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Andrew Manning

Andrew Manning

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I just made it up to SL7 in my big-table APA 8ball league. I'm pretty happy about it. It's always been my goal since joining the league to get to the top handicap level.

Now I get more challenging races to look forward to, which I feel will help me improve my mental toughness. For my first match as a 7, I played another 7 last night and won 5-0. I was pretty happy about that, too. I got a couple rolls (actually, he got a couple bad rolls), but I still thought beating a 7 5-0 isn't bad.

Just wanted to share.

-Andrew
 
Congrats! As someone who bounces between SL6 & 7, it sounds like you stepped up your game in consistency and intensity. Good goin'.
 
Congrats!! It's nice to hear someone that's excited about getting better.

When my league op first told me I went to a 7, I was excited as hell. He said he was surprised by my reaction because most people don't want to go up.

Great Job and keep hitting 'em good!!
 
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Wednesday - Season 2 2007/2008

Week # 15
Most Valuable Player (Average) playing at least 5 out of 15 weeks Date: Nov 16, 2007
Rank ID# Name ID# Team Weeks Points Won Lost % Avg Hcp
1 2419 Vic Bagley 7 MFShooters 7 318 29 6 82.86 9.086 9
2 735 John Lokuta 1 It Happens 8 359 28 12 70 8.975 9
 
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Congratulations SIR,

Now let the races and dumping begin. You pretty much are locked into playing 2's and 3's now. Nothing like a 7-2 race when the 2 you are playing can make a 3-5 ball out and never gets moved up. But it is an accomplishment to get there. Good JOB!
 
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PROG8R said:
Congratulations SIR,

Now let the races and dumping begin. You pretty much are locked into playing 2's and 3's now. Nothing like a 7-2 race when the 2 you are playing can make a 3-5 ball out and never gets moved up. But it is an accomplishment to get there. Good JOB!
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Also, there's nothing like playing APA nine-ball as an 8, and playing a 4 that doesn't give you a shot for the first 3-racks. Or giving 10-points to a guy that could spot me the 7-ball in a money game. At least in 8-ball you have to win the game. In nine-ball you only get 2-points for the win, so you can win the games and lose the match.

APA tells you not to try and figure out their ranking system. On thing for sure, is that in certain areas, an APA-7 in 8-ball is usually an excellent player. For Andrew to beat another 7 5-0 is quite an accomplishment.
 
I do wonder, related to what a few poster have pointed out, how a certain skill level in my area would compare to other areas on average. Does anyone from the Northern VA area have a good idea of whether it's especially easy or especially difficult to be a 7 here as opposed to other areas?

I'm guessing if either uwate or voodoo daddy are reading this thread, they're probably scratching their heads in wonder that I could possibly be a 7 after playing 9-ball at such an exceedingly low level in Miami a couple months ago. I guess maybe now they'll know that I'm not usually nearly that bad. Or that Northern VA is full of terrible 8-ball players.

-Andrew
 
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I do not know about everyone else's area, but ours has too many 7s. Not that they all don't play great, but some should be higher.

Birmingham, AL has 33 7s in 8 ball but on 6 players ranked 8 or higher in 9 ball. This is an unfair disparity. There are some APA 7s in 8ball that really can't be beaten (the game can be outran, but they are supposed to win). It seams unfair that the players who are not maxed in 9ball are supposed to compete with those who are in 8ball.
 
Andrew Manning said:
I do wonder, related to what a few poster have pointed out, how a certain skill level in my area would compare to other areas on average. Does anyone from the Northern VA area have a good idea of whether it's especially easy or especially difficult to be a 7 here as opposed to other areas?

I'm guessing if either uwate or voodoo daddy are reading this thread, they're probably scratching their heads in wonder that I could possibly be a 7 after playing 9-ball at such an exceedingly low level in Miami a couple months ago. I guess maybe now they'll know that I'm not usually nearly that bad. Or that Northern VA is full of terrible 8-ball players.

-Andrew
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Andrew,

We've played a bit at Fast Eddies; perhaps you remember.

I've played some other 7s here in NoVa and I'd hazard a guess that there are very different levels of 7s.

Let's just say that out in Chicago I know some APA 6's who should be freakin' pros.

