Rules & Etiquette in Competition

Jude Rosenstock

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So last night was the league finals at my home room and during one of the final games of match, I saw something that I thought was inexcuseable. One of the players was safed and as he approached the table, he stepped up to the adjacent table and playfully shot the cueball into the pocket.

Now, just to make things clear, this was NOT the match table but the table nearby. There was nothing to suggest the shot served any purpose than to simply clear the table and it could only be viewed as a casual silly act. However, I thought it was inexcuseable because it could have been ruled a foul or even worse, a loss of game for practicing while a match was in session.

My point (I hope he reads this) is that you must always protect yourself during competition. Of course, there will be the occasional lapses in concentration but you can't compound that with casual etiquette. It will only get you in trouble. Always try to adhere to the below list. Anyone wishing to add to it, feel free.

1. Sit in your chair and remain still until it's your turn to shoot.
2. Get out of your opponent's way BEFORE he asks
3. Don't reach for your water when your opponent is down on a shot.
4. Always take a bathroom/smoke break when it is your turn at the table.
5. Always verify ball-in-hand.
6. Get acknowledgement from your opponent when announcing a call (pushing, safeties, unusual shots)
7. Turn your cellphone off


The important thing here is, don't be casual about etiquette. Competition is always formal and you owe it to yourself, your teammates and your friends to let your game be the determinant and nothing else.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
1. Sit in your chair and remain still until it's your turn to shoot.
2. Get out of your opponent's way BEFORE he asks
3. Don't reach for your water when your opponent is down on a shot.
4. Never take a bathroom/smoke break when it is your opponent's turn at the table.
5. Always verify ball-in-hand.
6. Get acknowledgement from your opponent when announcing a call (pushing, safeties, unusual shots)
7. Turn your cellphone off
Jude - Just a minor correction to your #4... I guessing that is what you intended. Just didn't read right the other way.
 
Don't shoot your shot with a ciggarrette hanging out of your mouth.

This one really bugs me. Not because I am a non smoker, but because it shows a total disregard for the game. How can you concentrate with smoke wafting past your eyes? To me it shows you either do not care, or you are dissing your opponent, saying you do not need to concentrate to beat them.
 
I would add:

8. Give your opponent the same rack that you would give yourself.
9. Public displays of angst regarding your own play are not appreciated and are a distraction to your opponent. Punish yourself silently.
 
cigardave said:
I would add:

8. Give your opponent the same rack that you would give yourself.

See, I used to do this and people complained. I slug myself all the time.

cigardave said:
9. Public displays of angst regarding your own play are not appreciated and are a distraction to your opponent. Punish yourself silently.

It's the one thing I've always enjoyed about watching Efren Reyes. When he misses, he smiles, scratches his head, sits down. I bet the man has never broken a cue in his life.
 
Wait one minute. You mean I have to stop throwing spitwads at my opponent, give him good racks, quit twirling my cue (ninja style!) while he's at the table, stop going to the bathroom to juice up, actually be quiet during his turn, cursing him out loud to the bystanders? Where's the fun in that?
 
cigardave said:
I would add:

9. Public displays of angst regarding your own play are not appreciated and are a distraction to your opponent. Punish yourself silently.

Here's where we differ, I want my opponent to be angry and wear it on his sleeve. Better for me I think.
 
soulcatcher said:
Don't shoot your shot with a ciggarrette hanging out of your mouth.

This one really bugs me. Not because I am a non smoker, but because it shows a total disregard for the game. How can you concentrate with smoke wafting past your eyes? To me it shows you either do not care, or you are dissing your opponent, saying you do not need to concentrate to beat them.


Just wait - smoking is going to be illegal in your neck of the woods in no time.
 
10). Good sportsmanship.

(or, No unsportsmanship type conduct permitted)
 
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Great post, Jude. IMO, it definitely should be a foul for him to do that. We shouldn't have to "decide" whether it was practice that would help him with his "real" shot, or if it was just an innocent act. This is one where, IMO, intent doesn't really matter.

One could make the argument that hitting a shot on another table before ones actual shot (whatever the shot(s) may be) helps one to loosen up, etc., at least a little bit, and that should not be allowed.

