Rule against ear plugs

Wearing headphones is unprofessional, and if we're using X-Games as a beacon, god help us all. A bunch of thirteen year old kids kicking around on skateboards is hardly professional competition (other than by the strictest definition of the word).

They can have their fun but I have no interest in it. Pool should be a man's game, and wearing headphones is douchey, immature, and unprofessional. I find it disrespectful to the opponent.

Then again, a lot of things in society that I consider disrespectful and discourteous are becoming the norm; I cite people having their phones three inches from their faces at all times while people are trying to speak with them an example.

I like this post:thumbup: John B.
 
Shouldn't these be separate issues? I suffer from chronic tinnitus and have found relief wearing ear plugs. They're flesh color and unnoticed as well only blocking about 30-40% enabling normal interaction.
 
Ear plugs should only be worn during conversations with the wife...

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Shouldn't these be separate issues? I suffer from chronic tinnitus and have found relief wearing ear plugs. They're flesh color and unnoticed as well only blocking about 30-40% enabling normal interaction.

Reading the context of the OP's post, methinks he meant ear buds, and not "ear plugs." The former are mini speakers that generate sound into your ear canal; the latter are designed to stopper your ear canal to greatly minimize harmful sounds from entering it.

Most good tournament rules (such as CSI's) address the former. Obviously, a medical condition where external sound exacerbates e.g. tinnitus and you need ear plugs to block the exacerbating noise, is something these rules aren't meant to address. I'm sure if you get challenged about this, you can just explain the condition -- no doctor note necessary (but it may be a good idea to have that with you anyway). It's not like ear plugs can be confused with ear buds, because there's no cord with ear plugs. ;)

-Sean
 
My ex-wife left because she said I never listened to her.

I think that's what she said .......................
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Rebuild it to a positive and prestigeous sport.

So to answer the question about head phones and wear whatever you want ........ NO NO NO.... I am not saying tuxedos but atleast have your pants on with a belt and no more freakin hats turned around. if we dress like the ghetto than the sport will live in the ghetto. simple casual dress with gentleman, gentlewoman like manners and enjoy the purity of this beautiful game.

Headphones, ok fine, maybe those look dumb.
But what about earbuds? They're tiny. They're almost unnoticeable.
See if you can spot the difference :p

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If you need headphones to prevent distractions your in the wrong sport. When your in the "zone" you dont notice anything around you and its a great feeling......

So you figure we should just let fans yell while you're shooting too, right? Maybe get some airhorns?
 
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All you guys that wear plugs or phones... Its because your looking for any way to get an advantage. Its a shark tactic.. I am not including those who require plugs for medical issues. Its similar to the cheesy poker players that have to wear sunglasses and hoodys.... If you can't handle the challenge without extra body armor you shouldn't be in it.

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If it's acceptable in a World Championship Snooker match, then I can live with that. We can learn allot by doing what they have found successful with their evolved business model. This game came into being 1/2 a millennium + ago. I find it hard to compare other competitions to what we have. When a person like Willie Mosconi, or Willie Hoppe or Efren Reyes come to mind, I find it difficult to compare them to someone like the Flying Tomato, even tho he is cool.
 
All you guys that wear plugs or phones... Its because your looking for any way to get an advantage. Its a shark tactic.. I am not including those who require plugs for medical issues. Its similar to the cheesy poker players that have to wear sunglasses and hoodys.... If you can't handle the challenge without extra body armor you shouldn't be in it.

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Ear buds, not ear plugs. There's a difference. ;)

-Sean
 
a bit long... sorry

some of the responses are making my point (we are old or at least stuck in our ways)... the X - Games is not just "skate boarding" :grin-square: possibly if someone younger was in the local pool hall to talk too you might know that (see list below).

But that is really not the point. If we (as a pool playing group) would like to see the sport grow and continue then maybe, just maybe we should take a look around and find out what the next generation thinks is fun.

