Running 100 in straight pool

drivermaker said:
Do you think you could post some of the worst swear words in Finnish that I could use for future flame wars? :D

Of course...allthough... I think, those are very familiar all over the world.

Jus let me know, if you need a translation too :D

Regards

Obelix
 
Obelix said:
Asun Ruskolla aivan Turun kupeessa. Asuin siellä päin (Vantaalla) heti lyhyen Snooker uran jälkeen nelisen vuotta.

Tosin olen siellä päin useinkin työn puolesta päiväsaikaan. Usein voisin jäädä sinne päin pelailemaankin muutamaksi tunniksi. Kaikki apu on tässä vaiheessa on tarpeen ja tuottaa korkoa tulevaisuudessa.

Turun alueella ei Straight'iä juuri pelata.

For Every others. My humble apologize for everyone using my motherlanguage, finnish. I just wanted to write this one as quickly as possible.
My little son is boring and needs a friend for the other games.


Regards
Terveisin

Obelix
Kimmo Lamminen

Ilmoittele mulle jos olet joskus tulossa tännepäin ja haluat pelata. Laita vaikka yksityisviestiä tänne etukäteen tai jotain viimeistään edellisenä päivänä, niin käydään pelaamassa. Itse olen pelaillut vuosien mittaan aika paljon 14.1:stä ja muutamat rankingit tullut voitettua niin löytyy ainakin jotain tietotaitoa.

Sorry for that. I felt more comfortable answering in Finnish. Forgive me. :p
I was just telling how great people are in AzB and how good they play and... you know. :cool:
 
hobokenapa said:
My personal pool goal is to run 100. In fact, I have a website that monitors my progress.

It is extremely difficult. I haven't played Straight for six months or so, but at that time my high was 47. I felt this was the correct high for my ability (I had one other 40+ and 15 30+). I know I have improved over the last 3-4 months, and I feel if I played a lot of Straight, I now have the ability to get to 50 or 60.

Getting 100 I am told is much tougher. Someone I met at Comet Billiards, NJ took two years from breaking 50 to breaking 100, and he worked in a pool hall and played 4-6 hours every day.

Any comments from 100 ball runners? How long did it take you to break through Steve (Lipsky) ?

What is your website? I think I might do the same on my website.
Cheers!
 
drivermaker said:
Running 100 balls is OVER 7 CONSECUTIVE racks. That means you're going to have to leave your last OB and CB at a perfect angle everytime for 7 racks, and you'll have to know what type of english to use coming off of the break shot in order not to get stuck in the pack, or run yourself too far down table.
You'll also need to learn how to read patterns properly and pick your spots well in advance to further break the rack open. Do you know the best ways?

Do you know what to do and how to break up the balls from behind the rack or both sides with a variety of angles facing you? Do you know how to throw 2 and 3 ball combination shots into a hole? Do you know all of the tricks to carom balls when it looks like you have NOTHING under the sun? Can you pocket a ball and then jump the CB over an obstacle ball to get free and clear for the rest of the rack? Can you make the corner ball on a full rack with a one rail bank in the side when you're dead behind the rack?

Can you run over 7 straight racks of balls in the Q-Skills Challenge game without missing a ball?

If you can't run 7 straight racks in the Q-Skills Challenge game or don't know what I'm talking about in the other areas...your chances are slim and none, and slim just left town!

But the most important question is...why on Earth would you be opposed to seeking personal help or learning from someone that CAN regularly run 100 balls. It makes no sense.

I didn't mean to suggest that I'm opposed to playing with or getting help from 100 ball runners. Actually, nothing can be farther from the truth. I would love to play with someone that is a strong straight pool player. I just need to find someone that is willing and able to work with me. I've always prefered to play with players that are better than me.

Regarding the beginning of your post. I tryed the q-skills thing, about 8 or 10 years ago, when Allen introduced it at the Valley Forge event. I remember that I scored above average at the q-skills challenge they had, but I have never tried it since. As far as the other skills and knowledge that you mentioned, it would be hard for me to convey my abilities in words in this forum. Let's just say, I think i have a good understanding of cue ball control, combinations, throw, etc. The more I play, I have been finding ways to nudge balls to create break balls. I think my pattern play is getting better. I think I'm ok at finding "dead" balls in the pack, but I admit that they don't always go where I would like. Everytime I miss, I always watch to see where the ball goes to understand how I hit it wrong.

