.


H.P.
 
gulyassy said:
I have finally developed my new rubber wrap. It goes on like leather wraps and the more your hand sweats the grip-pier it gets. It will be going on my new "Pearl" line of cues. Earl has always wanted a rubber wrap and I have them now, for sale or I will put them on. They are in stock, call me at 864-430-7797, ask for Mike.
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I am currently using one of Mike's rubber wraps on a new cue he recently made for me. The quality of the wrap and Mike's installation are first class.

I have always tended to loosen my grip as I stroke through the cue ball. This technique/quirk works great when my game is on but is disastrous when it's not, which is most of the time. The rubber grip has a consistently great feel and it helps me hold on to the cue throughout the stroke. I love it!
 
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If anyone wants to see what Mike Gulyassy's rubber wrap installation looks like, Dennis Hatch's break cue can be seen being used in his U.S. Open match against Lee Van Corteza on the streaming table (as of this writing). Tune in -- the workmanship looks great!
 
Just a thought for a possible cheap, quick & easy temporary solution to the rubber grip sticking to the case problem; Roll the rubber grip area in waxed or butcher's paper and secure it with 2 pieces of scotch tape that are tabbed over on one end. The other thought I have about the rubber grips not presenting a problem is to have a box case like the old days or a modified rifle case like what I have been using for over ten years. Hope this is helpful...
 
Bill812 said:
Just a thought for a possible cheap, quick & easy temporary solution to the rubber grip sticking to the case problem
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Any of the older Justis tube style cases or ones with the same design would not be a problem with the grip sticking inside. I bought one of those rubber roll on grips a few years ago and never had a problem with it in any of my cases, and it goes on over teh cue and stickes out.
 
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