Shane from 2000-2007/2008

I live in Minnesota and first started seeing SVB around 2004-2005. The IPT was kicking off and all the good players were busting out their 8 ball game. SVB came to MN to play some big table 8 ball with Jimmy Wetch. We all thought Jimmy would have the best of it as 8 ball is one of his better games, but SVB continued to get the job done.

Then in October 2005, just before the US Open, Lee Heuwagen played him a few sets. Lee won two, lost one, then quit up a set. He said his eyes were bothering him. SVB went on to take 25th that year.

My impression was the level SVB was playing at in the 04-05 range was strong, but it wasn't dominant. I didn't get the feel that he ran around playing at that level for years and stealing from everyone. I got the feel that he got to be a very strong up and comer, spent a year or two showing serious promise, then something clicked in his mind and suddenly the game was completely solved. Almost like that year or two on the road not only made him a better player, it allowed him to SEE he was the better player than the competition. One night in SD he must have stared at the ceiling and realized that he could beat everyone, and had a vision of how it could look. Then in 2006 he executed the plan.

To this day the match with Corey is one of the most legendary moments in pool. The moment a king took his reign. I still get shudders watching that match. Right around then he won the world 10 ball, then the US Opens started falling. At first it was just "he's running good" or "he has a great break", and maybe at first that might have some truth to it. His post break game wasn't at the level of Alex's or some of the other top players. But he DID break at another level, right during a time when 10 ball was the main game. And he did have confidence and determination. And then right around the time everyone was waiting for his reign to end, he elevated the rest of his game and his kicking, defense, and game management shot to the top. Popping off one pocket tournaments even. And by the time he'd won the fourth or fifth open pretty much everyone in the world got it (except for a few people that think he's not in the conversation because he lost a finals match in the world championship).

Well, the rest is history and you guys know all of this, I just think it's such a story I got a little carried away retelling it!

Great analysis Tin! Only a good player like yourself would understand what goes on in the mind of another strong player. Buddy Hall once told me, when talking about how he aims, that he figured it out one night while laying in bed. The next day he incorporated it into his game and he went up a speed (as if he needed it).

I think in all individual sports something "clicks" in the head of the very best players when they realize they can do this maybe a little better than anyone else can. That little burst in confidence can make all the difference in the world. I do know that players like Shane and Dennis O. truly believe that no one can beat them, even if they lose a match to someone!
 
A few years ago at the DCC maybe 2009ish right after they moved to the current venue I walked into one if the upstairs rooms and saw a bunch of people crowded around. When I got closer I saw it was SVB gambling with Scooter and the game was pretty outrageous. Please forgive me if I'm getting some of the details wrong, but I believe they were playing an ahead set of 9 ball with Scooter getting all the breaks, the 5 out and all of Scooter's money balls counted on the break. I'm not sure how long they played, but I stayed around long enough to watch SVB take it down and I wasn't there that long.

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Thanks for the replies. Has to be many more stories out there. Keep them coming please. Shane is by far my favorite player to watch. When he’s dialed in and stringing 10 ball racks he looks super-human.

It’s amazing him getting offered the call 8 by Corey Deuel around 2006 and last year he spotted Corey the 5,6 and beat him. His high gear is unreal.

Thanks for the replies.

It is impressive indeed. However, giving up the 5 or 6 ball isn’t such a huge deal if it is winner break. If Shane gets that break going you don’t get to the table to shoot any ball so getting such a spot becomes almost irrelevant
 
A few years ago at the DCC maybe 2009ish right after they moved to the current venue I walked into one if the upstairs rooms and saw a bunch of people crowded around. When I got closer I saw it was SVB gambling with Scooter and the game was pretty outrageous. Please forgive me if I'm getting some of the details wrong, but I believe they were playing an ahead set of 9 ball with Scooter getting all the breaks, the 5 out and all of Scooter's money balls counted on the break. I'm not sure how long they played, but I stayed around long enough to watch SVB take it down and I wasn't there that long.

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You got it pretty much correct. As Ronnie Allen once said, "You win the most money when you give up the nuts!"
 
A few years ago at the DCC maybe 2009ish right after they moved to the current venue I walked into one if the upstairs rooms and saw a bunch of people crowded around. When I got closer I saw it was SVB gambling with Scooter and the game was pretty outrageous. Please forgive me if I'm getting some of the details wrong, but I believe they were playing an ahead set of 9 ball with Scooter getting all the breaks, the 5 out and all of Scooter's money balls counted on the break. I'm not sure how long they played, but I stayed around long enough to watch SVB take it down and I wasn't there that long.

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I think I saw part of that match too.. Shane definitely played awesome, but at the end of the day, whenever Scooter is playing for big dollars, you REALLY have to look at who is putting up the money, or any significant portion of the money. One year he got the breaks and ball in hand from Shane and lost. Considering I've heard he actually plays better than Tedder, and Tedder bets on beating the ghost with ball-in-hand, I smell something rotten in Denmark.

And that's all I've got to say about THAT.

Short Bus Russ
 
I think I saw part of that match too.. Shane definitely played awesome, but at the end of the day, whenever Scooter is playing for big dollars, you REALLY have to look at who is putting up the money, or any significant portion of the money. One year he got the breaks and ball in hand from Shane and lost. Considering I've heard he actually plays better than Tedder, and Tedder bets on beating the ghost with ball-in-hand, I smell something rotten in Denmark.

And that's all I've got to say about THAT.

Short Bus Russ

You are in Germany and smell something rotten in Denmark?
I guess a little haze from the forest fires in Canada ain't so bad:grin-square:
 
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