Same Old Same Old

[SpiderWebComm]

lol

How can you be so obsessed with me and get such basic facts wrong? I've played pool since I was a teenager. I started playing a lot twenty-some years ago. I started playing daily a few years ago.

If you can't remember these basic facts I'll have to get a new stalker who can.

pj <- can't get good stalkers any more
chgo

The biggest stalker on this forum is YOU as you stalk every post or thread regarding CTE, Stan, Hal Houle, and successful users of CTE AS YOU HAVE FOR 18 CONSECUTIVE YEARS!

I didn't get ANY facts wrong because they're YOUR FACTS that you POSTED back in March when ENGLISH asked you how long you've been playing.

The post I'm quoting above doesn't match up at all with what you posted then which tells me YOU'RE A LIAR to save face and make yourself out to be a long time player which you aren't.

20 years ago you just picked up a cue to start playing a couple of times a week until retirement...NOT PLAYING A LOT!! No mention of teen years because it wasn't worth mentioning based on time put into the game.

GET YOUR FACTS STAIGHT...LIAR!!

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=5107543&highlight=playing+years#post5107543

03-04-2015, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENGLISH! View Post

Patrick,

If you don't mind could you tell me, just so I know, how long you've been playing the game?

Best 2 You & All,
Rick


I didn't start playing regularly (several times a week) until about 20 years ago. Since I retired a few years ago I've reached obsessive-compulsive level, playing just about every day.

pj
chgo

I can't wait for his next post of denials, spinning, backpedaling, and amendments to the TRUTH of his original post in March when his guard was caught down by ENGLISH.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Pat Johnson ... first picked up a cue 20 years ago

I've played pool since I was a teenager. I started playing a lot twenty-some years ago. I started playing daily a few years ago.

I didn't get ANY facts wrong because they're YOUR FACTS that you POSTED back in March when ENGLISH asked you how long you've been playing.
...YOU'RE A LIAR
...GET YOUR FACTS STAIGHT...LIAR!!

Well, here's that post from March (which, by the way, you quoted above)... exactly where are the differences?

I didn't start playing regularly (several times a week) until about 20 years ago. Since I retired a few years ago I've reached obsessive-compulsive level, playing just about every day.

pj
chgo

lol

pj <- looking to upgrade my stalker (must read English)
chgo

 

[JB Cases]

If you don't think this is utter nonsense, you could be a Houligan.

If the table was round, would you need square balls?

pj
chgo

For one thing, that was written a day after I spent the time with Hal. Who was I to question him after getting a first hand experience on the table and seeing the results.

Secondly, in the intervening years Stan has pretty much proven this to be true.

Put another way, if you give Stan a target pocket then he will find the CTE solution that takes it there if there is one. If it's a POSSIBLE shot then most of the time there is a CTE aim solution that works for it.

Now if you take a feel aimer and give them a target pocket, they may make it, they may miss but in all likelihood, if the two player's fundamentals are equally good the feel aimer will miss more often and miss by a larger margin in my opinion.

And I am referring to the shots which go to a pocket as well as single and multi-rail banks. CTE users cut balls in from stupid angles successful more often than feel aimers in my experience.

 

[JB Cases]

What's even funnier is there are two threads going in the aiming section about
CP2CP, something Pat Johnson has used since he first picked up a cue 20 years ago at age 47. Although he played only once or twice a week for many years until retirement, within 2 years of starting to play he was already an EXPERT on the subject of how to play when he made his first BASHING post about Hal and CTE in 1997.

One would think he could write his own thesis in these threads about the subject of Contact Point aiming because he had to analyze it to death from the start with graphs, charts, protractors, laser beams, lines, geometry, math, physics, coriolis force, gravity, humidity, and whatever else he thinks matters that's really a load of crap.

But what does he choose to do? Not much of anything with those threads in a POSITIVE fashion. Instead, he created another NEGTATIVE thread about CTE, Hal, JB, and whoever else gets sucked into the vortex of his obsession and insanity regarding CTE and it's creators.

This has to be one of the sickest minds on any type of forum in existence to keep it up for 18 straight years on an almost DAILY BASIS. What a waste and what a miserable existence.

Fully agree, the thread itself serves NO positive purpose.

What it does is to show that Hal's methods are not gone. Thanks to Stan Shuffett and many other instructors.

Tom Simpson for example was a skeptic until he trained with Hal and now he teaches versions of Hal's methods as part of his courses.

