scrimshaw

what do you think of scrimshaw


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Adds if done well, detracts if its not.

Most of the cues you see with scrimshaw its going to add some value unless its the owners face.

Or its owned by zeeder, in which case its worthless and should be given to me to be destroyed. PM zeeder for the address :)
 
I think it adds to the value, if tastefully done of course. It doesn't have to be by a famous artist or the cuemaker. I really like scrimshaw work, just can't afford it :( .

Jim
 
jhendri2 said:
I think it adds to the value, if tastefully done of course. It doesn't have to be by a famous artist or the cuemaker. I really like scrimshaw work, just can't afford it :( .

Jim
you can get scrimshaw done rather inexpensivly $100 and up
 
IMO, the cuemaker does not have to do the scrim work. The composition cue in its entirety is a must though. The scrim should be taken as a part on the cue that will enhance the whole "compostion." If the cuemaker does a poor scrim work... that's not good also. Then he'll have to defend why he did a poor job. It can be simple lines or shapes... doesn't matter so long as it is justified. ;)
 
I used to think the Scrim work on my upcoming cue would add to the value! :confused: :confused: But from what Cubswin said it makes it worthless since I own it.

Cubswin, I think I'll go ahead and hold onto it for sentimental value even though it's worthless! :D :D
 
zeeder said:
I used to think the Scrim work on my upcoming cue would add to the value! :confused: :confused: But from what Cubswin said it makes it worthless since I own it.

Cubswin, I think I'll go ahead and hold onto it for sentimental value even though it's worthless! :D :D

No No I'll take care of it, I tell you what I'll go ahead and pay the shipping out of the goodness of my heart. Wouldn't want such a good contributer to this forum to have to deal with such a depressing ordeal.
 
I'm sure it adds value. I think it can be overdone, though. The "Medical Cue" by Bill Schick has an awful lot of scrimshaw work, but it works...because that's the theme of that cue. Plus it was done by Bill Schick...I'm not sure he even knows how to make an ugly cue.

I think you also have to make the distinction between scrimshaw and engraving. Scrimshaw is freehanded artwork...engraving is usually done with a pantograph from a line drawing.
 
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zeeder said:
I used to think the Scrim work on my upcoming cue would add to the value! :confused: :confused: But from what Cubswin said it makes it worthless since I own it.

Cubswin, I think I'll go ahead and hold onto it for sentimental value even though it's worthless! :D :D

We all know you are an addict .... lol ...... There is a shopper's anonymous ...
 
Snapshot9 said:
We all know you are an addict .... lol ...... There is a shopper's anonymous ...

Yes, I am indeed an addict! I'm starting a local chapter of CBA (Cue Buyers Anonymous) if anyone wants to join!
 
cubswin said:
No No I'll take care of it, I tell you what I'll go ahead and pay the shipping out of the goodness of my heart. Wouldn't want such a good contributer to this forum to have to deal with such a depressing ordeal.

Okay, I appreciate this so much I'll even help you pay the shipping. Shipping would normally be $5,000 but I'll pay 40% of it so you only have to pay $3,000. I'll PM you my paypal info!
 
cornerstone said:
do you think scrimshaw add to the value of a cue ?

i would think it adds value, but most of what people see and call scrimshaw in a cue is really engraving so i would have to use a value scale.

for instance how could you give the same value for alot of engraving from a c.n.c.? compared to srcim done by hand? or even done by the cuemaker?

what if you compare the same engraving but one done c.n.c. and one done panto.?
 
If scrimshaw didn't add value to cues, Bill Schick's cues would be affordable.lol
He does the scrim himself and his cues are so valuable b/c of it.
 
zeeder said:
Okay, I appreciate this so much I'll even help you pay the shipping. Shipping would normally be $5,000 but I'll pay 40% of it so you only have to pay $3,000. I'll PM you my paypal info!

I talked to DHL and USP and I can do much better on the shipping so I'll just go ahead and front the whole amount. I will donate a full size photo of the cue for the wall of the cba meeting room as well.
 
yes

merylane said:
i would think it adds value, but most of what people see and call scrimshaw in a cue is really engraving so i would have to use a value scale.

for instance how could you give the same value for alot of engraving from a c.n.c.? compared to srcim done by hand? or even done by the cuemaker?

what if you compare the same engraving but one done c.n.c. and one done panto.?
Iam talking about scrimchaw like on some motteys and richard blacks freedom cue and drexlers hustler cue! :)
 
cornerstone said:
Iam talking about scrimchaw like on some motteys and richard blacks freedom cue and drexlers hustler cue! :)

yes but most people dont know the difference.
 
cubswin said:
I talked to DHL and USP and I can do much better on the shipping so I'll just go ahead and front the whole amount. I will donate a full size photo of the cue for the wall of the cba meeting room as well.

Unfortunately, I must insist on my own shipping comany: ZPS (Zeeder Parcel Service). I just don't trust anyone else, even though the cue would only be shipped to be destroyed...lol.
 
Hey Shorty

Hey Shorty, I was just wondering why you thought scrim work takes away from the value. Is it specific types of scrim or just scrim in general that turns you off?!
 
GeraldG said:
I'm sure it adds value. I think it can be overdone, though. The "Medical Cue" by Bill Schick has an awful lot of scrimshaw work, but it works...because that's the theme of that cue. Plus it was done by Bill Schick...I'm not sure he even knows how to make an ugly cue.

I believe that if the work is done by the cuemaker it adds to the value and it makes it more of a work of CUE art, when they farm it out to Mrs. Brady I think it's a bit of a rip off just to try and increase the cost of the cue. It's like if you made a plain jane and had someone paint on the cue like those McDermott POS's To me the fact that the cuemaker does the work himself (or in his shop) really adds to the value. I think it shows some real skill when Edwin or Mr. Schick does that type of work.

I think you also have to make the distinction between scrimshaw and engraving. Scrimshaw is freehanded artwork...engraving is usually done with a pantograph from a line drawing.

This is not always true, Bill Schick learned the art of engraving from one of the WORLD's top engravers, people with this skill do it free hand and are so perfect that you would think it was done by a computer or a machine. The distinction is Scrimshaw is done with a pin or blade and scratches or holes are made then filled in with ink, engraving is a carved line with a knife/blade. Scrim is normally pictures while engraving is a design.

Jim
 
JimBo said:
This is not always true, Bill Schick learned the art of engraving from one of the WORLD's top engravers, people with this skill do it free hand and are so perfect that you would think it was done by a computer or a machine. The distinction is Scrimshaw is done with a pin or blade and scratches or holes are made then filled in with ink, engraving is a carved line with a knife/blade. Scrim is normally pictures while engraving is a design.

Jim
Very informative post, Jimbo! Thanks.
 
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