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Learn how to recover from "straight in position".
One way is to shoot rail first with draw when the cuball and object balls are under an couple inches off the rail. Cueball goes straight up table. Not a hard shot with practice.
Otherwise force follow with English or draw out 2 rails to the top long rail.
So i could put a 7 ball along that rail so you would realize the need to play for that one pocket on the 4. I have stated multiple times why that pocket.
I'd zig zag 3 to 4 from here.
Maybe shallower with the cue ball - around D 1.5
Maybe shallower with the cue ball - around D 1.5
Moe Szyslak
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You just drag and move them around wherever you want.
The entire run goes to hell if you don't get good on the two.
1.) Punch the 1 with a little speed and come off the side rail stopping approximately parallel to the 2 ball.
2.) Shoot the slight back cut on the 2 with high running, traveling diagonally down the table using both side rails and floating off the bottom of the last side rail for a slight angle on the 3. (This is a bread and butter type shot that all players should know and should be practiced a lot). There are alternatives if you miss position, but you have to know your stuff to get down for the 3.
2.) Check the angle you have on the 3 to determine which side of the 4 you will have the cb land. The preference is for a smaller angle on the 3 to be able to shoot the 4 up table and follow with the cb to the 5. You don't want to wind up with a back cut on the 4. Keep the cb either straight in on the 4 or slightly outside the 4 to where you can still use topspin and bump off the side rail on the way up table.
If the angle is too strong on the 3, then you will have to work a little harder to get above the 4 and get a good line to draw straight back (or close to it) for the 5. If you get too much angle getting on top of the 4, you will have to draw back 2 rails, and then the 6 comes into play, so watch out.
3.) After floating up table when shooting the 4 try to get within one diamond's worth angle on the 5 so you can float up for position shooting the 6 down table.
1.) Punch the 1 with a little speed and come off the side rail stopping approximately parallel to the 2 ball.
2.) Shoot the slight back cut on the 2 with high running, traveling diagonally down the table using both side rails and floating off the bottom of the last side rail for a slight angle on the 3. (This is a bread and butter type shot that all players should know and should be practiced a lot). There are alternatives if you miss position, but you have to know your stuff to get down for the 3.
2.) Check the angle you have on the 3 to determine which side of the 4 you will have the cb land. The preference is for a smaller angle on the 3 to be able to shoot the 4 up table and follow with the cb to the 5. You don't want to wind up with a back cut on the 4. Keep the cb either straight in on the 4 or slightly outside the 4 to where you can still use topspin and bump off the side rail on the way up table.
If the angle is too strong on the 3, then you will have to work a little harder to get above the 4 and get a good line to draw straight back (or close to it) for the 5. If you get too much angle getting on top of the 4, you will have to draw back 2 rails, and then the 6 comes into play, so watch out.
3.) After floating up table when shooting the 4 try to get within one diamond's worth angle on the 5 so you can float up for position shooting the 6 down table.
sudocrushms
Well-known member
Nice but I wasn't trying to do it the easy way.
Thanks for taking the time to post this. That is the percentage way. If you read my posts I am playing this in a certain way to work on a few weaknesses in my game.
That’s a different situation
How did you draw the lines and circles?
Well, I did give you the alternative of shooting the 4 in your chosen corner if you would have read my post thoroughly. That happens when you get a sharper angle on the 3 than allows you to stay under the 4.
Regarding practicing more difficult layouts, I would recommend that you don't set up a layout where there is a better alternative. You'll just be teaching yourself to do things the hard way. If you want to practice more difficult layouts, then set up the layout to where you don't have an easier alternative. At least you won't be screwing around with your sub-conscious mind that takes it all in.
Awesome. The only explanation.
Fran I did read your post and as I already said I appreciate the time and effort you put into it.
Your practice idea does make sense as my subconscious did hamper me a bit in working this runout. I did have the balls in positions that forced concentration on proper execution without adding extra balls on the table as resetting the extra balls would be time consuming. I bet I missed position on the 3 to get to where I wanted on the 4 at least 50 times. I feel confident I can play the 2 and get workable position now to pocket the 3 to get where I want on the 4 around 80% now. I do know that I will be better off looking for a better route if it is available.
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No worries. It didn't take any time. Remember, I used to play on tour. If I can't read a table in a quick glance, then I didn't deserve to play against the top level women players. I think you have the right idea in challenging yourself. Just make sure you remember that your sub-conscious mind is incapable of reason. It only repeats and reacts the way it's taught --- mainly through repetition. It's your conscious mind that does all the reasoning.
The best pool is not directed by conscious thought. It's muscle memory...like someone playing an instrument who isn't even thinking of finger placement.
To be a player...you have to practice in ways that develop the ability to read a table, get down and execute under pressure....to where it's automatic. Learn to play tired and embrace it because any tournament or gambling session you are in will require you to win with your worst (most tired) game.
I saved the photo as a PDF and edited it in Bluebeam/Revu.