Shane's racking "trick"

I don't care about the shot clock anymore.

I want a racking clock. It's getting ridiculous when it can take guys 5 minutes to rack every time. Better yet, get a ref to rack and the players can't even look at the rack. STFU and break.

I'll second this.
 
Now the question is why Shane cannot win anything at all outside the US? Is it because its only in the US that rack your own is allowed in formal tournaments? Shane is a world class level player now with his accomplishments, imagine having won 3 US Open within 7 years which is really great. However, his accomplishments begs the question why he can't win even one major tournament outside the US since forever. Its not that his not joining because he is always there in the Japan, China, Philippine Open, and the WPA World Championships. Does the whole world need to adjust to rack your own to accommodate Shane to win something?
 
There are plenty of tournaments in the States that are formatted to prevent this, some with magic racks, and some with your opponent racking for you. Shane's won these, because usually he is the best player in the field. There are very few world tournaments each year, and they're filled with world-beaters, and he generally places well. Not many players have a bunch of world titles, everyone is fortunate to win one. Most players expect Shane to get his soon.
 
So the way I rack for myself actually wouldn't be "wrong" then. I don't move balls out of place. If you use a triangle, there will be gaps. What I do with 9 ball is rack the balls until the gaps are sitting such that all I have to do is roll a ball or two INTO the rack and freeze them--usually one of the balls on the second row and one on the fourth row. I never roll balls out of place to create spaces. The gaps are already there. I selectively freeze certain balls and close existing gaps.

If I'm racking for my opponent my focus is giving them a good tight rack and freezing the fourth row to the 9 to help eliminate a 9 on the break.

I'm not trying to set any more huge arguments in motion but I'm curious, now that I've explained how I rack do you still think that's cheating or immoral in some way?

I'm only asking because I'm genuinely floored by how many people think you shouldn't be allowed to touch the rack. It could just as easily go the other way too, you know. If I'm racking for my opponent and he doesn't want me touching the balls after the rack is lifted, he might get some slugs. Then he would probably blame me for that too, lol.

Correct....if you are truely trying to get the tightest rack possible, then kudos to you. If you are intentionally creating gaps to give yourself an advantage, then you can suck mud! LOL! :lmao:
 
I can't take anybody seriously if they believe Shane's 10 Ball break is so good because he is cheating.

He has one of, if not the best 10 ball break in the world. It has NOTHING to do with gaps in the rack!

If you believe this like I do, then wouldn't you think he would have a pretty good 9 ball break too?
 
I can believe Niels here. After SVB tried to steal a game and the match from J. Morra 2 years ago, I don't put anything past SVB anymore.

You mean this http://www.onepocket.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6307 ? or another different event?
:D

Actually Shane only tried to steal game 2, not the whole match:p. He's not that much of a thief.:grin:

Nobody on this forum has ever started a thread pointing out Shane's dishonest ways (in the Bank game) and they would be attacked if they did.

ONB
 
Just watched the corner ball go despite 9 on the spot. Orcollo break they both are doing the back ball loose. My opinion of the final!

KD
 
It is not unheard of for a pro to practice his break for 5 hours in one day. I am honestly surprised its not more than that. When my pool instructor was a pro he said that 12 hours of table time is a light day. Practice makes perfect and in a game of infinite possibilities and countless variables, you have to put in that much time to be the best.
 
I can believe Niels here. After SVB tried to steal a game and the match from J. Morra 2 years ago, I don't put anything past SVB anymore.

You mean this http://www.onepocket.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6307 ? or another different event?
:D

Actually Shane only tried to steal game 2, not the whole match:p. He's not that much of a thief.:grin:

Nobody on this forum has ever started a thread pointing out Shane's dishonest ways (in the Bank game) and they would be attacked if they did.

ONB

More on the topic from "over there". http://www.onepocket.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6781

ONB
 
I can't take anybody seriously if they believe Shane's 10 Ball break is so good because he is cheating.

He has one of, if not the best 10 ball break in the world. It has NOTHING to do with gaps in the rack!

If you believe this like I do, then wouldn't you think he would have a pretty good 9 ball break too?