Bottom line...I'm not claiming that I have all the skills/knowledge that you listed, but if I did I probably would already be running 80 balls and wouldn't be asking my original question.

I do appreciate your response. Thanks.
 
Well, my story isn't as happy as some of those I've read in this thread. I've run over 90 twice but never 100.

Most of the straight pool I've played in my life was before 2000, and I'd guess I've had about fifteen runs of 70 or better, but 100 just hasn't happened for me.

Straight pool is difficult. Leaps in your high run tend to come a rack at a time. Once you've run 28, then 42 is a realistic goal.

A lot like nine ball. There are many that have run three racks in a row, but not many have run seven racks in a row in nine ball.

Set your mind to it and you may run 100, but learn the theory. Cappelle's book is excellent, and so is Rempe's tape.
 
That is a great story Stan!

Thanks for taking the time to tell it. Maybe I'll take the same approach. The numbers are interesting, too. As far as, the number of times you ran 100 vs. the number of 30 and 40+ racks you had. I guess I have a lot of work to do!

Thanks Stan!
 
mjantti said:
Ilmoittele mulle jos olet joskus tulossa tännepäin ja haluat pelata. Laita vaikka yksityisviestiä tänne etukäteen tai jotain viimeistään edellisenä päivänä, niin käydään pelaamassa. Itse olen pelaillut vuosien mittaan aika paljon 14.1:stä ja muutamat rankingit tullut voitettua niin löytyy ainakin jotain tietotaitoa.

Sorry for that. I felt more comfortable answering in Finnish. Forgive me. :p
I was just telling how great people are in AzB and how good they play and... you know. :cool:
Are you Finnish(ed) talking about us?? Get It... I'm a Punny Guy!!
 
Good luck, I ran 90odd three times in two weeks the first time I played it really and I tried to break a hundred. Sadly I haven't had the chance too soon even though I'm now armed with some extra knowledge which I'm dying to use!

ANyway if youre interested and havent already seen it this video will teach you two things...

a) How NOT to move the cue ball around

and...

b) How NOT to choke on 96 or something!

Sorry about the shamless plug ;-)

http://www.thelifeofriley.org/gallery/videos.cfm
 
I have a question about high runs in Straight pool... Are all you guys talking about in competition/ or from a drill... The thing is if ya start your run at or near the end of a match in comp... ya cant exactly keep going a lot of times...

If its during a drill (I have been doing the one mentioned in this forum where you break the rack then spot made balls and take BIH behind head spot, but stopping at 20 for the drill purpose) isn't it easier to start a big run that way because the balls are spread real well to begin... In a competition you wont have that advantage all the time...

I would say a 100 run in comp would be real special due to safeties, pressure, and the fact that you don't go over 125/150 too often in competitive matches... just the odds that you start your run early enough and do the deed would make it special...
 
Hi Steve,
Very impressive 177 ball run! Your post and everyone else's posts are confirming some of the challenges I will have to overcome to get to 100. I'm gonna keep plugging away. Hopefully, I'll meet up with someone that can "mentor" me to get to where I want to go.

Thanks for the interesting post. As a lurker, I've always liked your posts, BTW.

Cheers!
 
Salamander said:
My 2 cents worth...

- first accomplish running 10 racks of 15 balls randomly thrown out on the table (no balls touching). Although some would say that this is mindless...it helps you with the mental discipline of not missing for 150 balls.

- throw 3,4, or 5 balls balls out randomly, and with ball in hand shoot them in playing around a break ball. Rack the balls and try a break shot. Repeat until you are VERY comfortable getting to the break shot.

- Practice various break shots over and over again.

- practice on a forgiving table. Single shimmed if possible. Nice cloth.

- Log your results. Don't give too much thought to how many you are running, just go about you're business. With practice you will begin to run 30's consistantly. Followed by the occasional 50. When everything is clicking you will run 60 something someday. At that point 100 is in range.

Best of luck.

Regards,

Doug

Thanks for the suggestions Doug! The last time I played, I played on a Double=shimmed table. It's fairly stingy. It realy made me concentrate on every shot. All the other tables at my pool hall are single-shimmed (i think).

Cheers!
 
Hey Skippy!

I notice your location says Frederick, MD.

I live in Columbia. We play straight pool every Wednesday evening at Bill & Billies Cuesport in Arnold, MD near Annapolis. I'd estimate that it is about an hour 15 minutes from Frederick. It is a league with 40 players this session. The session just started and the next one would probably be around March.