So in light of the fact that most of the top instructors in the United States teach some form of Hal's aiming methods we take this thread as a positive reminder that one doesn't need to know how all the nuts and bolts fit together to use a car or teach someone how to drive it.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Well, here's that post from March (which, by the way, you quoted above)... exactly where are the differences?


lol

pj <- looking to upgrade my stalker (must read English)
chgo

What's the difference? "A LOT"!

I KNOW you're grasping at straws now and would try to spin it any way you could and here you go.

You stated yesterday that you started playing A LOT 20 years ago.

In March you stated you played A FEW TIMES A WEEK starting about 20 years ago.
It probably wasn't even a consistent "few times a week" because Hal told me you didn't even have a table in your house at the time but do now.

If a FEW TIMES A WEEK is the same as A LOT, your measurement of frequency is pretty damn skewed if you think it's the same.

Now that you're retired and in fact playing everyday as you said, THAT IS A LOT.

Cut the crap with your spin and deflection word games already. It's real old.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

If you want to know how [CTE] works and you are analytical enough then LEARN IT - DESCRIBE IT - DEMONSTRATE PROFICIENT USE OF IT and THEN DISSECT IT. If you can't do that then stay out of it.

I've known how it works since it was first described on RSB - so has everybody else with any common sense. And we've "dissected" it repeatedly since then.

Since it's the CTE users who can't (or refuse to) understand how it works, maybe it's you who should "stay out of" conversations about how it works. If you'd stop creating an uproar every time that subject comes up you might learn something (stranger things have happened) - and it wouldn't come up so often.

pj
chgo

 

[Jal]

... ad hominem ranting......more of it....yet more....finally:

This has to be one of the sickest minds on any type of forum in existence to keep it up for 18 straight years on an almost DAILY BASIS.

We can only hope that more people come down with whatever's ailing him, especially the moderators. Then maybe we'd see these forums reemerge from the dark ages.

Jim......and they thought Bubonic Plague was a serious disease?

 

[Patrick Johnson]

We can only hope that more people come down with whatever's ailing him, especially the moderators. Then maybe we'd see these forums reemerge from the dark ages.

Jim......and they thought Bubonic Plague was a serious disease?

Forgive them, Jim, for they know not what they say.

pj <- literally
chgo

 

[stan shuffett]

I've known how it works since it was first described on RSB - so has everybody else with any common sense. And we've "dissected" it repeatedly since then.

Since it's the CTE users who can't (or refuse to) understand how it works, maybe it's you who should "stay out of" conversations about how it works. If you'd stop creating an uproar every time that subject comes up you might learn something (stranger things have happened) - and it wouldn't come up so often.

pj
chgo

You do NOT know CTE .......you can NOTpresent a series of shots to show that you understand CTE....

If you and I were at a table( and that can be arranged) YOU would look very silly within minutes.

You are big here on AZ about your CTE knowledge, but you know better than to venture out in front of a real audience and talk with me about CTE..it would be a disaster for you.

Let's meet at JB's facility during my book release. That would be an optimal time for you to take CTE down........the problem is...YOU CAN NOT DO THAT! You do NOT have the ability to do that.

Stan Shuffett

 

[SpiderWebComm]

We can only hope that more people come down with whatever's ailing him, especially the moderators. Then maybe we'd see these forums reemerge from the dark ages.

Jim......and they thought Bubonic Plague was a serious disease?

I can see you're a loyal Pat Johnson follower and defender. Some others might even call it sycophancy but I wouldn't do that.

You must have been on RSB when he was. From reading the archives, Ron Shepard perhaps?

 

[Patrick Johnson]

You do NOT know CTE .......you can NOTpresent a series of shots to show that you understand CTE....

If you and I were at a table( and that can be arranged) YOU would look very silly within minutes.

You are big here on AZ about your CTE knowledge, but you know better than to venture out in front of a real audience and talk with me about CTE..it would be a disaster for you.

The people here on CTE aren't "a real audience"?

Let's meet at JB's facility during my book release. That would be an optimal time for you to take CTE down........the problem is...YOU CAN NOT DO THAT! You do NOT have the ability to do that.

Stan Shuffett

Talking about how aiming systems work isn't "taking them down", Stan - you do more of that than I do by saying such silly things here. Good systems can withstand some analysis - you say so yourself when you're not grandstanding with the gladiator challenges.

I'm already doing what you say you want - talking about it. You're welcome to join in any time.

pj
chgo

P.S. I'll probably buy your book (although I suppose you can refuse to sell me one if you want).

 

[SpiderWebComm]

P.S. I'll probably buy your book (although I suppose you can refuse to sell me one if you want).