Instead we sit and talk about "them damn kids never listen, don't know how to talk, they play there music to damn loud (if you can call it music!)... really... so the goal is to develop the game as a platform for social change? Good luck with that!...

The 80's ! really ... I remember people interacting over lines on a mirror so that decade might not be the best example....

Football is WAY different than the 70's version... basketball played ABOVE the rim and no longer tape delayed....

Straight Pool is dead and there are more than 3 channels on TV (if you even use it anymore with free streaming / downloads and internet broadcasts)

Balkline gave way to 3 cushion... old world snooker and new world pocket billiards ...

10 ftrs to 8 ftrs and back to 9 ftrs.. slow cloth with a nap, billiard cloth, ivory balls, new synthetics...

US Postal service > e-mail ... the whole world is wired... we can sit here on AZ and say "I don't like it! I shall now retire to my billiard room and practice a little 14.1 before bed. (9 PM rapidly approaches) OR maybe just maybe we can actually ask a 12 / 14/ or 16 year old that likes pool but is not really into it... "Hey, what would make this more fun for YOU!" after all.. I would like to go to events 30 years from now...

Summer X Games[edit]
MotoMotocross speed & style
Motocross best whip
Motocross freestyle
Men's Motocross Endurocross
Women's Motocross Endurocross
Motocross step up
Car racingRallycross
SkateboardingSkateboard vert
Men's Skateboard Park
Women's Skateboard Park
Street League Skateboarding (SLS)
Street League Skateboarding (SLS) Select Series
Women's Skateboard Street
Skateboard Big Air
Skateboard game of SK8
BMXBMX Freestyle vert
BMX Freestyle Park
BMX Freestyle Street
BMX Freestyle Big Air
BMX Freestyle Dirt

Real SeriesReal Surf
Real Women
Real Street
fun time (playing with each other)
Mountain BikeMountain Bike Slopestyle

Winter X Games[edit]
SkiingSki big air
Men's Ski Slopestyle
Women's Ski Slopestyle
Men's Ski Superpipe
Women's Ski Superpipe
SnowboardingSnowboard big air
Men's Snowboard slopestyle
Women's Snowboard Slopestyle
Men's Snowboard superpipe
Women's Snowboard Superpipe
Snowboard street
SnowmobileSnowmobile freestyle
Snowmobile speed & style
Snocross
Snocross Adaptive
Real SeriesReal Snow
Real Snow Backcountry
Real Ski Backcountry
 
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What about people like me who have a medical condition that gangster rap brings on? It makes me play the 6 under my speed and puts me in a very bad mood. I could listen to most any kind of music and play pool except for opera and gangster rap.
I could never play good listening to my mp3 player, so next I'm trying ear plugs. If a tourney is held that doesn't allow buds or plugs and plays non-stop rap, I will no longer play in that place.
I'm not like your average cheap pool player who spends very little "you know who you are" I might spend 200 a night on just drinks, so, that would be like losing the business of 10 players. If owners think I'm the only one who feels this way, they better think again.
Just last week, I know of two people who left a place after telling me they couldn't take it any longer and these are two guys who travel long distances to sweat pool.
I think CJ is right when he said one of the mistakes business owners make is letting some customers dictate the music being played.
 
Mosconi Cup

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Ear buds, not ear plugs. There's a difference. ;)

-Sean

Here's a great idea. Make the entire team wear em and listen to team music ;). I'm sure Luke Riches would be Overjoyed.:bash: Now if we could just get Manny Pacquio to wear em during his boxing match, that would be really cool. :grin-square:
 
I know some people who hate ear buds because their sharking and intimidation techniques won't be as successful for them. A good portion of the time I don't even have the music playing on my ipod but a lot of times people will leave me alone because they think it is going. I usually turn it on when I am practicing or when the cackling gets to normal levels at the room I play at.

People are going to "move" no matter what. People are going to shark and try to intimidate and others are going to pretend they don't hear because of the ear buds but as long as TDs aren't stopping one they shouldn't eliminate the other.
 