I don't know if I'd bother trying to call the foul on him in every situation, but ideally I think the foul should be called.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
With some of my sparring partners it's a foul if your cellphone rings during the match and loss of game if you answer it.

pj
chgo


I think that's a great rule. Personally, I think the only time your cellphone should not be on silent is when you're home. There is no appropriate place in public for a cellphone ringer to be heard.
 
soulcatcher said:
Don't shoot your shot with a ciggarrette hanging out of your mouth.

This one really bugs me. Not because I am a non smoker, but because it shows a total disregard for the game. How can you concentrate with smoke wafting past your eyes? To me it shows you either do not care, or you are dissing your opponent, saying you do not need to concentrate to beat them.

I'd like to add that it's disrespectful to the equipment as well. Might as well make it a foul, IMO, any time a smoke, a drink, or food is held above the table. It's unsportsmanlike to unnecessarily risk damage to the equipment. :D
 
crawfish said:
Wait one minute. You mean I have to stop throwing spitwads at my opponent, give him good racks, quit twirling my cue (ninja style!) while he's at the table, stop going to the bathroom to juice up, actually be quiet during his turn, cursing him out loud to the bystanders? Where's the fun in that?

Actually, you can continue to do all of that so long as you start wearing a hat. The glare from your head is very distracting!

XXXOO,

eric
 
Cuebacca said:
Great post, Jude. IMO, it definitely should be a foul for him to do that. We shouldn't have to "decide" whether it was practice that would help him with his "real" shot, or if it was just an innocent act. This is one where, IMO, intent doesn't really matter.

One could make the argument that hitting a shot on another table before ones actual shot (whatever the shot(s) may be) helps one to loosen up, etc., at least a little bit, and that should not be allowed.

I don't know if I'd bother trying to call the foul on him in every situation, but ideally I think the foul should be called.


I agree with you Cuebacca but there's a little more to my point. My point, more than anything, is that you don't do it because it serves no purpose. Such an act can only get you in trouble. Beyond that, it's important to follow formal etiquette rules.

Just a few examples:

In 2003 at the BCA Open Team Championships, my teammate kicked at the 8-ball. He failed to hit the 8 on the first rebound yet there was enough speed on the cueball to skim it on the second rebound and make contact with the rail. His opponent immediately went for his cue having watched the initial miss and picked up the cueball while saying, "Ball in hand, right?" Right,but not for him! By touching the cue ball, he fouled and my teammate was back at the table with BIH on the 8. The opponent should have verified, had he done so, they would have won that game and the match.

Last year at the same event, I attempted a safety while making contact with a ball sitting near the jaws of the pocket. I said nothing because I was certain I wouldn't pocket the ball anyway. Well, I accidentally did pocket the ball, left myself in an awkward spot and continued shooting knowing that I couldn't just say to my opponent, "Well, I MEANT TO call safe there." From there on out, I made it clear whenever I played safe and there was ANY remote chance I could pocket anything.
 
Cuebacca said:
I'd like to add that it's disrespectful to the equipment as well. Might as well make it a foul, IMO, any time a smoke, a drink, or food is held above the table. It's unsportsmanlike to unnecessarily risk damage to the equipment. :D

I agree. You see it all the time, beer glass set down on the felt while they rack. A couple of my regular bars have signs that read "Any drink on the table will be thrown out immediately".
 
soulcatcher said:
I agree. You see it all the time, beer glass set down on the felt while they rack. A couple of my regular bars have signs that read "Any drink on the table will be thrown out immediately".


Wow, in New York, they leave the beer alone and throw out the offender.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Wow, in New York, they leave the beer alone and throw out the offender.

Proabably a better solution. I get in their face when I see it. One guy told me "You don't own this bar". I told him, "No, but I have to shoot on these tables."
 
cigardave said:
Jude - Just a minor correction to your #4... I guessing that is what you intended. Just didn't read right the other way.

LOL. Could be tough taking those bathroom breaks every turn even for us older guys whose bladders have shrunken up to the size of a walnut.
 
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