Rules clarification bowliards, equal offense

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Not Dead Ted

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Would appreciate rules clarification (if , in fact, actual rules exist):

Bowliards:

- Is it BIH after break (kitchen or anywhere), or play it where the CB is?
- Balls made on break spotted or left down?
- BIH anywhere (or kitchen) after first miss or play from where CB is?
- BIH anywhere or kitchen after scratch/foul?

Equal offense:

- If you run 14 w/o a miss, you make a short rack with 5 balls and have to open them with the CB as you make the 15th ball - correct?
 
Not Dead Ted said:
Would appreciate rules clarification (if , in fact, actual rules exist):

Bowliards:

- Is it BIH after break (kitchen or anywhere), or play it where the CB is?
Anywhere
- Balls made on break spotted or left down?
Left Down

- BIH anywhere (or kitchen) after first miss or play from where CB is?
Anywhere

- BIH anywhere or kitchen after scratch/foul?
Anywhere


Equal offense:

- If you run 14 w/o a miss, you make a short rack with 5 balls and have to open them with the CB as you make the 15th ball - correct?
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Answers to Bowliards in blue.
Kelly
 
There is no official way to play bowlliards. It's really up to you as to the level of difficulty you would like to inject into the game.

Personally, I'm a BIH kind of guy as much as possible. :embarrassed2:
 
TX Poolnut said:
There is no official way to play bowlliards. It's really up to you as to the level of difficulty you would like to inject into the game.

Personally, I'm a BIH kind of guy as much as possible. :embarrassed2:
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True enough. My answers were based on suggested rules in Billiards Digest when I first saw it years ago.

Kelly
 
Not Dead Ted said:
Would appreciate rules clarification (if , in fact, actual rules exist):

Bowliards:

- Is it BIH after break (kitchen or anywhere), or play it where the CB is?
- Balls made on break spotted or left down?
- BIH anywhere (or kitchen) after first miss or play from where CB is?
- BIH anywhere or kitchen after scratch/foul?

Equal offense:

- If you run 14 w/o a miss, you make a short rack with 5 balls and have to open them with the CB as you make the 15th ball - correct?
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Both Bowlliards and Equal Offense are in the BCA (Congress, not League) rule book and have been for a long time, which I guess qualifies them as official.

Bowlliards: Cue ball begins in hand behind the headstring after an open break. All balls made on the break spot, and any scratch does not count against. If the first turn of a rack ends in a foul, the cue ball is in the kitchen for the start of the second turn.
Equal Offense: The second rack of a turn is the standard 14-ball 14.1 rack.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Both Bowlliards and Equal Offense are in the BCA (Congress, not League) rule book and have been for a long time, which I guess qualifies them as official.

Bowlliards: Cue ball begins in hand behind the headstring after an open break. All balls made on the break spot, and any scratch does not count against. If the first turn of a rack ends in a foul, the cue ball is in the kitchen for the start of the second turn.
Equal Offense: The second rack of a turn is the standard 14-ball 14.1 rack.
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I stand corrected. :smile:
 
Bob Jewett said:
Both Bowlliards and Equal Offense are in the BCA (Congress, not League) rule book and have been for a long time, which I guess qualifies them as official.

Bowlliards: Cue ball begins in hand behind the headstring after an open break. All balls made on the break spot, and any scratch does not count against. If the first turn of a rack ends in a foul, the cue ball is in the kitchen for the start of the second turn.
Equal Offense: The second rack of a turn is the standard 14-ball 14.1 rack.
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Bob, could you provide a link to the rules for these two games on the BCA website. I can't find them, at least not under the rules under the "play pool" tab.
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
Bob, could you provide a link to the rules for these two games on the BCA website. I can't find them, at least not under the rules under the "play pool" tab.
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Google can't find anything there either (Google search "bowlliards site:bca-pool.com"). So, I guess you have to get a rule book. The printed rule book has the rules for about 40 games.

(edit) .... I see that Google Books has the 1990 rule book sort of on-line. You can get to the rules for Equal Offense by doing a search for:

site:books.google.com "other popular pocket billiard games"

which gets you to the first page of the "Other Games" section and you can then scroll down to bowlliards or equal offense.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Google can't find anything there either (Google search "bowlliards site:bca-pool.com"). So, I guess you have to get a rule book. The printed rule book has the rules for about 40 games.

(edit) .... I see that Google Books has the 1990 rule book sort of on-line. You can get to the rules for Equal Offense by doing a search for:

site:books.google.com "other popular pocket billiard games"

which gets you to the first page of the "Other Games" section and you can then scroll down to bowlliards or equal offense.
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Thanks, Bob. In Bowliards it doesn't specifically state if the 2nd try of an inning begins with balls in position, BIH-kitchen, or NIH-anywhere. I read it to mean balls in position. Is this your understanding?

Also, for Equal Offense" the rule book simply says that scoring is 1 point for each ball pocketed but doesn't explain the last five balls are in rotation at 2 points each resulting in a possible 20 points per rack. Did I miss something?
 
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DogsPlayingPool said:
Thanks, Bob. In Bowliards it doesn't specifically state if the 2nd try of an inning begins with balls in position, BIH-kitchen, or NIH-anywhere. I read it to mean balls in position. Is this your understanding?

Also, for Equal Offense" the rule book simply says that scoring is 1 point for each ball pocketed but doesn't explain the last five balls are in rotation at 2 points each resulting in a possible 20 points per rack. Did I miss something?
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Bowlliards: as I read it you start your second try with balls in position. BIH in the kitchen seems only to apply after a foul ends the first try.

EO: No, there is no rotation phase in Equal Offense. That's in Hopkins' Q-Skill and Fargo. EO is all straight pool except for the first break of a turn.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Bowlliards: as I read it you start your second try with balls in position. BIH in the kitchen seems only to apply after a foul ends the first try.

EO: No, there is no rotation phase in Equal Offense. That's in Hopkins' Q-Skill and Fargo. EO is all straight pool except for the first break of a turn.
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So in EO, if you run the first 14 balls you are entitled to a 14.1 style re-rack and can run up to a total of 20 (another 6)? Otherwise how do you score 20 points in an inning?
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
So in EO, if you run the first 14 balls you are entitled to a 14.1 style re-rack and can run up to a total of 20 (another 6)? Otherwise how do you score 20 points in an inning?
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Yes, just like that. I suppose a minor rule is that you cannot score 21 in a turn by pocketing 2 balls on your last shot.
 
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