I would love to wear earbuds, just for my own concentration. I get distracted by other voices in the room too easily. Yes, that's on me, which is why I'd love to wear them.

I have what I call "managers ears" (probably the poor step-cousin to "mothers ears" , heh heh) in that as a manager in my employment, I'm constantly listening to what all my people are doing/saying even while I'm helping a customer myself. It's a trained response at this point in my life, and I can't shut it off.

(It's also very frustrating that I can do that effortlessly, but when I'm trying to have a one-on-one conversation with someone I still have to ask them to repeat sometimes, due to partial hearing loss as a result of playing drums in my youth...without earplugs. Quite an ironic situation, huh?)

Because of my managers ears, I hear all of the conversations going on around the table while I'm playing, unless the house music is quite loud. Then I will only hear some of them :p

In a room with a lot of people and no music, or the music is at a very low volume, I struggle to keep my concentration. I would love to be able to wear earbuds.

Sadly, my league doesn't allow them. So I don't wear them.
 
I would love to wear earbuds, just for my own concentration. I get distracted by other voices in the room too easily. Yes, that's on me, which is why I'd love to wear them.

I have what I call "managers ears" (probably the poor step-cousin to "mothers ears" , heh heh) in that as a manager in my employment, I'm constantly listening to what all my people are doing/saying even while I'm helping a customer myself. It's a trained response at this point in my life, and I can't shut it off.

(It's also very frustrating that I can do that effortlessly, but when I'm trying to have a one-on-one conversation with someone I still have to ask them to repeat sometimes, due to partial hearing loss as a result of playing drums in my youth...without earplugs. Quite an ironic situation, huh?)

Because of my managers ears, I hear all of the conversations going on around the table while I'm playing, unless the house music is quite loud. Then I will only hear some of them :p

In a room with a lot of people and no music, or the music is at a very low volume, I struggle to keep my concentration. I would love to be able to wear earbuds.

Sadly, my league doesn't allow them. So I don't wear them.

During the Camel Pro Tour all the players asked for was background music to wash out any sudden sounds or chatter during match play, worked fine for all.
 
I suffer from chronic tinnitus and have found relief wearing ear plugs.

???? I can ignore it in the presence of ambient noise. But with ear plugs, I cannot block out the tinnitus.

Good for you. I wish that worked for me.
 
I would love to wear earbuds, just for my own concentration. I get distracted by other voices in the room too easily. Yes, that's on me, which is why I'd love to wear them.

I have what I call "managers ears" (probably the poor step-cousin to "mothers ears" , heh heh) in that as a manager in my employment, I'm constantly listening to what all my people are doing/saying even while I'm helping a customer myself. It's a trained response at this point in my life, and I can't shut it off.

(It's also very frustrating that I can do that effortlessly, but when I'm trying to have a one-on-one conversation with someone I still have to ask them to repeat sometimes, due to partial hearing loss as a result of playing drums in my youth...without earplugs. Quite an ironic situation, huh?)

Because of my managers ears, I hear all of the conversations going on around the table while I'm playing, unless the house music is quite loud. Then I will only hear some of them :p

In a room with a lot of people and no music, or the music is at a very low volume, I struggle to keep my concentration. I would love to be able to wear earbuds.

Sadly, my league doesn't allow them. So I don't wear them.

I had the same problem when I was employed. My inability to completely focus on my game held me back from where I believed I was capable. Only on occasion could I play at my best. I never found music to provide sufficient distraction from background distractions. I was surprised one time when finishing an audiobook on my mp3 player to find that I could follow the story and maintain very high level attention to my pool game. It was the best I had played in quite some time. Unfortunately, as you mentioned, I cannot try the same thing in league play. In view of today's technologies, allowing ear buds would open up players to unlimited coaching (some need it).

After about 6 months of unemployment/retirement and concentrated effort to focus my attention, the problem goes away. Now generally, I can focus on my pool game. I have no more excuses except this is the way I play.
 
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