I know one player in Chicago who I'm told is an APA 5 who goes to 9-1 in Chris's (Chicago) handicapped 9 ball tournaments.

Congratulations on your elite status.

Just don't let Dexter (I know more than one) from Chicago get you in an 8 ball match. I think he goes to 4, and can easily break and run a table of 9 footer 8 ball...

Flex
 
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Flex said:
Andrew,

We've played a bit at Fast Eddies; perhaps you remember.

I've played some other 7s here in NoVa and I'd hazard a guess that there are very different levels of 7s.

Let's just say that out in Chicago I know some APA 6's who should be freakin' pros.

I know one player in Chicago who I'm told is an APA 5 who goes to 9-1 in Chris's (Chicago) handicapped 9 ball tournaments.

Congratulations on your elite status.

Just don't let Dexter (I know more than one) from Chicago get you in an 8 ball match. I think he goes to 4, and can easily break and run a table of 9 footer 8 ball...

Flex
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Of course I remember, Flex.

I definitely agree there are very different levels of 7's. National 8-ball Champion James Henson and I are both 7's in the same geographical area, but there's where the similarities end :D Brandon Shuff's a 7 on an APA team in this area, too.

What I wonder, is how the low end of the wide range of 7s compares from here to somewhere else, since the high end of that range is unbounded. I would assume that Manhattan, or Chicago, or LA, would probably be more difficult places to become a 7, than the greater DC metro area. But I wonder if there are areas where I, playing all-out, would only be a 5?

-Andrew
 
Andrew Manning said:
Of course I remember, Flex.

I definitely agree there are very different levels of 7's. National 8-ball Champion James Henson and I are both 7's in the same geographical area, but there's where the similarities end :D Brandon Shuff's a 7 on an APA team in this area, too.

What I wonder, is how the low end of the wide range of 7s compares from here to somewhere else, since the high end of that range is unbounded. I would assume that Manhattan, or Chicago, or LA, would probably be more difficult places to become a 7, than the greater DC metro area. But I wonder if there are areas where I, playing all-out, would only be a 5?

-Andrew
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If you were to play in Chicago, I'd try to stay under 5 speed if I were you.

There's a fellow I know in Chicago who just started playing APA 8 ball, and they have him as a 3. It's just ridiculous. If he were to play Brandon Shuff as a 3, I think he'd take Brandon without much trouble.
 
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PROG8R said:
Congratulations SIR,

Now let the races and dumping begin. You pretty much are locked into playing 2's and 3's now. Nothing like a 7-2 race when the 2 you are playing can make a 3-5 ball out and never gets moved up. But it is an accomplishment to get there. Good JOB!
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someone sounds a little bitter, all league operators do not run their divisions the same. Your enjoyment level is much higher when you have a diligent LO Here in Atlanta Woody runs a pretty fair ship! if there is a problem he or one of his staff (who tend to frequent many league nights!) will handle it quickly !

Of course you are definitely bound to be matched against many 2 and 3 handicaps but if they are true SL's then its still a challenge at times to beat them since one slip up So8 etcetera will tend to make it a tough night :D
 
Flex said:
Andrew,

We've played a bit at Fast Eddies; perhaps you remember.

I've played some other 7s here in NoVa and I'd hazard a guess that there are very different levels of 7s.

Let's just say that out in Chicago I know some APA 6's who should be freakin' pros.

I know one player in Chicago who I'm told is an APA 5 who goes to 9-1 in Chris's (Chicago) handicapped 9 ball tournaments.

Congratulations on your elite status.

Just don't let Dexter (I know more than one) from Chicago get you in an 8 ball match. I think he goes to 4, and can easily break and run a table of 9 footer 8 ball...

Flex
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Flex, wait 'till I tell Dexter you're knocking his action.
 
philw said:
Flex, wait 'till I tell Dexter you're knocking his action.
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Which Dexter? I know at least three of them, and their skill level varies widely. :D

Upon drawing a Dexter in a match, the question will then be, is he the ringer?? Or is it that other one? And I heard there's another somewhere... Sheesh...

Then another mind game will kick in... What's with these Chicago players??

Flex
 
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