Buying something out of your own pocket would be a first. Nah, you'll just wait for a copy to be sent by one of your loyalists.

We all know why you can't wait to get your hands on the book even if you had to pay for it.

It would be to go through it page by page...paragraph by paragraph...sentence by sentence...and word by word to find anything possible you could twist, discredit, and destroy to keep this insanity of yours going for another two decades. Except for the fact you'll more than likely be dead before it goes that long.

 

[stan shuffett]

The people here on CTE aren't "a real audience"?


Talking about how aiming systems work isn't "taking them down", Stan - you do more of that than I do by saying such silly things here. Good systems can withstand some analysis - you say so yourself when you're not grandstanding with the gladiator challenges.

I'm already doing what you say you want - talking about it. You're welcome to join in any time.

pj
chgo

P.S. I'll probably buy your book (although I suppose you can refuse to sell me one if you want).

Audience........Pool is not a language or math game. Pool is visual motor. What I am saying is that at a table it will get real very quickly........You can't afford to get real because whatever cover you have remaining would be gone.

The fact is: You are lost when it comes to CTE at a table.....you know virtually nothing.

If you get my book it will be for no other reason than to discredit CTE and my work.

stan Shuffett

 

[cookie man]

I've known how it works since it was first described on RSB - so has everybody else with any common sense. And we've "dissected" it repeatedly since then.

Since it's the CTE users who can't (or refuse to) understand how it works, maybe it's you who should "stay out of" conversations about how it works. If you'd stop creating an uproar every time that subject comes up you might learn something (stranger things have happened) - and it wouldn't come up so often.

pj
chgo

Yet you continue to ask questions about CTE that shows you know very little, and make statements that confirm you know not much about it.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

...at a table it will get real very quickly...

You mean you'll dazzle me with your shotmaking? I'm already impressed with that - you're a great shotmaker. Unfortunately, that's not relevant to my topic.

If you mean you'd "get real" about the logical holes in the descriptions of how CTE works - that would be a first.

pj
chgo

 

[SpiderWebComm]

You mean you'll dazzle me with your shotmaking? I'm already impressed with that - you're a great shotmaker. Unfortunately, that's not relevant to my topic.

If you mean you'd "get real" about the logical holes in the descriptions of how CTE works - that would be a first.

pj
chgo

My guess is he might like to see you dazzle him with your shotmaking.

Then to see you "get real" as you humiliated yourself trying to poke holes logically (in your mind) or illogically as you demonstrated it ON THE TABLE.

On the table WOULD BE A FIRST for you instead of the keyboard. (hint: lizard head movement will be of no benefit with CTE)

 

[Patrick Johnson]

...trying to poke holes logically (in your mind) or illogically as you demonstrated it ON THE TABLE.

The logic of an aiming system can't be "demonstrated ON THE TABLE" (no matter how many capital letters you use) - it can only be "demonstrated" in your mind.

pj <- well, somebody's mind
chgo

 

[SpiderWebComm]

The logic of an aiming system can't be "demonstrated ON THE TABLE" (no matter how many capital letters you use) - it can only be "demonstrated" in your mind.

pj <- well, somebody's mind
chgo

You mean YOUR mind in the "logic and world of Pat Johnson".

 

[Jal]

I can see you're a loyal Pat Johnson follower and defender. Some others might even call it sycophancy but I wouldn't do that.

But did.

I am a fan of Patrick's for the dogged way he sniffs out ill begotten ideas and challenges them without hesitation (including my own!). But that doesn't mean I don't consider several members of the CTE group to be otherwise rational and intelligent beings either. (With only about six active neurons left, I'm not going to be too quick to cast aspersions). However, for some reason those members seem to have gone wacko (as in berserk) with regard to this rather small and, thankfully, innocuous topic.

You must have been on RSB when he was. From reading the archives, Ron Shepard perhaps?

Wish I were that smart. I'm just Jal......when I'm not channeling Isaac Newton, of course.

Jim

 

[SpiderWebComm]

But did.

No I didn't. You interpreted it that way.

But that doesn't mean I don't consider several members of the CTE group to be otherwise rational and intelligent beings either. (With only about six active neurons left, I'm not going to be too quick to cast aspersions). However, for some reason those members seem to have gone wacko (as in berserk) with regard to this rather small and, thankfully, innocuous topic.

Jim

And you don't think the members on the other side of the fence with Patrick heading it up haven't gone wacko (as in berserk) from 18 years of belittling this rather small and innocuous topic??

I think you overestimated. You're down to about 3 or 4 neurons.