MR FB comment section.... someone mentioned a video comparing shaft rebound differences using this method.
Shaf Drop Bouncing
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In the sixties, they always talked about Balabuskas having the best shaft grains.
Gave a better feel, but thx for peekin at videos.
Gave a better feel, but thx for peekin at videos.
That whole FB post was stupid. The OP on FB didn't link the video. Everyone was guessing wtf he was talking about. OP on FB claimed he saw a video by Meucci of bouncing the shaft to determine cueball deflection (squirt). Now, we are doing the same here (guessing).
Jedco
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I remember that video, Bob had a test rig with a funny name, the mythbuster, or something like that.
Here's a video about it posted by Bob Jewett in the past - don't know if it's the one you're talking about...
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lots of builders back then used dense, old-growth maple for shafts. they were also heavy, used ivory ferrules and deflected a ton. i love my Jensen's dense/heavy ivy. ferruled shafts but i prefer using something with less defl.
Thx, but this video was shaft & butt.
Jedco
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I meant Bob Meucci, but that's a good Bob, too!
doesn't matter. the 'springier' the shaft the more the cue/shaft is going to rebound. Has nothing to do with how good the wood is. bottom line is this test has nothing to do with how a cue is going to play. never seen one good cuemaker bounce a cue like this for any reason.
Cool!!! Vintage snake oil.....the more things change the more they stay the same
I've dropped assembled cues on their tips to check for straightness. Since the 90s. One store manager actually said, "We do not drop cues on their tips." I replied emphatically, "I do." He went away and I continued checking. Most were typically warped. Bought the straightest one just to prove a point.
how do you fare in a china shop?
Can't afford those Ming Dynasty cues anyway.
Paul_#_
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If you are seeking video of just the shaft bouncing (and not post#7 video of shaft & butt), find that on YouTube at links at end of this post.
One of the YouTube videos is more of a lark but both show McDermott's Defy shaft differing from others in it not bouncing off a pool table. This helps explain McDermott's and players claim that Defy has a softer hit and different sound than other carbon fiber shafts (Revo). See AZers' comment below and at https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/defy-shaft-and-a-little-science-question.546306/
McDermott lauds Defy's shock absorbing powers (from a Seybert's description):
The Defy Shaft is equipped with the new SmacWrap technology previously designed for the aerospace industry. SmartWrap technology consumes vibration and softens the noise resulting in a confident, clean hit with excellent player feel and quiet sound.
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Thx for the videos.
Not hard to find posts about me using the ping test to select shaft blanks when I created shafts. Far from snake oil or hocus pocus I never had anyone bring back a shaft that passed the ping test, normally with twelve growth rings or more. I got excellent shafts for myself using at least eight growth ring shafts with nice even spacing that passed the ping test.
My personal ping test involved dropping a shaft blank end first on my shop floor. My floor was one and one eighth or a bit thicker subflooring on top of floor joists twelve inches on center on top of many concrete half blocks.
Any shaft that gave a nice bounce and most importantly bounced up exactly vertical as judged by my eyeballing it passed the ping test. I would rather have a shaft with twelve growth rings that passed the ping test than one with twenty growth rings that didn't pass the ping test.
Wen I needed a shaft for my Meucci many years ago I went to a huge old department store that had many Dufferin pool cues, maybe forty. I selected three or four that had growth rings that suited me and passed the ping test. A salesman in a three piece suit was closely watching me when I was ping testing the shafts. By the time he came over close enough to talk to I had selected a shaft. $39.95 for an excellent shaft, excellent butt too for that matter.
Might have been a golf commercial, "It don't mean a thing if it hasn't got the ping!"
Hu
My personal ping test involved dropping a shaft blank end first on my shop floor. My floor was one and one eighth or a bit thicker subflooring on top of floor joists twelve inches on center on top of many concrete half blocks.
Any shaft that gave a nice bounce and most importantly bounced up exactly vertical as judged by my eyeballing it passed the ping test. I would rather have a shaft with twelve growth rings that passed the ping test than one with twenty growth rings that didn't pass the ping test.
Wen I needed a shaft for my Meucci many years ago I went to a huge old department store that had many Dufferin pool cues, maybe forty. I selected three or four that had growth rings that suited me and passed the ping test. A salesman in a three piece suit was closely watching me when I was ping testing the shafts. By the time he came over close enough to talk to I had selected a shaft. $39.95 for an excellent shaft, excellent butt too for that matter.
Might have been a golf commercial, "It don't mean a thing if it hasn't got the ping!"
Hu
Be neat to bring your handle to a ping test area, where you can try ten or so different shafts to find one that hits right.
There's ZERO data to back up a claim that a denser/pingier shaft actually plays any better. What HAS been proven is that denser/heavier shafts deflect like hell. If you like a 'pingier' shaft that's cool but to say it does something that a less 'pingy' can't is debatable to say the least.