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Haven't been playing too long and a few questions came up the other day...

Cue ball and last ball are in the rack? I have been told by people I consider very knowledgable about the game that the cue ball is in hand in the kitchen as normal and the last ball is racked for a full rack. Others have come up with something about spotting the last ball in the center of the table.

The other that I'm not sure about is if a player scratches and all balls left on the table are in the kitchen. Is the next player required to shoot down table and back into a ball in the kitchen? I have also heard something about he is allowed to shoot the closest ball to the footspot?
 
morrow95 said:
Haven't been playing too long and a few questions came up the other day...

Cue ball and last ball are in the rack? I have been told by people I consider very knowledgable about the game that the cue ball is in hand in the kitchen as normal and the last ball is racked for a full rack. Others have come up with something about spotting the last ball in the center of the table.

The other that I'm not sure about is if a player scratches and all balls left on the table are in the kitchen. Is the next player required to shoot down table and back into a ball in the kitchen? I have also heard something about he is allowed to shoot the closest ball to the footspot?
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Cue ball and last ball both in the rack is a full rack with the ball-in-hand in the kitchen.

As for a scratch with all balls in the kitchen, I may be wrong on this, but isn't the closest ball to the head string spotted on the footspot? I do know you're not forced to go down and back. Quite honestly, I've never seen or had this situation come up, so I would be interested to know what the rule is, too.
 
scratch and all balls in the kitchen

I believe the following general rule would be in force:

1.5 Cue Ball in Hand
When the cue ball is in hand, the shooter may place the cue ball anywhere on the playing surface (see 8.1 Parts of the Table) and may continue to move the cue ball until he executes a shot. (See definition 8.2 Shot.) Players may use any part of the cue stick to move the cue ball, including the tip, but not with a forward stroke motion. In some games and for most break shots, placement of the cue ball may be restricted to the area behind the head string depending on the rules of the game, and then 6.10 Bad Cue Ball Placement and 6.11 Bad Play from Behind the Head String may apply.
When the shooter has the cue ball in hand behind the head string and all the legal object balls are behind the head string, he may request the legal object ball nearest the head string to be spotted. If two or more balls are equal distance from the head string, the shooter may designate which of the equidistant balls is to be spotted. An object ball that rests exactly on the head string is playable.

So the shooter can ask for a ball to be spotted.

Jim Eales
 
morrow95 -- as someone fairly new to the game, you'd definitely benefit from actually reading the rules. It's even a good idea for experienced players to re-read them once in a while. Some experienced players probably have never read the current version of the rules. As always, one also needs to know whether a particular event or league is playing under any modifications to the normal rules.

 
AtLarge said:
morrow95 -- as someone fairly new to the game, you'd definitely benefit from actually reading the rules. It's even a good idea for experienced players to re-read them once in a while. Some experienced players probably have never read the current version of the rules. As always, one also needs to know whether a particular event or league is playing under any modifications to the normal rules.

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The above link: Special Racking Situations
 
morrow95 said:
Haven't been playing too long and a few questions came up the other day...

Cue ball and last ball are in the rack? I have been told by people I consider very knowledgable about the game that the cue ball is in hand in the kitchen as normal and the last ball is racked for a full rack. Others have come up with something about spotting the last ball in the center of the table.
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Only when the last ball is in the rack and the cue ball is on the headspot. Because the last ball would normally be spotted onto the headspot, and because the headspot is already occupied by the cue ball, the 15th ball goes to the center spot.


If it were the reverse, where the 15th ball ended up on or touching the head spot and the cue ball ended up in the rack, then for the same reason, the cue ball would go to the center spot.


These situations very rarely come up.
 
I got a question about straight pool.... actually two, I didn't want to create another thread.


if you had the last 2 balls on the table, 14th and 15th ball, then you called one, pocketed it, and cueball went and carom the last 15th ball and it went in. how do you deal with this? in scoring + in the balls?

also if in middle of the rack, you called one ball, then you shoot it in really hard, then cueball went on and made another say 2 or 3 balls by accident.... how many points is that, do you count every other ball that went inside? How to score, and what to do on this situation? thanks.
 
As long as you make the called shot, all balls pocketed count as a point apiece. If you make the 14th and 15th on the final shot and the 14th goes where it was called, you rack all 15 balls, count 2 points and continue shooting from where the cue ball came to rest. If it was in the rack, it goes behind the headspot.
 
I can't find a specific answer to this in the rules.

I shot a very thin cut and missed the ball. The cue ball then hit another ball and that ball or the cue ball or both made rail contact. My opponent called foul. Was he correct?

Dave Nelson
 
Dave Nelson said:
I can't find a specific answer to this in the rules.

I shot a very thin cut and missed the ball. The cue ball then hit another ball and that ball or the cue ball or both made rail contact. My opponent called foul. Was he correct?

Dave Nelson
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He is not correct. That is not a foul. As long as the CB hits ANY ball and then the CB or ANY object ball touch a rail, it is not a foul. There is no rule that states the CB MUST contact the particular object ball you intended to pocket.
 
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