My high run is a mere 41 even though I've run 5 racks of 9 ball. There are about 8 or 10 better players than me in the league. Last session, there was a 70+ and the session before that 95. You could always stop by and check out the competition and find a sparring partner that lives closer to Frederick.

Doug Sharp is a certified BCA instructor that lives somewhere around Rockville and is an excellent straight pool player.

Good luck on that 100!
Andy
 
I am like you I usually play 9 ball. I just started playing straight pool and I have ran 49 balls and I have only played about 10 times. I usually play on a tight 9footer so It could be better on a looser one. The best thing I did was just watch a accu-stats straight pool match. I picked out alot of things in it. Billy Incardona really explains everything. I believe that If I can run 49 balls I could most deffianately run 100 balls with enough experience and I bet you could too.

best of luck
 
alinco said:
Hey Skippy!

I notice your location says Frederick, MD.

I live in Columbia. We play straight pool every Wednesday evening at Bill & Billies Cuesport in Arnold, MD near Annapolis. I'd estimate that it is about an hour 15 minutes from Frederick. It is a league with 40 players this session. The session just started and the next one would probably be around March.

My high run is a mere 41 even though I've run 5 racks of 9 ball. There are about 8 or 10 better players than me in the league. Last session, there was a 70+ and the session before that 95. You could always stop by and check out the competition and find a sparring partner that lives closer to Frederick.

Doug Sharp is a certified BCA instructor that lives somewhere around Rockville and is an excellent straight pool player.

Good luck on that 100!
Andy
Hi Andy,
Thanks for the info! That sounds like just what I need. Right now, I work every Wed. night (night shift :( ), but maybe I could get up there one night just to meet some folks and watch some action. I'll keep Doug's name for future reference. Does he play in the league too?

Thanks again and hopefully I'll get up your way to play some.
Cheers!
 
I'm not a great straight pool player, but based on my limited experience, I think the advice you have been getting is right on. I know personally that the two things I learned pretty quickly were:

1. You have to know how to recognize/manufacture good break shots and key balls (and you must be able to get good position on them).

2. You have to know how to shoot each different type of break shot (how hard to shoot, whether to use center ball or high ball or low ball, what type of english, etc.).

If you can't do those two things, you're not going to run many racks. I think the advice about putting 4 or 5 balls out and playing for a break shot is very good. Most decent players can probably run a rack down to the last 4 or 5 balls. But that's where they will usually screw up. That's what's so great about Accu-Stats. You get to see how pros handle that part of the rack. I would definitely recommend the Mike Sigel vs Mike Zuglan match. Mike Sigel is nearly flawless in that match. Also the Jim Rempe instructional tapes and Mike Sigel instructional tapes are really good. BTW, Sigel's going to be releasing some new instructional tapes soon. If any of them cover straight pool, I'll definitely buy them.
 
mjantti said:
Ilmoittele mulle jos olet joskus tulossa tännepäin ja haluat pelata. Laita vaikka yksityisviestiä tänne etukäteen tai jotain viimeistään edellisenä päivänä, niin käydään pelaamassa. Itse olen pelaillut vuosien mittaan aika paljon 14.1:stä ja muutamat rankingit tullut voitettua niin löytyy ainakin jotain tietotaitoa.

Sorry for that. I felt more comfortable answering in Finnish. Forgive me. :p
I was just telling how great people are in AzB and how good they play and... you know. :cool:

This time I will only use english (not left one), since I'm getting a feeling that some people around here are more familiar with it.

Thank you for your invitation. There are not many possibilities to play with League players in Turku area. I quite often get to play Kastaja, Nuno and Mr. Pool Professor (Pehu) in the local tournaments arranged weekly. Keihola is playing at the same Private Club so he is also a good opponent to play. But even Keihola is not for example well aware of the rules in Straigt Pool. They all are mainly playing 9-ball and 8-ball and mostly in tournaments.

I will send a private message next time I'm going to drive around. You are also welcomed to play into our Club in Turku area when visiting nearby.

We have three 9' tables (one K-Steel and 2 Olympics) dressed with 860.

Best Regards

Obelix
 
Addicted2CuesRU said:
Are you Finnish(ed) talking about us?? Get It... I'm a Punny Guy!!

Hah, got it. Not the first time... I think my friend from Poland could Polish things up here. Very punny, very punny ! :D

And if you order the chech in a restaurant in Czech Republic by saying "Check please!" the waitor/waitress might say "Well, here I am".

Enough with puns already ? :rolleyes:
 
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