cubswin said:
I care what everyone thinks cubby.. Tell you what, had he not stepped on the mine earlier, no one would be here...
JV (--thanks..
Selling misconceptions... or do you believe the hype
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I care what everyone thinks cubby.. Tell you what, had he not stepped on the mine earlier, no one would be here...
JV (--thanks..
dave sutton
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classiccues said:
hey dont u have a scruggs to steal for 1/5th the value???
what an idoit
dave sutton
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cubswin said:
burn!!!!!!
dave sutton
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and once again joe looking like an idoit!!!
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=62227&page=2
after posting this joe ran away and had nothing to say
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=62227&page=2
after posting this joe ran away and had nothing to say
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dave sutton said:hey dont u have a scruggs to steal for 1/5th the value???
what an idoit
Maybe... but an offer is an offer...
You on the other hand are an ADMITTED thief...
JV (---big difference
Dave, I respectfully disagree with you on this one. Although using tan chalk to test hit a cue should not take away the "new cue'' description, nothing is newer than ''unplayed/unchalked''. Example; I have a Schick sneaky pete that is "new/unplayed/unchalked, never hit a ball''. I know that's true because I'm the original owner. If it were played with, even a little bit, I don't think it would be as rare and valuable as it is now. JMO. If I let a perspective buyer try it out and they didn't buy it, the cue would lose some of its value, IMO.dave sutton said:
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X Breaker said:
That's a good one.
I also really like "only played a few racks with it." Apparently "a few racks" can be about two months worth of 20 hours a week.
Another good one is "near mint for its age", along with some fuzzy pics. Hell, I'M near mint for my age.
I see where you are coming from. I love most of the cues I get, as well. But since I have too many, almost always one has to go if one comes in. If I'm always buying smart, and for the most part only getting cues I like, that means the one that has to go is frequently one I loved and hyped on a forum. For instance, I just sold three cues that I absolutely love - hated letting go of any of them. But the three that had arrived in the months just prior made it a bit less painful.
Now I have two "monster" cues arriving today
What will have to go? 
To satisfy my need to 'hype' an incoming cue that I love and might sell in a few months, instead I will just send pics to Jazz.
(I really wish I had the self-control to buy one cue and keep it for ten years without ever buying another, but that's not happening.)
Now I have two "monster" cues arriving today
What will have to go? To satisfy my need to 'hype' an incoming cue that I love and might sell in a few months, instead I will just send pics to Jazz.
(I really wish I had the self-control to buy one cue and keep it for ten years without ever buying another, but that's not happening.)
8-ball Rat said:Yeah!!! What's with those people??!!??
I admit it...I'm part of the FFC (Frequent Flipper's Club). For the most part, I do exactly what Jazz just mentioned.
I am a HUGE cue fan (for those that may not know), and have been extremely pleased with most of my purchases...but I've also been selective on what I buy to begin with. I'm fortunate that when I do "hype" one up when I sell it, the guy/girl that buys the cue from me will agree with my assessment, as I am accurate with my postings.
It's another matter, altogether, when the cue doesn't quite match up to what is initially described....or is so completely over-inflated that I make it out to be that God made the cue personally.
Gotta go.....FFC meeting starts in 5 minutes!!!
Precisely, Scott.runscott said:I see where you are coming from. I love most of the cues I get, as well. But since I have too many, almost always one has to go if one comes in. If I'm always buying smart, and for the most part only getting cues I like, that means the one that has to go is frequently one I loved and hyped on a forum. For instance, I just sold three cues that I absolutely love - hated letting go of any of them. But the three that had arrived in the months just prior made it a bit less painful.
Now I have two "monster" cues arriving today
To satisfy my need to 'hype' an incoming cue that I love and might sell in a few months, instead I will just send pics to Jazz.
(I really wish I had the self-control to buy one cue and keep it for ten years without ever buying another, but that's not happening.)
While I do a pretty healthy share of buying...I AM limited on funds. Much like you said, if I get a new one, I have to unload another to make things even out, money wise.
And I....again, like you....will doubtfully EVER have enough control to keep one or two nice cues, and call it a day. I've tried....and we all see how that turned out!!
There is enough business out there for everyone, Nobody is going to buy a cue from because of any statmants on this thread-infact the oppsite might happen then the quite guy gets the deals. I'm not going to pick sides. Any arguing between people in the same business is a waste of everyones time, and discredits all parties. There shouldnt be any bad blood on the internet or privatly, everyone would be better off if they all worked together they would all do better in the long run. the old hold your enimys close concept.
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Joe,
I'm curious about what the owner of Classiccues thinks about you using his business's name as your ID, but while doing so taking pot shots at others (i.e. the competition). Doesn't seem very professional, regardless of what the back stories are. I could be misinterpreting things, but on the website it says that all of the cues are offered by Mark K. so that leads me to believe it is "his" business? After reading all of this it just got me thinking.
I'm curious about what the owner of Classiccues thinks about you using his business's name as your ID, but while doing so taking pot shots at others (i.e. the competition). Doesn't seem very professional, regardless of what the back stories are. I could be misinterpreting things, but on the website it says that all of the cues are offered by Mark K. so that leads me to believe it is "his" business? After reading all of this it just got me thinking.
dave sutton said:
DAVE, I STILL HAVE TO DISAGREE.....UNCHALKED IS UNCHALKED. ONCE A CUE IS CHALKED AND TEST HIT, IT IS NO LONGER 100%. IN A COLLECTIBLES MARKET SOMETHING THAT IS 100% WILL ALWAYS BE MORE DESIREABLE THAN THE SAME THING AT 98%. I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE TOLD THAT A CUE WAS NEW, TO GET IT IN THE MAIL AND FIND OUT IT WAS TEST HIT. I PAY MORE FOR UNUSED CUES. TEST HIT CUES STILL BRING A NEAR PREMIUM PRICE, BUT NOT WHAT NEW/UNCHALKED BRINGS.