He squares up perfect on his approach, and hits .....thru the cueball as good as I've ever seen. Earl in the eighties was also another who played in this manner. Buddy, well he was always too close to his next shot to hit thru like shane or Earl :grin-square:
 
Wow!!! Now that the "trick" racking is out, will someone complain about him using 2 bridges to make a jump shot???????????? The boy is soooooo smooth!!
 
What's wrong with pool is the fans. Just look at this thread! Most of those commenting don't have a clue what they are talking about. They don't even believe the wing ball can be made without a bad rack with the 9 on the spot! Yet, they are quick to say that SVB is cheating!

Just why do you think SVB spends so much time practicing his break? He doesn't want any gaps in the rack anywhere! He wants a consistent tight rack. That is where his break shines! Most of you don't even understand what hitting the head ball just a hair off center will do to the spread of the balls. IT CHANGES IT! So will adjusting your speed a hair. It's the combination of those two things that SVB studies! He also knows that breaking from near center line of the table, the 9 can consistently be headed up to the far corner pocket. The problem with that is, if it doesn't go in, most likely nothing else will either. So, he doesn't go for the 9. Instead, he has perfected how to change the spread of the balls by the hit and the speed. Thereby making the wingball reliably.

SVB's break is the result of countless hours of dedicated practice and really, really, paying attention to details. It's really a shame that when someone dedicates themselves to perfection, so many that are too lazy to do the same will accuse that person of cheating. They did it will Duel, and now are doing it with Shane.

You wonder why Duel doesn't play more, why he doesn't seem that interested anymore. You have no one to blame than yourselves! Here's a guy that is a pool genius, studied the game intensely, learned a way to break that gives you what you want to happen on the break, and you all cry and make it illegal!

Absolutely amazing how so many knock the true geniuses of the game! All out of sheer laziness on their part, because they don't want to work hard to perfect anything! They did it with Earl, Hal, Stan, Ron, Cory, and now Shane and Mike.

What's wrong with pool? look in a mirror!
 
Lots of Shane haters in here. The first person I saw on the stream performing illegal racking was Mica. He was pounding and moving the cloth on the left side of rack to loosen the balls. I've seen him do it plenty times before. The sad part was the announcer said he was checking for tightness of the rack. So how they can't tell that by looking??? and or how many times do they need to pound.
 
What's wrong with pool is the fans. Just look at this thread! Most of those commenting don't have a clue what they are talking about. They don't even believe the wing ball can be made without a bad rack with the 9 on the spot! Yet, they are quick to say that SVB is cheating!

Just why do you think SVB spends so much time practicing his break? He doesn't want any gaps in the rack anywhere! He wants a consistent tight rack. That is where his break shines! Most of you don't even understand what hitting the head ball just a hair off center will do to the spread of the balls. IT CHANGES IT! So will adjusting your speed a hair. It's the combination of those two things that SVB studies! He also knows that breaking from near center line of the table, the 9 can consistently be headed up to the far corner pocket. The problem with that is, if it doesn't go in, most likely nothing else will either. So, he doesn't go for the 9. Instead, he has perfected how to change the spread of the balls by the hit and the speed. Thereby making the wingball reliably.

SVB's break is the result of countless hours of dedicated practice and really, really, paying attention to details. It's really a shame that when someone dedicates themselves to perfection, so many that are too lazy to do the same will accuse that person of cheating. They did it will Duel, and now are doing it with Shane.

You wonder why Duel doesn't play more, why he doesn't seem that interested anymore. You have no one to blame than yourselves! Here's a guy that is a pool genius, studied the game intensely, learned a way to break that gives you what you want to happen on the break, and you all cry and make it illegal!

Absolutely amazing how so many knock the true geniuses of the game! All out of sheer laziness on their part, because they don't want to work hard to perfect anything! They did it with Earl, Hal, Stan, Ron, Cory, and now Shane and Mike.

What's wrong with pool? look in a mirror!

Get Joe Tuckers book and video called racking secrets part one and two then comment please. If you have not read the book and KNOW the content you are behind the learning curve.

The Genius is Joe Tucker and Corey Dueul that started the trend in 9 ball breaking.

Members make comments that are informed and to the benefit of those less knowledgeable to only be told they are "Hating" on SVB. Please give me a break!

KD
 
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