i agree, the big tournaments are what matters. been a while for shane since he pulled one off.
Shane losing his #1 Fargo spot
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i agree, the big tournaments are what matters. been a while for shane since he pulled one off.
I'm not defending the WPA rankings. But WPA is the governing body for our sport and inclusion as a WPA ranking event is what gives calendar protection to an event.
We can argue about where the "major" line should be placed and get nowhere. Earlier you said something about "internationally diverse, elite field, that had at least half a dozen of the world's top 20 players." Event 1 of the 2022 Pro Billiard Series (Arizona Open last month) had 8 of the top 20 on the FargoRate world list. Shane would have been the 9th if he showed up. Mosconi players Styer and Reinhold played but don't even make the chart below because they are further to the right.
The Arizona event was full and paid $25K to the winner. Event 2 this week with a similar field is also full and will also pay $25K to win. I include this comparison to Turning Stone field not because anybody has claimed it is a major event but rather just for context because it is familiar.
Agreed about Arizona. My bad. As it was just a few days before Derby City, many of the elite came to the US a few days early so they could play in both.
Very surprised, but very pleased to learn, that most the elite players who attended the Arizona Open, many of whom just went to their first Derby, have remained in the United States for the next event in that series.
The top Europeans (those presently in the Top 20 based on Fargo are Filler, Gorst, Shaw, Kaci, Ouschan, Feijen, Kazakis, Szewczyk, Zielinski, and He) make up 10 of the Top 20. If they start showing up to this event series, it will become very elite, and I'm sure it would please both of us if it happens. I'm guessing we'll only get about three of them, but on this occasion, I'd be delighted to be wrong.
Anytime one of these ten ball events "piggybanks" an event that carries Matchroom ranking points, there's reason for optimism as far as producing an elite, internationally diverse field. Guess we'll see how it develops.
Thanks, Mike.
Think Shane is effected personall by dollar won then Fargo Rating. Bfd
Overal I don't think you're wrong at all. However, once more, if your sponsor that's providing you guarenteed money wants you to use a specific piece of their equipment then that's what you're going to do. At least if you think the money they're offering is of more value than potential winnings.
If your sponsor is more concerned about product placement than fargo rate, then a ever so slightly heavier losing percentage is not in the equation.
It's not surprising that you might inadvertently leave someone off the list. But the player you left off --Francisco Sanchez Ruiz--somehow is always the one. Ruiz has outperformed Van Boening, Filler, and Shaw for the last two years. And look at these results from more than 4 years ago when I searched posts by me that contain "Ruiz." This is sufficiently long ago that I was claiming Filler gets inadequate attention...
Everybody on your list except for Shaw and Feijen is signed up for Pro Billiard Series events 2 or 3
Yup, a hard-to-believe oversight. Obviously, I knew the Ruiz is one of the game's most elite. and has been for quite a while. He is not below my radar --- it was just a mistake.
Thanks for sharing the entries with me. This is wonderful news and bodes well for the continuing development of the best new series in American pool in many years.
Maybe this is too much to ask for, but can they have one of these events in New York City?
I'd be fine with that event name if that's the cost of having the event here. Still, I'm not too optimistic, largely due to a chat I once had with Pat Fleming on the subject of how much more it costs to produce a pool event in NYC than in other cities.Call it the 'Lockdown Classic'.Just kiddin.
Shane would probably be more upset if he broke his favorite fishing rod,,, or any fishing rod.
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Think this Fargo thing is dumb, Pool has enough handicaps already.
So a guy who is World Class Bank Pool Champion, should not be compared to some one who is 24/1, or One Pocket king.
Who be like comparing baseball, and football players.
Two different games, two different set of skill required.
So a guy who is World Class Bank Pool Champion, should not be compared to some one who is 24/1, or One Pocket king.
Who be like comparing baseball, and football players.
Two different games, two different set of skill required.
one pocket and banks are not included, to my knowledge. i think barbox is included though.
I remember when Pool was not handicapped, getting your butt kicked was not excuse.
One an excuse to work on being better.
Best player in most sport work it like full time job, 40 hours or more per week.
I don't buy it, they say they don't care but all of them have
egos as big as an elephant. Who does not want to be NUMBER ONE
even if there is no money attached.
Shane chases titles and cash. He lets the points fall where they may. He's far more concerned with catching a huge laker than worrying about Fargo points.