I have a question for ya, Marcus. You being the big-pappa of Tascarella cues and all...you could give me a no-kidding response.FAST_N_LOOSE said:
Does Pete ever test hit his cues before they leave his shop? Don't most cuemakers do this, to verify that all is well and right with the cue, before the customer gets it? Do they hit with 'em, but avoid chalk and only use center-ball? If they chalk it to take the cue for a few spins, can't they sand down the tip to ensure it LOOKS new, and qualify as such?
If not, then yes...the cue is new, unchalked, never hit a ball.
If so, then EVERY cue that leaves that shop is already used, by your definition.
Just curious as to whether or not the cuemaker's shots count toward the condition of the cue...in YOUR eyes. Hell....I don't even know if Mr. Tascarella plays pool at all!!
Thanks for any insight you can provide me.
dave sutton
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Charlie Edwards said:
i never said unchalked. that word can only mean one thing. i was commenting on the used portion. i dont think i said unchalked anywhere in that statement.
plus i have hit balls with no chalk just center ball to feel firmness.
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dave sutton
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classiccues said:
how am i an admitted theif??? ive already made u look bad enough for one day i guess u want more
dave sutton
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Matt_24 said:
very good statemnt. joe deff had hurt marks buieness for him. joe is obv a nobody riding the coat tales of a somebody (mark) thays why he posts the way he does and treats ppl the wasy he does to make himself appear BIG.
maybe someone should place a call to mark and point him to these threads. maye i will and tell him how much buisness joe has already lost for him
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8-ball Rat said:
OK, NOW WE'RE TRYING TO SPIN THE SITUATION, WHICH IS FINE WITH ME. YES, MANY CUEMAKERS TEST HIT CUES BEFORE THEY LEAVE THE SHOP. MOST DO NOT CHALK, AND JUST USE CENTER BALL TO BE SURE THERE ARE NO ISSUES WITH THE CUE. TO BE HONEST, IF THE CUEMAKER CHALKED THE CUE, TEST HIT IT , AND THEN SENT IT OUT, IT WOULDN'T BE NEW IN MY EYES. I ALSO KNOW THAT SOME CUEMAKERS HAVE A FEW INTERCHANGEABLE SHAFTS IN THE SHOP TO USE TO TO HIT CUES.
P.S. PETE SR AND JR ARE BOTH VERY GOOD PLAYERS. I'VE HEARD MANY STORIES OF SR RUNNING 100+ BALLS IN TOURNAMENTS.
Cool. Thanks.FAST_N_LOOSE said:
Didn't intend to "spin" the subject....I thought it was a legit question, considering all the varying opinions.
The way I see it....a cuemaker's "hits" don't really count...if those are the only hits on the cue when it's shipped out to the new owner. They built the thing, and it's necessary for them to make sure it measures up. Besides, I've never heard of a custom order coming to the original buyer with chalk on the tips. Bad for biz, I would imagine.
Thanks for the reply, Marcus. Sorry if you misunderstood where I was going with this. Maybe I shoulda worded it better??
Also heard that as a detective he was a pretty good shot (grew up in Brooklyn, NY and that is what I heard).FAST_N_LOOSE said:
So not sure if I want to run into him in a pool hall or an alley.
The best bet is that he will either run the rack or I run the rack out of town...
Myron
8-ball Rat said:
MARK, I'M TIRED AND HUNGOVER, SO I WAS BEING DEFENSIVE......THERE ARE JUST TOO MANY PEOPLE THAT TRY TO PLAY DEVILS ADVOCATE, WHEN SOMEONE MAKES A GOOD POST.
I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GET PICKED APART BASED ON MY STATEMENT. WHAT A CUEMAKER DOES BEFORE THE CUE LEAVES THE SHOP, DOES NOT IN MY OPINION EFFECT THE RATING OF THE CUE. SO WE AGREE ON THIS.
I SEE CUES MISREPRESENTED ALL THE TIME, AND IT REALLY BOTHERS ME. IF THERE WAS WORK DONE TO A CUE, IT SHOULD BE DISCLOSED. IT SHOULD ALSO BE DISCLOSED WHO DID THE WORK. I HAVE ALREADY PASSED ON SEVERAL CUES, FROM SEVERAL DEALERS, BECAUSE OF WHO/WHAT WORK HAD BEEN DONE.
HOW'S THIS SITUATION, THE ORIGINAL OWNER OF A CUE HAS IT MADE WITH THREE SHAFTS.....USES THE CUE WITH 1 OF THEM, BEATS THE CRAP OUT OF THE CUE, SENDS THE BUTT TO GET REFINISHED, AND THEN SELLS THE CUE AS NEW WITH THE 2 UNPLAYED SHAFTS!!!!!!!!!!! THIS ISN'T JUST HYPOTHETICAL EITHER, I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN SEVERAL TIMES. I HAVE BECOME VERY CAUTIOUS WITH WHO I BUY FROM. IT HAS BECOME VERY IMPORTANT THE LAST FEW YEARS TO HAVE ALOT OF FRIENDS IN THE BUSINESS, SO THAT YOU ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE BUYING.