Schmidt video release November
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I'm not sure what to make of the "private" viewing. Maybe I'm missing something.
Either way, I hope the video is made either ppv, one time purchase or as an advertising video by predator, techno dud, taom etc...etc...
At some point, I believe it will be released as a one-time purchase.
Jeff
Not 100% sure about that, bit I am sure I do love a good bachelor party.
Yes I am afraid that if this is a true statement from Mr Schmidt, then he has gone full paranoid. If he doesn’t release the video for free or at least available to own at a reasonable price then I think he will alienate every person that has watched his runs and paid attention to him during his quest for the record.
No one will move heaven and earth to see the video. They will just move on and curse johns name in an angry mutter whenever something reminds them of him. Some may even go full dh
Well, that makes absolutely no sense.
No one is going to pay him to come out to their pool room and have people sit through a video of a 600 ball run. So from a revenue generating point of view it's a non-starter.
So then you have ask: is he really that concerned (read paranoid) about pirating? Personally, I just don't see that a a valid concern. In the first place the run itself is of interest only to a very tiny sliver of the pool playing populace. IOWs, it wouldn't be worth the time and effort to copy and distribute it in the first place because the market is so small.
So then you have to ask yourself: is there another reason for controlling viewing of the run so tightly?
Lou Figueroa
No, I don't think you 'have to ask' anything further than if he really thinks the reward is money.
I’ll just watch one of my old John Schmidt’s DVD with his commentary a few times until I get to 626
Hopefully John can turn the viewing into giving seminars the following day to make some $$$.
I would love to see it/own it but won't travel more than say 50 miles and the price would need to be low enough to compensate. To own the DVD I'd pay up to $50. More than that is to much for me...
I would love to see it/own it but won't travel more than say 50 miles and the price would need to be low enough to compensate. To own the DVD I'd pay up to $50. More than that is to much for me...
This just got weird!
Just?! :shrug::thud::scratchhead:
Well i guess I'll never see it lol
I've chatted with him a little bit in the thread and via PM.
Yes, he's concerned with piracy, he figures as soon as one copy is out,
it's effectively all over the internet. I think he underestimates how many people will
pay for it out of honesty, laziness, or because the amount of money is too small to fuss over,
or due to lack of piracy savvy.
He has a minimum number in mind for the rights to the video,
and apparently it's over $10,000 because he's been offered that and turned it down (according to him).
I mentioned that this private showing thing is a drag, because it means I have to hope
he wants to travel 3000 miles so a pool hall within 3 hours drive, and then I get to watch
it exactly one time, on somebody else's schedule.
His reply was: "I'm sorry brother. the pool industry doesn't mind us pool players making minimum wage
so I have a chance to recoup the 10,000 I spent breaking record.
hopefully somebody just buys the rights and puts it out there"
Yes, he's concerned with piracy, he figures as soon as one copy is out,
it's effectively all over the internet. I think he underestimates how many people will
pay for it out of honesty, laziness, or because the amount of money is too small to fuss over,
or due to lack of piracy savvy.
He has a minimum number in mind for the rights to the video,
and apparently it's over $10,000 because he's been offered that and turned it down (according to him).
I mentioned that this private showing thing is a drag, because it means I have to hope
he wants to travel 3000 miles so a pool hall within 3 hours drive, and then I get to watch
it exactly one time, on somebody else's schedule.
His reply was: "I'm sorry brother. the pool industry doesn't mind us pool players making minimum wage
so I have a chance to recoup the 10,000 I spent breaking record.
hopefully somebody just buys the rights and puts it out there"
I like straight pool a lot and would love to see this video. I'd snatch up a set of DVDs or a BlueRay pretty fast for around $50, though a private viewing or pay-per-view doesn't sound at all appealing to me. I like the idea of supporting this accomplishment long as the price doesn't overreach.
Yep, once released digitally there'll be pirate copies floating around, no way I know of to avoid that. But, I think a little more trust in the integrity of straight pool players may surprise John in how many would be legitimately sold.
Would you buy one for $50? How many overall do you think would sell in a couple years? Only need to sell 200 @ $50 to get to $10,000, seems pretty doable to me
Yep, once released digitally there'll be pirate copies floating around, no way I know of to avoid that. But, I think a little more trust in the integrity of straight pool players may surprise John in how many would be legitimately sold.
Would you buy one for $50? How many overall do you think would sell in a couple years? Only need to sell 200 @ $50 to get to $10,000, seems pretty doable to me
john gives about the same impression here as i got from a recent interview with him, self-absorbed and slightly behind his time. cinemas are closing down for a reason. if he doesn't feel comfortable (or capable) in streaming it on demand, he should sell it to someone who has that competence.
i wonder how sought after he believes his four hour solo play is. because there are very few straight pool videos on youtube with high viewing numbers. the only one with high numbers is an efren reyes video. in fact most pool videos with high numbers are efren vids, so efren is clearly in demand - yet few of efren's PPV/dvd matches are pirated and floating around
i wonder how sought after he believes his four hour solo play is. because there are very few straight pool videos on youtube with high viewing numbers. the only one with high numbers is an efren reyes video. in fact most pool videos with high numbers are efren vids, so efren is clearly in demand - yet few of efren's PPV/dvd matches are pirated and floating around
ok, that clears up some questions. well, someone better buy the rights because this one man cinema business model won't yield him much monetary reward
That deserves to be highlighted. Its a fact that is far more telling than damn near anything else having to do with the matter.
Only change to your statement: increase the font size and bold it up.
To clear up a common misconception, Youtube is almost certainly not gonna pay him
what he's looking for.
The YT pay algorithm is complicated but if you're lucky, you can get $2000-$3000 per million views.
So John would need 3-5 mil. views to even get near his target.
Recent source: https://www.looxcie.com/million-views-youtube-money/
In the entire history of youtube, there are maybe 30 pool videos that cracked 3 million views.
Many of these aren't really relevant to serious (14.1) players... John's target audience.
There's trick shot videos with hot girls, footage from pool video games, a slow-mo photography video
that happens to have pool as the subject, some snooker highlight reels, unboxing of a toy table,
a cute pixar-style animated short with pool balls, a "look at Shanelle's tits" video, etc.
If John got 10x as many views as your example video, he'd make maybe $700.
I wonder if he’s getting “George rrrr Martin syndrome”
Where everyone only talks to you to find out when your next book or video is coming out so you start feeling assaulted from all sides and like a weenis in winter you retreat inward. Then you start with the “cut off your nose to spite your face” behavior and before you know it everyone is gone and you’re holding back something from no one. I do wonder. But I hope not.
It's not just the raw run itself, which would be likely to become one of the most viewed pool videos on YouTube. It's also the possibility for follow-on content based on the original video.
we've discussed this before though and no need to rehash it. If he isn't confident of the video breaking streaming records then it's a logical decision. I disagree and think there is real potential to make money now and into the long term. Reasonable people can take both sides of that one.
The $50 DVD would certainly make him some money but he seems too scared of piracy to even bank the few thousand that might get. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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